Che Murdered a Kid?

[Red Menace]

I heard somewhere that when Che was about to execute a prisoner that the son of the prisoner went to stop che and che shot him in the head. he was about 12 years old. is this true??

[Wiesty]

che wasnt the executor at la cabana, he was the prosecutor

[Janus]

I'm not too sure about the incident but it's always emphasized by the Cuban exiles in order to portray Che as a monster and cold-blooded murderer (puppy killing). I think CHe did order the execution and you have to take into account that it was kind of typical for military units.

[Red Axis]

There is nothing wrong with defending yourself, and that is what El Che was doing.

[Wiesty]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 09:35 PM
I'm not too sure about the incident but it's always emphasized by the Cuban exiles in order to portray Che as a monster and cold-blooded murderer (puppy killing). I think CHe did order the execution and you have to take into account that it was kind of typical for military units.
i find that funny, how che kills some people, no big deal

but CHE KILLS A DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH NO

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2006, 12:35 AM
I heard somewhere that when Che was about to execute a prisoner that the son of the prisoner went to stop che and che shot him in the head. he was about 12 years old. is this true??
Yeah he did. And then he cackled and cooked the child's carcass in a large cauldron

[Samuel]

Originally posted by Rage Against The Machine+Apr 30 2006, 09:41 AM--> (Rage Against The Machine @ Apr 30 2006, 09:41 AM)
[email protected] 30 2006, 12:35 AM
I heard somewhere that when Che was about to execute a prisoner that the son of the prisoner went to stop che and che shot him in the head. he was about 12 years old. is this true??
Yeah he did. And then he cackled and cooked the child's carcass in a large cauldron [/b]
and thus the hidden witche's brew of the Oriente was created! Ledgend has it, that the finder of the cauldron will become so powerful, he will be able to realize how wrong he is and will join the leftist cause!

[Red Menace]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 30 2006, 06:40 AM
There is nothing wrong with defending yourself, and that is what El Che was doing.
he was defending himself from a 12 year old??

[Wiesty]

lol

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by Defy+Apr 30 2006, 11:19 PM--> (Defy @ Apr 30 2006, 11:19 PM)
Red [email protected] 30 2006, 06:40 AM
There is nothing wrong with defending yourself, and that is what El Che was doing.
he was defending himself from a 12 year old?? [/b]
Hey man, that twelve-year old was frickin' huge! I mean man, this guy musta been at least 9 foot tall, would weighed about 20 stone or somethin'! - Seriously man, ya should seen this mutherfucker, what size was it Paulie?

*nudges Paulie, who is in a drunken stupor*

How big was it Paulie, tell the guy was this kid not frickin huge?

Paulie (wiping drool away from face, mumbles incoherently): Yeah huge, big big thing it was...yeah...

*collapses off bar stool*

Yeah, true story

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by Defy+Apr 30 2006, 05:19 PM--> (Defy @ Apr 30 2006, 05:19 PM)
Red [email protected] 30 2006, 06:40 AM
There is nothing wrong with defending yourself, and that is what El Che was doing.
he was defending himself from a 12 year old?? [/b]
Isnt that a bit ageist? 12 year olds can be as dangerous as someone considerably older.

[bezdomni]

The story is probably bullshit.

[Red Menace]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2006, 08:09 PM
The story is probably bullshit.
I know, it probably is, I was just wondering if you guys ever heard of this. If I can find the link where I saw it from, I will post it up.

[Brekisonphilous]

Originally posted by Wiesty+Apr 30 2006, 02:16 PM--> (Wiesty @ Apr 30 2006, 02:16 PM)
[email protected] 29 2006, 09:35 PM
I'm not too sure about the incident but it's always emphasized by the Cuban exiles in order to portray Che as a monster and cold-blooded murderer (puppy killing). I think CHe did order the execution and you have to take into account that it was kind of typical for military units.
i find that funny, how che kills some people, no big deal

but CHE KILLS A DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH NO [/b]
well the way I look at it, puppies are a lot more defenseless than people. For me it puts a dent in the persons character because obviously they have no respect for life.

[Wiesty]

true, a dog is less defencless, but a Human life should be valued more than that of a dog
not that i have anything against dogs....i have 3.....

