For when Maggie dies

[Angry Young Man]

Now, as you well know, our beloved (!) former PM is getting on in years. Now, being born in Yorkshire, my old man was only too eager to tell me of how she ruined British industry. I have heard rumours that my sister's boyfriend (also a comrade) has, with friends, had the idea of organising a party all along the A1 road. I said to him "what about the poor people in Lancashire and the Mining areas of South Wales and Scotland celebrate, what with the trains being extotionate mow they're owned by barons!"
Does anyone have a better idea of how to throw a party to celebrate? You all know how happy the people are to be rid of tyrants!

[bolshevik butcher]

Well apparently the Anarchists are inviting all leftists down to trafalgar sqr.

[WeOnlyWantTheEarth]

^true that,I've a postcard for that on my wall upstairs "The Saturday after she dies,bring a bottle and friends". I would like there to a healthy Irish contingent there, but I don't think I'd make it sadly!

To think the IRA nearly blew her up on the toilet seat once...would have been more than fitting.

So I'll wear no convict's uniform,
Nor meekly serve my time,
That Britain might brand Ireland's fight,
Eight hundred years of crime

[England Expects]

If you realy want to celebrate when that woman (or anyone) dies then you are one seriously sick person :angry:

[RebelOutcast]

Well I'm assuming you're an english patriot, so you're an opposing ideologue, you will be restricted shortly.
What Margret Thatcher did to this country was sick, she put millions of ordinary, every day people out of work by stopping large amounts of industry and nearly destroyed the economy.
It'll be fun celebrating her death.

[WeOnlyWantTheEarth]

Her treatment of the Miners on strike was disgusting,she set out to reduce the power of trade unions. In the end,all she did was make them stronger as people however, if Trade-Unionism could survive Thatcher, it will live on forever!


I am extraordinarily patient, provided I get my own way in the end.
She proved that one alright...


" Denis Thatcher will become Lord Mayor, Mark Thatcher will set the rates,
Margaret Thatcher will become the Queen when the Queen she abdicates,
She'll have Cruise on Hyde Park Corner, plastic bullets in Southall,
The Paras back from Crossmaglen to protect Whitehall"
Christy Moore


http://i3.tinypic.com/w7zk1y.jpg

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by England [email protected] 22 2006, 09:45 PM
If you realy want to celebrate when that woman (or anyone) dies then you are one seriously sick person :angry:
dot get into moral crap. havent you heard of the is/ought gap: you cant make a factual claim ie. revleft will all get drunk and be merry like paddy's day in dublin and new years day in edinburgh wen margaret thatcher dies with a jump to we ought not to. thats just not philosophy.
anyway, coming from the north, ill probably return there to party in sheffield!
its morally ok to celebrate her death day if she wrecked the country. especially my neck ot' woods. thats it: EVERYONE AT REVLEFT, PARTY IN SHEFFIELD!!!! BYOB!!! BARBECUE! INVITE ALL UR MATES! im sure the natives of sheffy will only be too glad to act as host.

[England Expects]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2006, 10:10 PM
Well I'm assuming you're an english patriot, so you're an opposing ideologue, you will be restricted shortly.
What Margret Thatcher did to this country was sick, she put millions of ordinary, every day people out of work by stopping large amounts of industry and nearly destroyed the economy.
It'll be fun celebrating her death.
I'm neither English nor patriotic.

[England Expects]

Originally posted by chairmanmick+Apr 22 2006, 11:47 PM--> (chairmanmick @ Apr 22 2006, 11:47 PM)
England [email protected] 22 2006, 09:45 PM
If you realy want to celebrate when that woman (or anyone) dies then you are one seriously sick person :angry:
dot get into moral crap. havent you heard of the is/ought gap: you cant make a factual claim ie. revleft will all get drunk and be merry like paddy's day in dublin and new years day in edinburgh wen margaret thatcher dies with a jump to we ought not to. thats just not philosophy.
anyway, coming from the north, ill probably return there to party in sheffield!
its morally ok to celebrate her death day if she wrecked the country. especially my neck ot' woods. thats it: EVERYONE AT REVLEFT, PARTY IN SHEFFIELD!!!! BYOB!!! BARBECUE! INVITE ALL UR MATES! im sure the natives of sheffy will only be too glad to act as host. [/b]
I never said it was immoral, but I do think that it is sick.

What kind of a person can take pleasure from the death of another.

[RebelOutcast]

What kind of a person can take pleasure from the death of another.[sic]
Someone who believes that that person's death is something to celebrate, I.E. lots of people in wales, scotland and the north of england.

