The Queen's Birthday (UK)

[Ollie]

Well shes made it to 80, not surprising she has had an easy life etc, touring the globe shaking hands with people like Bush, eating scones with strawberries and creme in the summers garden!

Quite sad to hear schools and colleges are celebrating her birthday though, what has the queen done for me.....nothing.

Will be sad and frustrating to see so many gullable idiots having a drink to celebrate someone who has done very little for the world and takes the proletariats tax money.

[Dreckt]

Oh well, at least the queen doesn't have as much power as the scumbags in Washington DC. Europe still have kings and queens, but Europe as a whole is, in my opinion, much more liberal than the USA.

[RedAnarchist]

I think you should celebrate her birthday - one less birthday away from her death! :lol:


Plus, once she's dead, I bet the popularity of the monarchy will go down significantly.

[drain.you]

Quite sad to hear schools and colleges are celebrating her birthday though
Dunno about every other school and college in the Uk but mine is closed for Easter.

I hate monarchy. Though the monarchy helped open my eyes to the inequality in the country so I could thank them for that lol. Even though its not too nice I will celebrate her death, despite the fact she'll just be replaced by another wanker.
Would give me alot of joy to see the royal family exiled from the UK.

[Cult of Reason]

The fact that the royal family exist at all it bad enough, but the fact that most, if not all, of them are complete morons just makes it worse.

Today, someone told me of the superstition that, if the ravens left the Tower of London, the monarchy would leave. As a joke, I asked what would happen if I poisoned them.

Spring is here!
La la Spring is here!
Life is skittles, and life is beer,
I think the loveliest time of the year,
Is the Spring, don't you? 'Course you do.

But there's one thing that makes Spring complete for me,
And makes every Sunday a treat for me:

All the world seems in tune on a spring afternoon as we poison the pigeons in the park!
On Sunday you'll see my sweetheart and me as we poison the pigeons in the park...

When they see us coming, the birdies all try an' hide,
But they still go for peanuts, when coated with cyanhide!

-Tom Lehrer

[Conghaileach]

I like this site...

ThroneOut.com (http://www.throneout.com/)

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 08:34 PM
Well shes made it to 80, not surprising she has had an easy life etc, touring the globe shaking hands with people like Bush, eating scones with strawberries and creme in the summers garden!

Quite sad to hear schools and colleges are celebrating her birthday though, what has the queen done for me.....nothing.

Will be sad and frustrating to see so many gullable idiots having a drink to celebrate someone who has done very little for the world and takes the proletariats tax money.
look on the bright side... ...shes a year closer to death!

Thats something to be merry about. :D

My only fear is that she wont live long enough to see the revolution, same with that old hag, thatcher.
I think the Royal family are the beourgiouse's own worst enemy. They make it so easy to caricature and demonise them.

[Comrada J]

Down with the British monarchy!

[Sir Aunty Christ]

It makes me sick.

I want two birthdays a year.

Hold on a tick. If she's had two birthdays a year since she became Queen, we communists should respect her and celebrate her 132nd birthday.

[Donnie]

Will be sad and frustrating to see so many gullable idiots having a drink to celebrate someone who has done very little for the world and takes the proletariats tax money.

Well you know what to do then don't you. Organise a counter party. The group i'm in at home are coming up with plans to organise a 'Bash The Queen Partaa".

[Guerrilla22]

Fuck the queen and the whole royal family. The Brits should storm Buckingham palace and cut off all of their heads like the French did back in the day.

[drain.you]

Sad fact is, an overwhelming proportion of British society approves of the monarch :-(

[Guerrilla22]

Then they should have their heads cut off too.

[MurderInc]

As an American, I am educated, if not brainwashed, to hate monarchy. But really, isn't this a waste of energy. What about a socialist Britain who simply pears down the royals' lifestyles until there would be no point in anyone wanting the job. Certainly this could be done simply and calmly without bloodshed. They aren't the Romanoff's for Godsake.

[Sir Aunty Christ]

As I've said in another thread, if the royals actually did anything there'd be more cause for concern.