[Wanted Man]

It is a fictional story made up by the libertarian exile swine Humberto Fontova, who, if I'm not mistaken, currently lives in New Orleans(if only Katrina killed him...). He supposedly heard the story from one "Pierre San Martin", but a google search for that name only yields mirrors of Fontova's article. Fontova's articles appear on such "prestigious" websites as Lewrockwell and FrontPageMag. For those who are still interested, here is one of his BS articles from the libertarian rag Lewrockwell.com:


A Cuban gentleman named Pierre San Martin was also among those jailed by the gallant Che. A few years ago he recalled the horrors in a El Nuevo Herald article. "32 of us were crammed into a cell" he recalls. "16 of us would stand while the other sixteen tried to sleep on the cold filthy floor. We took shifts that way. Actually, we considered ourselves lucky. After all, we were alive. Dozens were led from the cells to the firing squad daily. The volleys kept us awake. We felt that any one of those minutes would be our last."

"One morning the horrible sound of that rusty steel door swinging open startled us awake and Che's guards shoved a new prisoner into our cell. His face was bruised and smeared with blood. We could only gape. He was a boy, couldn't have been much older than 12, maybe 14.

"What did you do?" We asked horrified. "I tried to defend my papa," gasped the bloodied boy. "I tried to keep these Communist sons of b**tches from murdering him! But they sent him to the firing squad."

Soon Che's goons came back, the rusty steel door opened and they yanked the valiant boy out of the cell. "We all rushed to the cell's window that faced the execution pit, " recalls Mr San Martin. "We simply couldn't believe they'd murder him!"

"Then we spotted him, strutting around the blood-drenched execution yard with his hands on his waist and barking orders – the gallant Che Guevara." Here Che was finally in his element. In battle he was a sad joke, a bumbler of epic proportions (for details see Fidel; Hollywood's Favorite Tyrant). But up against disarmed and bloodied boys he was a snarling tiger.

"Kneel Down!" Che barked at the boy.

"ASSASSINS!" We screamed for our window. "MURDERERS!! HOW CAN YOU MURDER A LITTLE BOY!"

" I said: KNEEL DOWN!" Che barked again.

The boy stared Che resolutely in the face. "If you're going to kill me," he yelled. "you'll have to do it while I'm standing! MEN die standing!"

" COWARDS! – MURDERERS!..Sons of B**TCHES!" The men yelled desperately from their cells. "LEAVE HIM ALONE!" HOW CAN...?! "And then we saw Che unholstering his pistol. It didn't seem possible. But Che raised his pistol, put the barrel to the back of the boys neck and blasted. The shot almost decapitated the young boy.

"We erupted. We were enraged, hysterical, banging on the bars. "MURDERERS! – ASSASSINS!" His murder finished, Che finally looked up at us, pointed his pistol, and BLAM!-BLAM-BLAM! emptied his clip in our direction. Several of us were wounded by his shots."

To a man (and boy) Che's murder victims went down in a blaze of defiance and glory. So let's recall Che's own plea when the wheels of justice finally turned and he was cornered in Bolivia. "Don't Shoot!" he whimpered. "I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!"

This swinish and murdering coward, this child-killer, was the toast of the Oscars.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/fontova/fontova44.html

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Bullshit as usual... you get used to it ;)

[Vladislav]

"Kneel Down!" Che barked at the boy.

"ASSASSINS!" We screamed for our window. "MURDERERS!! HOW CAN YOU MURDER A LITTLE BOY!"

" I said: KNEEL DOWN!" Che barked again.

The boy stared Che resolutely in the face. "If you're going to kill me," he yelled. "you'll have to do it while I'm standing! MEN die standing!"

" COWARDS! – MURDERERS!..Sons of B**TCHES!" The men yelled desperately from their cells. "LEAVE HIM ALONE!" HOW CAN...?! "And then we saw Che unholstering his pistol. It didn't seem possible. But Che raised his pistol, put the barrel to the back of the boys neck and blasted. The shot almost decapitated the young boy.

"We erupted. We were enraged, hysterical, banging on the bars. "MURDERERS! – ASSASSINS!" His murder finished, Che finally looked up at us, pointed his pistol, and BLAM!-BLAM-BLAM! emptied his clip in our direction. Several of us were wounded by his shots."