Anyway, what is the throwback to the imperialist, expansionist regime of yesteryear?
Do you worship nelson or something?

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2006, 08:09 PM
Does anyone have a better idea of how to throw a party to celebrate? You all know how happy the people are to be rid of tyrants!
Class War organised it

http://londonclasswar.org/images/Thatcher.jpg

if you can't make it, maybe ask Class War to borrow some cash? or ask what their members up north are doing, there's no reason there can't be loads of parties.

[Ian]

Is thatcher sick?

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by England [email protected] 23 2006, 07:02 AM
What kind of a person can take pleasure from the death of another.
Go to Yorkshire

[WeOnlyWantTheEarth]

http://i3.tinypic.com/w96tyw.jpg

"Fair play Mrs Thatcher sure you know a trick or two
and each time you come to Dublin well we know just what you'll do
you'll dress up in your finery and preach with all your might
but all of your fancy promise's are just a load of ---

We love you Mrs Thatcher like your old man loves his brew
such a lad your husband Denis when he's had a sup or two
sure he'll take a pint of porter and a glass of Irish mist
and because he faces you each night no wonder he gets ---"

:lol:

[England Expects]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 09:55 AM

What kind of a person can take pleasure from the death of another.[sic]
Someone who believes that that person's death is something to celebrate, I.E. lots of people in wales, scotland and the north of england..
Well, living in Scotland I can vouch for what a sick bunch they are.

[Cheung Mo]

Even whan Mrs. Thatcher was at her peak, 58% of Britons voted for parties to the left of her Tories. You're damn right that there will (and should be) a lot of celebrating when that fascist fuck dies...From her constant assault on the rights of workers, to that motherfucking poll tax, to her ultra-homophobic education and social policies, to that ridiculous war in Argentina...This woman was fucking crazy...She always pissed and moaned about how BRIAN FUCKING MULRONEY of all people was too left-wing. :D

Thatcher is a monument to how fucked up the Westminster System is and how people dumb enough to support it over more proportional methods don't deserve to cast ballots.

[Hegemonicretribution]

England Expects, you could view her death in one of three ways: You could be happy
You could be sad
You could be indifferent
Now mourning would not make a lot of sense, because lets face it, not may of us were personally acquainted, and fewer would care. Also there is now need for some crappy pseudo-religious view of death, it is a fact of existence, there is no need to treat it as special.

Being indifferent would be fine, because it won't really make that much difference, and there isn't too much reason to feel otherwise.

Celebrating her death; well that is what some cultures do when people die, so a Eurocentric view of death as a tragic event is perhaps a little inadequate. In this instance though it is suggested that we celebrate her death because of the attrocities she committed in life, and I suppose I would be for that. If a modern day Hittler or Pol Pot were to "pop their clogs" would you not feel a slight bit of satisfaction? At least on behalf of the millions that suffered? I think that it would be a little indecent to not be glad that they are dead, than to be glad they are.

Remember, it is not really the death of the individual on a personal level that we celebrate, we simply cannot know, it is the ideas that she stood for. Thatcherism was a plague of the latter 20th century in Britain, and as one of "Thatcher&#39;s children <_< :angry:" I would see this as no great shame.

[WeOnlyWantTheEarth]

I just had a look at the London Class War site,and they;ve gone to the trouble of putting parts of the site in Welsh and Irish&#33;

also,the stickers on the side are a nice addition, if my printer worked once in a while, I&#39;d put them to good use <_<

[RedAnarchist]

I&#39;m more or less the same age as Hegemonic, so luckily people of our generation were born towards the end of Thatcher&#39;s misrule. Even so, I will be just as ahppy as anyone older than me when she finally does die.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 03:33 PM
I just had a look at the London Class War site,and they;ve gone to the trouble of putting parts of the site in Welsh and Irish&#33;

also,the stickers on the side are a nice addition, if my printer worked once in a while, I&#39;d put them to good use <_<
I can post you some.

[WeOnlyWantTheEarth]

Originally posted by Additives Free+Apr 23 2006, 04:00 PM--> (Additives Free @ Apr 23 2006, 04:00 PM)
[email protected] 23 2006, 03:33 PM
I just had a look at the London Class War site,and they;ve gone to the trouble of putting parts of the site in Welsh and Irish&#33;

also,the stickers on the side are a nice addition, if my printer worked once in a while, I&#39;d put them to good use <_<
I can post you some. [/b]
really?Wow,thanks,that would be very much appreciated,and pretty nice of you :)

Only if you&#39;re sure...