[bolshevik butcher]

SEX PISTOLS LYRICS

"God Save The Queen"

God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb

God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming

Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future,
No future for you

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems

Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
All crimes are paid

When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, you're future

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future,
No future for me

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future
For you

[piet11111]

the royal family's are preserved because of the "celebrity" status they have.
what i would give to kick the dutch royal family out of their palaces and out of the country.

i really would love to see all the royal family's being sheltered in some capitalist country together like extremely expensive caged animals.
such a concentration of inequality in 1 single country would make serious propaganda for our cause.

[Hegemonicretribution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 10:46 PM
what i would give to kick the dutch royal family out of their palaces and out of the country.

I didn't notice that they were very prolific over there, less so than in Britain anyway.

I think a list of pros and cons can aptly describe why we should be opposed to the monarchy.

Pros: She can in theory at least stop reactionary legislation from passing.

Cons: Innability to make the most of her pros
Everything else

[VermontLeft]

Ive never been to the UK, but i cant imagine that anybody actually takes any of this monarchy shit seriously.

i mean those who actually spoend a lot of time thinking about the queen are probably ignoring the real problem. the queen does shit. getting rid of her woudlnt do anything so any leftist who make stoping monarchy their goal are just wasting time. :o

the real problems in the Uk come from bourgeois politicians and rich bosses, not some lame ass fucking queen :D :lol:

seriously dudes, the queen can fuck all, im sure youve got worse problems over there! we sure as fuck do over here! ;)

[piet11111]

Hegemonicretribution the royal family doesnt do anything at all except being involved with high profile organisations (the crown prince is heavily involved with the olympics for instance) and showing up for ceremonial stuff.
they get paid by the state without having to do anything resembling a job they to my knowledge dont even need to pay taxes.

their wealth (including posessions) cant even be estimated but their bank accounts are easily in the hundreds of millions of euro's.
also the dutch royal family is not even good for producing a scandal or 2 every year so their entertainment value (the only thing that might be considered a pro) is close to nothing.

[MiniOswald]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 10:59 PM

Pros: She can in theory at least stop reactionary legislation from passing.

Not really, it'd create a problem if the queen interfered with a piece of legislation, as legislation is drafted by the elected body, and therefore, in theory, the voice of the majority of the people. And I dont think liz is to ready to give up her comfortable life for the sake of morals and priniciples.

[Communism]

The whole idea of the royal family is utterly ridiculous, firstly they claim to be this pure bred English generation when in fact the Queen of England as she is called is actually German aswell. Secondly I hear conservatives moan about how their taxes are too high with this "labour" government yet they continue to uphold the monarchy who takes taxes from them. Also I believe it was a conservative prime minister (disraeli) or it might have been gladstone who passed an act to stop buying your way to the top in the army and just look who has qualified as a higher rank than every new recruit. It would give me great pleasure to overthrow this money grabbing monarchy.

[bolshevik butcher]

They were ont he news a while ago, its depressing. All these people in union jakc hats waving flags and feeling proud of themselves and their country. Murder Inc, it's what they erepresent. In any revolution theyd be overthrown. I don't think i'd have them killed, no, i'd have them live just like normal people instead.

[Dreckt]

I think the royal question is overexagerated. Sooner or later the new generation of princes will be tired of always having the attention of the media, always being judged over how bad/good monarchy is depending on their behaviour and doings. I'd rather say that the royals will soon fade away.

It is only a matter of time, really. When public funds stagnate into the level where the free living of the royal family are no longer accepted, people will just ask them to leave. If they won't, well, they'll be forced to do so.

[Ollie]

Some good posts.

I quite like this quote from Thomas Paine
"For all men being originally equals, no one by birth could have a right to set up his own family in perpetual preference to all others for ever, and though himself might deserve some decent degree of honors of his contemporaries, yet his descendants might be far too unworthy to inherit them. One of the strongest natural proofs of the folly of hereditary right in kings, is, that nature disapproves it, otherwise she would not so frequently turn it into ridicule by giving mankind an ass for a lion. "

[Janus]

80 years and still kicking. :lol: I can't believe that the British still hold onto some of this archaic crap. :angry:

[piet11111]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2006, 01:48 PM
I think the royal question is overexagerated. Sooner or later the new generation of princes will be tired of always having the attention of the media, always being judged over how bad/good monarchy is depending on their behaviour and doings. I'd rather say that the royals will soon fade away.

