Freedom to travel in a communistic society?

[A Man of no Nation]

Now, I know asking a question and learning is never stupid. But I truly think this question is a waste of your time. But I am curious about something.

I do not have a home. I roam the world with a backpack, live in a city for months at a time, work, sleep on people's floors, use their internet and move on. In other words I am a backpacker who doesn't really have a home and improvises. I live to travel, meet people and see the world.

I have an anarchismo mindset and greatly appreciate communism. But if I was born or lived in a communistic society, would I be free to leave when I pleased and for long periods of time with the intent of returning?

I know communism is all about helping eachother to make society a better place to live...not for some but for everyone who dedicates thier lives to help eachother. The socialist man is one who does not care of money, but knows he is helping his fellow man. But would it be ok for me to leave the society, see new places (for possibly years at a time) and eventually return to the communistic society? Because, by me leaving, I am not helping the society grow and selfishly doing whatever I want without contribution to the cause. Sure, I could teach communism abroad, but I am still not apart of the cause anymore.

For example, being a member of a revolutionary cause is not an on and off thing. You cannot be a member of the Zapatistas one day and then decide you want to visit France the next day. Communism is pure dedication to good of humanity. But by traveling, I am not necesarily doing my part to make society a better place.

Sorry for the question. There is probably a simple answer.

Thanks and never stop exploring

-a man of no nation

[FinnMacCool]

It depends on what the centralized government decides. . .

Most likely know though because you would have to support their glorious "revolution" even if it means you die of starvation.

[Everyday Anarchy]

Sure you can travel as you wish. Ask yourself, who's going to stop you?
It's not like it's going to against the law or that secret police will abduct you and bring you back.


But by traveling, I am not necesarily doing my part to make society a better place.
Sure you are! You said yourself that you work every now and then. Also, by meeting and talking to complete strangers, you're breaking down the social barriers formed by Capitalism.

Never say that you aren't contributing to society. "Doing your part" doesn't mean having a "job."


Edit:

It depends on what the centralized government decides. . .
Excuse me?

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Perhaps you could be a diplomat, or a spy! Or maybe just a vactioner.

[which doctor]

If you ask me staying in one place for longer than a year is monotonous. I want to travel around too. However capitalism impedes this for the typical worker.

You would be able to travel freely in a communistic society.

[LSD]

But would it be ok for me to leave the society, see new places (for possibly years at a time) and eventually return to the communistic society?

Absolutely.

All production in communism is voluntary. No one will "force" you to stay anywhere or "coerce" you to do anything you don't want to.

If you leave, you will not longer be a part of production, but will also no longer be consuming societal resources, so it balances out. That's the fundamentally homeostatic nature of communistic economics. Usage is not "predicated" on contribution, but effectively, they go hand in hand.

If you want to leave for months or even years, that is your absolute complete inalienable right; and no communist society would attempt to tell you otherwise.


For example, being a member of a revolutionary cause is not an on and off thing. You cannot be a member of the Zapatistas one day and then decide you want to visit France the next day.

True enough, but the life in a revolution is not the same as life after.

The reason for the revolution, after all, is to build a better society. Accordingly, while being a revolutionary fighters is difficult, dangerous, and very often "monotonous", the same cannot be said for the world that he strives to create.

[Cult of Reason]

I also think it depends on when in a Communist society it is. After a certain period of time, I would expect that all production and distribution would be automated anyway.

[BattleOfTheCowshed]

Dude, the question is moot. Under communism/anarchism there wont be anyone to tell you whether or not you are "allowed" to travel, it'll all be up to you. Since national border/boundaries will be destroyed, and general wealth will increase, it seems likely that travel will become far easier and the amount of humans who adopt some kind of neo-Nomadic lifestyle may increase.

[VermontLeft]

yeah exactly.

thats why were fighting for communism. cause its a classless and stateless and society and therell be no one to tell us what to do with our own bodies.

so if you want to go off and live in the woods or visit france or korea or whatever, no one woud stop you or, like people said, even have the power to stop you even if they wanted to! :o

like LSD said, production is voluntary so you can do what you fucking want! ;)

[Alexknucklehead]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 06:16 AM
and general wealth will increase
What wealth?

;)

[Ricardo]

how will travelers be able to eat, i thought that you only get food and supplies if you work or are unable to work

probably wrong though

[BattleOfTheCowshed]

Originally posted by Alexknucklehead+Apr 29 2006, 10:18 PM--> (Alexknucklehead @ Apr 29 2006, 10:18 PM)
[email protected] 29 2006, 06:16 AM
and general wealth will increase
What wealth?

;) [/b]
By wealth I dont mean luxury or decadence. I simply mean the general lifestyle that society and nature can provide to an egalitarian population of humans. That level depends on technological advancement.

[BattleOfTheCowshed]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2006, 03:05 PM
how will travelers be able to eat, i thought that you only get food and supplies if you work or are unable to work

probably wrong though
Nope, thats wrong. Under Communism/Anarchism, wealth is redistributed by society in an egalitarian manner regardless of contribution. As such it is the dissolution of class society as a whole.