[WeOnlyWantTheEarth]

few more pictures:

http://i3.tinypic.com/w9cz9t.jpg


http://i3.tinypic.com/w9czh2.jpg


http://i3.tinypic.com/w9cznk.jpg


Is thatcher sick?

Actually,thats a good question. Anyone know what her present state is?

[England Expects]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 03:16 PM
Remember, it is not really the death of the individual on a personal level that we celebrate, we simply cannot know, it is the ideas that she stood for. Thatcherism was a plague of the latter 20th century in Britain, and as one of "Thatcher&#39;s children <_< :angry:" I would see this as no great shame.
Sorry, I&#39;m trying to get through your garbled sentences. No offence intended.

If you are saying that it is a celebration of the death of the ideas that she represents then I&#39;m sorry to say that I don&#39;t think they are dead. The way I see things is that there is a cosy little Thatcherite consensus in British Politics.

If you are saying that it&#39;s ok to celebrate her death because of the ideas that she represented then I would say that would be counter productive. Dancing on graves is not a very good way to sell class consciousness, or leftism in general, to the unconvinced.

I tick the indifference box but still frown upon those who tick the happy box.

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by England Expects+Apr 23 2006, 04:48 PM--> (England Expects @ Apr 23 2006, 04:48 PM)
[email protected] 23 2006, 03:16 PM
Remember, it is not really the death of the individual on a personal level that we celebrate, we simply cannot know, it is the ideas that she stood for. Thatcherism was a plague of the latter 20th century in Britain, and as one of "Thatcher&#39;s children <_< :angry:" I would see this as no great shame.
Sorry, I&#39;m trying to get through your garbled sentences. No offence intended.

If you are saying that it is a celebration of the death of the ideas that she represents then I&#39;m sorry to say that I don&#39;t think they are dead. The way I see things is that there is a cosy little Thatcherite consensus in British Politics.

If you are saying that it&#39;s ok to celebrate her death because of the ideas that she represented then I would say that would be counter productive. Dancing on graves is not a very good way to sell class consciousness, or leftism in general, to the unconvinced.

I tick the indifference box but still frown upon those who tick the happy box. [/b]
It&#39;s an excuse to have a party in London. I personally hope she dies next year on my 18th birthday&#33; What a birthday, followed by a party in London&#33;
Any artists on this forum? I want paintings to commemorate the day, and if any of you do graffitti, we could find a Conservative club in somewhere like Kensington&#33;
Me being a musician, I&#39;ll probably bring my band and play a guerilla gig. Maybe I&#39;ll write a song&#33; Now the idea&#39;s mine. Nobody else can steal my idea&#33;

[Comrade J]

I look forward to this event. Ever since I was about 11 years old nad beginning to understand politics (I am now 17) me and my dad said we&#39;d go for a pint when she dies :D
So I&#39;ll be going out for a drink with my old man, and hopefully getting to this party in Trafalgar Square.

For those of us who live quite far from London, I seriously recommend using a Megabus to get there. I used it before from Manchester to London and back, it cost me £2 altogether. However, it might cost about £10-£20 if you book it for a near date (the longer you leave it, the more expensive it will be).

www.megabus.com

I will probably be on my own though, but I&#39;m sure it will be quite a social occasion and I&#39;ll find somebody to talk to :D

Lets hope she dies this year or the next.

[citizen_snips]

She was unwell a few months back, but recovered. But it&#39;ll happen, she hasn&#39;t been able to feast on the blood of the workers so much since she&#39;s been out of power, so she&#39;ll die off soon enough&#33;

I probably won&#39;t go to Trafalgar Square, it seems silly to go all the way there when there are bound to be plenty of decent parties going on up north of the border&#33;

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2006, 08:09 PM
Now, as you well know, our beloved (&#33;) former PM is getting on in years. Now, being born in Yorkshire, my old man was only too eager to tell me of how she ruined British industry. I have heard rumours that my sister&#39;s boyfriend (also a comrade) has, with friends, had the idea of organising a party all along the A1 road. I said to him "what about the poor people in Lancashire and the Mining areas of South Wales and Scotland celebrate, what with the trains being extotionate mow they&#39;re owned by barons&#33;"
Does anyone have a better idea of how to throw a party to celebrate? You all know how happy the people are to be rid of tyrants&#33;
I dont want her to die yet&#33; I hope she lives long enough to see the revolution so she can be finally punished for her crimes and be denied the state heroine funeral treatment she will no doubt get under the pro-beourgiouse government. Ive even worked out the method of her execution- Put her onto a plane full of mine workers, and when theyre over Buenos airies, chuck her out wearing a union-jack parachute so everyone below knows its her&#33; Lynch mob time&#33; :D

[citizen_snips]

Or just drop her down an abandoned mineshaft.

[RebelDog]

Maggie is better to die warm in her bed. Otherwise its a rope round the neck when the revolution comes, you heartless, evil *****. All those communities destroyed, good people&#39;s lives ripped apart, she should burn.

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by England Expects+Apr 23 2006, 04:54 PM--> (England Expects @ Apr 23 2006, 04:54 PM)
[email protected] 23 2006, 03:16 PM
Remember, it is not really the death of the individual on a personal level that we celebrate, we simply cannot know, it is the ideas that she stood for. Thatcherism was a plague of the latter 20th century in Britain, and as one of "Thatcher&#39;s children <_< :angry:" I would see this as no great shame.
Sorry, I&#39;m trying to get through your garbled sentences. No offence intended.

If you are saying that it is a celebration of the death of the ideas that she represents then I&#39;m sorry to say that I don&#39;t think they are dead. The way I see things is that there is a cosy little Thatcherite consensus in British Politics.

If you are saying that it&#39;s ok to celebrate her death because of the ideas that she represented then I would say that would be counter productive. Dancing on graves is not a very good way to sell class consciousness, or leftism in general, to the unconvinced.

I tick the indifference box but still frown upon those who tick the happy box. [/b]
I just hope she dies on 20th April next year: my 18th birthday&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; And it&#39;s a Friday, so it&#39;s off to London the day after&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Comrade J]

To be honest, I&#39;m hoping she dies on a Sunday or a Saturday, as it gives longer time for people to organise transport etc. from around the country.
If she dies on a Thursday or Friday, it might be harder for people to get the time off or book transport to get there.

[kingbee]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 03:39 PM
I just had a look at the London Class War site,and they;ve gone to the trouble of putting parts of the site in Welsh and Irish&#33;

True. But the Welsh spelling is apalling...

[Iroquois Xavier]

Death would be an improvement for that evil cow. The Midlands definitely will be havin a party. She closed most of the factories down and sent the county into financial meltdown. We wont be shedding a tear thats for sure.

[RedAnarchist]

And neither will we in North West England - she&#39;s hated here by the vast majority. We do have a few moronic Tories around here, especially in rural East Lancashire&#39;s Ribble Valley constituency (which the village I live in will be in the next General Election :( )

[The Grey Blur]

At the 1986 Tory general convention they crowed and celebrated over the political murder of three, unarmed IRA volunteers

Just like Bobby Sands said - "Our revenge will be the laughter of our children" - and so I chuckle at Maggie dieing a hopefully, long, painful, embarassing death

[drain.you]

i&#39;ll be there in T.square&#33; Maybe this is a tad evil but if she falls seriously ill before she dies I would quite like to stand outside her outside chanting encouraging words of death. she sucks, worst PM that I can think of, I hate her for everything she stands for and everything she did.

[Guest]

all i have to say is R O F L

good luck&#33; give &#39;er a nice red kick in the bum&#33;

[Angry Young Man]

I remember something on Have I got news for you where one of the panelists said Thatcher&#39;s grave will be a public urinal for any decent human being&#33;&#33;&#33; Me personally, I will be presenting her with an engraving knife&#33; What should I engrave on her tombstone?
BTW there should be a party in Cardiff, because you see my old man isn&#39;t very well and I&#39;m sure he&#39;d like to celebrate&#33;

[Iroquois Xavier]

A student guild union leader where i live in Birmingham caused outrage among conservatives when he put forward a motion "Ding Dong the Witch is dead" to celebrate the eventual death of the evil *****. He said we should have a parade through the streets and get "seriously pissed" which for students is a normal occurance&#33; :lol:

here you go...

http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/mail/n...#story_continue (http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/mail/news/tm_objectid=17183322%26method=full%26siteid=50002% 26headline=student%2dleader%2din%2dthatcher%2dpart y%2drow-name_page.html#story_continue)

[Angry Young Man]

&#39;Andrew Mitchell, Sutton Coldfield&#39;s Conservative MP, agreed: "Many students will find this tasteless and juvenile and I would agree with that&#39;

Only because Thatcher greatly reduced the amount of grants in order to halt left-wing presence in Academia due to fewer working-class students.

