One of the Worst Arguments for Theism Ever

[RevMARKSman]

Google video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5479410612081345878)

You absolutely MUST WATCH the 3.30-4.30 mark. Cherrypicking ho!
:lol:


Yes, this is a bit hypocritical as I am a theist, but that 3.30-4.30 part is too funny to miss.

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

That banana part! Lol

To summarize their argument, which is attempting to suggest that atheists are actually agnostics, goes like this:

First an atheist must have absolute knowledge of everything ever, the must be omnipotent.

Secondly, that if it’s reasonable to assume a car had a maker, and then it’s reasonable to assume people have a maker. They pose the argument saying, is it logical to think that your car had no maker? Then they say, why you think that a car has a maker but the world doesn’t.

I am going to show this to my Christian flat mate, in an attempt to get him to distance himself from religion, it’s really that embarrassing.

They also talk about how the Ten Commandments, and through a series of question get people to admit to being thieves, liars and god damned blasphemers.

The worst part about it is, they interview students, well it looks like they a filming on a University campus. Shame they didn’t try one of the lecturers, or maybe they have to pray on people who are still quite easily influenced.

[RevMARKSman]

It almost reminds me of a Monty Python skit...
"How do you stop a man attacking you with a banana? Well, first, you force him to drop the banana...thus, disarming him. Then, you eat the banana. Now come at me with the banana." <BANG&#33;> "Then, I eat the banana." <exaggerated peeling of banana>


:D

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2006, 10:46 AM
Google video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5479410612081345878)

You absolutely MUST WATCH the 3.30-4.30 mark. Cherrypicking ho&#33;
:lol:


Yes, this is a bit hypocritical as I am a theist, but that 3.30-4.30 part is too funny to miss.
I actually knew this "argument" already but with different "details". It&#39;s truly lame...the banana is "curved" so that it&#39;s easier for us to eat it? LOL&#33; Plus the bananas we eat and wild ones are different as far as I know.

And by the way, they quoted Darwin out of context.

[amanondeathrow]

And by the way, they quoted Darwin out of context.

Do you have any more details on that, because one of my "friends" loves to use that quote to support intelligent design.

[Oh-Dae-Su]

:lol: WTF

this is the most ridiculous thing ever, matter does evolve out of "nothing" obviously they don&#39;t know this....and they talk about proof&#33; what more proof do you need than remains of neanderthal or homo erechtus that are the obvious proven signs of evolution, what about dinosaurs? the banana thing is ridiculous, how many things can&#39;t i fit perfectly in my hand&#33;?? :rolleyes:

[ColinH]

"The Way of The Master" sounds like a &#39;70s martial arts flick. Upon closer study however, it sounds like a load of shit.

[JazzRemington]

The part of teh eye is ridiculous. Scientists have a rather sound theory (from what I can understand) of how the eye may have evolved.

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by Dee&#39;s Nuts+Apr 27 2006, 10:49 PM--> (Dee&#39;s Nuts @ Apr 27 2006, 10:49 PM)
And by the way, they quoted Darwin out of context.

Do you have any more details on that, because one of my "friends" loves to use that quote to support intelligent design. [/b]

Charles [email protected] "The Origins Of The Species", Ch. 6
Organs of extreme perfection and complication. To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest possible degree. Yet reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a perfect and complex eye to one very imperfect and simple, each grade being useful to its possessor, can be shown to exist; if further, the eye does vary ever so slightly, and the variations be inherited, which is certainly the case; and if any variation or modification in the organ be ever useful to an animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, can hardly be considered real. How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself first originated; but I may remark that several facts make me suspect that any sensitive nerve may be rendered sensitive to light, and likewise to those coarser vibrations of the air which produce sound.

(emphasis added)

http://www.literature.org/authors/darwin-c...chapter-06.html (http://www.literature.org/authors/darwin-charles/the-origin-of-species/chapter-06.html)

Tell your friend he got owned.

[amanondeathrow]

Thanks alot El Infiltr(A)do, thats a big help.

[Oh-Dae-Su]

The Way of the Master hahahah yeah sounds like a Jackie Chan movie :lol: lol

and seriously what the hell was up with the "eye", they kept refering to this crap over and over again i merely paid attention to it, "concider the human eye bla bla bla"..umm ok? :blink:

and their main argument is that a building has a builder because it is perfectly planned or whatever, well than i guess "GOD" has a builder too?? HUH&#33;? since everything has a creator, than i guess god had to have a creator too since they say it&#39;s common sense to know that things don&#39;t actually pop out of the blue?&#33; :rolleyes:

[Publius]

Shit guys, I&#39;m convinced.

The banana was obviously created by God.

End of story.

[Publius]

I&#39;ve always wanted to be on one of these shows because I would fuck them up.

How many grains of sand are there? 18,995,599,699,599,019 grains of sand, smartass.

And then when he says I&#39;m wrong, I ask him to prove it.

Would I consider myself to be a good person? No. "I&#39;ve killed a few people, does that count"?

Face God on judgement day&#33;? I&#39;ll that fucker&#39;s ass&#33;

They&#39;ll think I&#39;m the anti-Christ after 30 seconds; I have that effect on theists.

[Fistful of Steel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 09:04 PM
I&#39;ve always wanted to be on one of these shows because I would fuck them up.

How many grains of sand are there? 18,995,599,699,599,019 grains of sand, smartass.

And then when he says I&#39;m wrong, I ask him to prove it.

Would I consider myself to be a good person? No. "I&#39;ve killed a few people, does that count"?

Face God on judgement day&#33;? I&#39;ll that fucker&#39;s ass&#33;

They&#39;ll think I&#39;m the anti-Christ after 30 seconds; I have that effect on theists.
I&#39;d have to say that&#39;d be very amusing to see.

[Publius]

I&#39;d have to say that&#39;d be very amusing to see.

Damn right it would.

I would embarass them.

I&#39;d thank God for &#39;Intelligently Designing&#39; AIDS and for killing my mother (Not true, I would just love to see the look on their face when they hear it.)

&#39;Research the BIble&#39;? Like the Exodus? 60,000 Jews travelling for 40 years in the desert and not a single piece of evidence?

I&#39;d tear their sophistries apart so fast it would scare them shitless.

How well a person is designed? Like their appendix? Their backwards installed eyes? THeir goosebumps that fluff up fur we don&#39;t have anymore? That design?

I&#39;d also like to tell them that I personally killed God but I think that would end the conversation right there.

:(

If any evangelist comes up to me in an attempt to waste my time, I&#39;ll show them no mercy.

[Publius]

And my personal favorite argument against God is this:

"How do you know God doesn&#39;t exist?" says the dumbass Christian

"God told me he doesn&#39;t exist", I, the witty atheist, say.

"..." the theist&#39;s incorporealescence.

If they point out the contradiction, just tell them that there&#39;s no contradiction: God is all-powerful so he can make himself not exist, and he did.

There&#39;s no possible way they can refute you because you&#39;re using claims THEY accept, namely God&#39;s power and arguing illogically.

[amanondeathrow]

Yeah, its like that question can god creat a stone so heavy that he himself cannot lift?

[Publius]

Yeah, its like that question can god creat a stone so heavy that he himself cannot lift?

Same basic thing, yes.

If God is all-powerful, can me make himself not exist.

[Goatse]

I love you, Publius. Expect the capitalism thing.

[Oh-Dae-Su]

:lol: LMAO, no no seriously but the funniest thing is when he is trying to mack into that hot ass chick in the end, hahahaha he is like "ohh my heart is broken because i want you to see the truth", shes like "umm yeah ok" .... :lol: