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Rosa Lichtenstein
20th April 2006, 17:20
Is it really true that light-bulbs can change themselves?

It seems they can if Woods and Grant are correct:



"Dialectics explains that change and motion involve contradiction and can only take place through contradictions.... Dialectics is the logic of contradiction....

"So fundamental is this idea to dialectics that Marx and Engels considered motion to be the most basic characteristic of matter.... [Referring to a quote from Aristotle] [t]his is not the mechanical conception of motion as something imparted to an inert mass by an external 'force' but an entirely different notion of matter as self-moving....

"The universal phenomena of the unity of opposites is, in reality, the motor-force of all motion and development in nature. It is the reason why it is not necessary to introduce the concept of external impulse to explain movement and change -- the fundamental weakness of all mechanistic theories. Movement, which itself involves a contradiction, is only possible as a result of the conflicting tendencies and inner tensions which lie at the heart of all forms of matter....

"...Matter is self-moving and self-organising." [Woods and Grant 'Reason In Revolt', (Wellred Publications, 1995), pp.43-45, 47, 68, 72. Emphases added.]


Perhaps matter has been possessed by a Poltergeist?

Is this the spectre that haunts dialectical materialism?

I suspect so.

For those interested, this lamentable 'theory' has been subjected by me to yet more materialist torture in a new Essay I have just posted ("Change Through Internal Contradiction"); it can be accessed here:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/page%2008_01.htm (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/page%2008_01.htm)

Axel, you can come out from under the bed-clothes now.

The scarey bit is over....

Axel1917
20th April 2006, 17:41
Did you even listen to the clarification CyM gave on this issue, thereby refuting you? Obviously not.

Dialectics, Rosa's scapegoat for all of humanity's problems. :rolleyes:

Rosa Lichtenstein
20th April 2006, 18:22
Axel: so you managed to emerge from under the bed sheets?


Did you even listen to the clarification CyM gave on this issue, thereby refuting you?

Well, he didn't; and I challenge you to post the link.

And I note you are once again reduced to silence, being incapable of defending your own beliefs -- except you are content to let others fight your battles for you, and badly.

And, as someone who is proud of not reading anything I post, that was a bit rich.


Dialectics, Rosa's scapegoat for all of humanity's problems.

And your proof of that slur is what?

It is, however, responsible for a large proportion of Marxism's problems.

That is part of why revolutionary socialism is to success what you are to reasonableness.



Dialectics: refuted by history; still (!) believed by Axel.

Hegemonicretribution
20th April 2006, 23:02
Is there really anything new in this thread? There are plenty of threads on dialectics, including attacks on fundamental ideas such as this.

I am closing this thread, PM to discuss it if you wish.