Don&#39;t take this the wrong way, but are Brummies daft enough to vote a Tory as equality councillor?


"Most people would agree that Margaret Thatcher is probably the greatest Prime Minister since Churchill. She did an enormous amount of good for Britain."

:rolleyes: prft&#33;&#33; Try saying that in Newport&#33; (or Goole... Or Ebbw Vale... Or Selby... or Merthyr Tydfil... Or Sheffield... Or Doncaster... Or anywhere in Industrial Yorkshire or ALL of South Wales&#33;&#33;&#33;)


Richard Angell, in defending his motion, said Lady Thatcher&#39;s agenda was "regressive, anti-society, and anti-student".

Basically, anti-human :lol:

Leon Kahlo x x

[Renegade420]

If you realy want to celebrate when that woman (or anyone) dies then you are one seriously sick person

So was it wrong to snap open a bottle of bubbley when hitler blasted his fuckin brains out?

[Si Pinto]

First and foremost let me say that I despise that woman with a passion, and I for one will not mourn her death for one instant, but I do feel your all being a bit harsh on EE.

He or she is simply stating that &#39;celebrating&#39; the death of someone is vindictive, which it is (she may well deserve the vindictivness, and JESUS she does, but it is still not a very admirable quality).

Thatcherism is still alive and well and living in our country, still crapping on the working class, ruining the NHS, closing factories, breaking up the transport network, and still looking to privatise anything that moves.


So was it wrong to snap open a bottle of bubbley when hitler blasted his fuckin brains out?

No, but was that the real reason people celebrated on VE day? I don&#39;t think so, they celebrated because his regime had fallen, not just him.

If his generals had succeeded in bumping Hitler off in July 44, would that have been a reason to celebrate? I don&#39;t think so, because under &#39;intelligent&#39; leadership the war was likely to go on a lot longer, with who knows how many more millions would be murdered by the Nazi regime.

As I said at the start, I will never have anything but contempt for her and all her kind, but I won&#39;t lower myself to &#39;pissing on her grave&#39;, because she isn&#39;t even worth that.

When the day comes that Thatcherism is dead, I&#39;ll be the first there, with a crate of beer and a box of Pringles ;) , and party forever&#33;&#33;&#33;

[apathy maybe]

Here richly, with ridiculous display,
the Politician&#39;s corpse was laid away.
While all of his acquaintance sneered and slanged
I wept: for I had longed to see him hanged.
Hilaire Belloc - "Epitaph on the Politician"

And a variation on a theme

They buried the politician today
The crowd it jeered and rang.
But as for me, I wept
For I had hoped to see him hang.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 29 2006, 12:42 PM
I will probably be on my own though, but I&#39;m sure it will be quite a social occasion and I&#39;ll find somebody to talk to :D

Lets hope she dies this year or the next.
Yea just come and find me :)

One thing I will mention. Class war said that if she pops her clogs on a friday night or saturday morning, they will still go ahead, but will probably have another one the following saturday. I&#39;ll just stay in london for both

You can listen to the party callout here (http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/06/10355.php) (skip to 1:11:20)

[RedAnarchist]

What if someone kills her? Do we still celebrate her death?

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 06:17 PM
What if someone kills her? Do we still celebrate her death?
yea, but have you seen how frail she is? assasination would be a waste of time.

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Additives Free+Jul 1 2006, 07:18 PM--> (Additives Free @ Jul 1 2006, 07:18 PM)
[email protected] 1 2006, 06:17 PM
What if someone kills her? Do we still celebrate her death?
yea, but have you seen how frail she is? assasination would be a waste of time. [/b]
well, someone could pop a balloon behind her or something.

[Scots_Socialist]

I for one will raise a bottle when that fucking old cow snuffs it&#33;I&#39;ll never forget what she done to the people of "britain" and in Éire(Esp when she murdered those brave Vol. in the H block cages of Long Kesh)...

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 10:24 PM
I for one will raise a bottle when that fucking old cow snuffs it&#33;I&#39;ll never forget what she done to the people of "britain" and in Éire(Esp when she murdered those brave Vol. in the H block cages of Long Kesh)...
well I just hope you can make it to the London party or one locally&#33;

Because let&#39;s be honest it&#39;s going to be disgusting watching TV with all the respectful polititans going on about how good she was blablabla...

[Scots_Socialist]

well I just hope you can make it to the London party or one locally&#33;

I wont make it to London but i&#39;ll organise my own one in Glasgow if need be Comrade&#33; ;)