To a man (and boy) Che's murder victims went down in a blaze of defiance and glory. So let's recall Che's own plea when the wheels of justice finally turned and he was cornered in Bolivia. "Don't Shoot!" he whimpered. "I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!"

This swinish and murdering coward, this child-killer, was the toast of the Oscars.

Oh my goodness.How overdone is this?I give it 10/10 for bullshit. This guy's just pulling shit outta his ass as he goes along.It's like from a fiction book and not a real life story. Sorry I give this an F.An F for Fucked up.

Sorry for coarse language.

[Wanted Man]

Yes. For all his *****ing about Hollywood and Oscars, he sure does place a great importance on action movie-like scenes.

[Wiesty]

Hmmm, that whole thing about Dieing standing, im pretty sure happened to che. It seems that Dramatic scene is a collective of some sort. If only Ghandi would fly down and save the innocent children from the Evil Scylla that is Che

[Wanted Man]

No way man, Gandhi regularly ate babies. But of course you couldn't have known that, what with evil peoples like Hollywood and CNN, who obviously have a hidden communist agenda, trying to glorify that evil mass murderer. :rolleyes:

[Big Boss]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2006, 09:03 PM
Isnt that a bit ageist? 12 year olds can be as dangerous as someone considerably older.
I know, but we have to realize that the story is a big lie and this never actually took place.

[CLOCKWORK ORANGE]

Originally posted by Big Boss+May 10 2006, 02:45 PM--> (Big Boss @ May 10 2006, 02:45 PM)
[email protected] 30 2006, 09:03 PM
Isnt that a bit ageist? 12 year olds can be as dangerous as someone considerably older.
I know, but we have to realize that the story is a big lie and this never actually took place. [/b]
Yet there is no evidence against it, or for it <_<

[BOZG]

Regardless of truth of this story, executions are sometimes necessary, regardless of age.

The execution of the entire Romanov family in Soviet Russia was an absolutely necessary step.

[Red Menace]

This isn&#39;t a link that I said I would find (haven&#39;t been able to find it yet) but I think a good portion of them are talking shit about Che. what a disgrace :angry:

http://www.tomgpalmer.com/archives/015527.php

[Janus]

The details are quite sketchy and overdramatized which leads it to being bery suspicious and probably a lie.

[El Sueco]

J.L. Anderson accounts for this incident. The kid was part of a gang of bandits who had stolen the rebel army&#39;s supplies and cattle from others. The tribunal sentenced them to death, although Che had his doubts about the kid. But he was executed, not by Che personally, but still executed. He died "with his boots on", however, and agreed himself it was justice.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

It was a revolution, they were trying to destroy the old regime to ensure the survival of their own. You wanna make stew, you gotta chop meat. Even if this story is true, and I&#39;m not saying it is, I fail to see what the big deal is. It was an armed revolution. In armed revolution, people sometimes die. Deal with it. For the greater good.

[CubaSocialista]

Originally posted by Samuel+Apr 30 2006, 03:05 PM--> (Samuel @ Apr 30 2006, 03:05 PM)
Originally posted by Rage Against The [email protected] 30 2006, 09:41 AM

[email protected] 30 2006, 12:35 AM
I heard somewhere that when Che was about to execute a prisoner that the son of the prisoner went to stop che and che shot him in the head. he was about 12 years old. is this true??
Yeah he did. And then he cackled and cooked the child&#39;s carcass in a large cauldron
and thus the hidden witche&#39;s brew of the Oriente was created&#33; Ledgend has it, that the finder of the cauldron will become so powerful, he will be able to realize how wrong he is and will join the leftist cause&#33; [/b]
You forgot to mention that Che, while cackling and boiling corpses of children, also assembled robot armies constructed from the bones of puppies to be the killer enforcers of his evil world domination order.

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 06:38 AM
This isn&#39;t a link that I said I would find (haven&#39;t been able to find it yet) but I think a good portion of them are talking shit about Che. what a disgrace :angry:

http://www.tomgpalmer.com/archives/015527.php
Haha, another libertarian.

http://www.tomgpalmer.com/index.php