It is only a matter of time, really. When public funds stagnate into the level where the free living of the royal family are no longer accepted, people will just ask them to leave. If they won't, well, they'll be forced to do so.
hmm media attention vs money and the easiest life possible aswell as special treatment for being a "royal"

decisions decisions

sorry dreckt but you underestimate the lazyness of the wealthy and their ability to have politicians creating some law that can prevent the press from ever making an article about them.

[Goatse]

I'm going to fucking murder the queen.

[violencia.Proletariat]

People I've talked to from the UK say everyone hates the monarchy anyways. Whatever revolutionary action takes place in the future of England, the monarchy will be an obvious symbol to abolish.

[RebelDog]

The fact that I live in a country in the 21st century with an unelected, super-privileged, inbred, head of state is very despairing. That ***** and all the other parasites live in utter luxury whilst pensioners up and down the country cannot afford to heat their homes. I don't wish her a happy birthday, I wish her the same fate as her Russian cousins the Romanov's, if I were to threaten her power she would do the same to me.

[piet11111]

well outright murder of the adult royalty is not something i would be bothered with but incase of the dutch royal family the crown prince and his wife have a very young doughter.

i would not be pleased if someone would murder her instead i think its possible to have her adopted by someone without her ever knowing she was part of the royal family.

[Cheung Mo]

...The only thing I like about them is that they give Canada a head of state with no real political power, thus making it easier for us to go after those who do with looking "upatriotic" or some bullshit...Nobody here every gets called a ban Canadian for bashing our worthless fuck of a PM, but if you're an American and you bash your worthless fuck of a president, watch out.

[Americancommi]

Yeah here in the U.S.A their are too many dumb asses that blindly follow Bush no matter how many of their rights he takes away. I almost got atacked by one such redneck today.

[Hegemonicretribution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2006, 08:38 AM
Not really, it'd create a problem if the queen interfered with a piece of legislation, as legislation is drafted by the elected body, and therefore, in theory, the voice of the majority of the people. And I dont think liz is to ready to give up her comfortable life for the sake of morals and priniciples.
piet11111 I am fairly familiar with them, I stand by what I said.

Yes I agree that the queen can't really intefere, that is why I said "in theory"

It was only supposed to be mildly humorous, that is why unders "cons" I put failure to act upon pros.

Never mind.

Symbolically the monarchy is disgraceful, but materialisticall there are bigger fish to fry.

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 09:45 PM
Europe still have kings and queens, but Europe as a whole is, in my opinion, much more liberal than the USA.
Are you kidding? That's just plain old American self-hating that doesn't serve any purpose. Hell, even in the "liberal" Netherlands, we already have compulsory I.D. I wonder what the next repressive measure in my "liberal" country will be.

[Dreckt]

Are you kidding? That's just plain old American self-hating that doesn't serve any purpose. Hell, even in the "liberal" Netherlands, we already have compulsory I.D. I wonder what the next repressive measure in my "liberal" country will be.

Well, not the governments, just the people. They are more open, more liberal in that sence.

[piet11111]

Originally posted by Hegemonicretribution+Apr 22 2006, 12:04 PM--> (Hegemonicretribution @ Apr 22 2006, 12:04 PM)
[email protected] 21 2006, 08:38 AM
Not really, it'd create a problem if the queen interfered with a piece of legislation, as legislation is drafted by the elected body, and therefore, in theory, the voice of the majority of the people. And I dont think liz is to ready to give up her comfortable life for the sake of morals and priniciples.
piet11111 I am fairly familiar with them, I stand by what I said.

Yes I agree that the queen can't really intefere, that is why I said "in theory"

It was only supposed to be mildly humorous, that is why unders "cons" I put failure to act upon pros.

Never mind.

Symbolically the monarchy is disgraceful, but materialisticall there are bigger fish to fry. [/b]
i understood you where being humerous sorry for not being more transparant.
my grasp of english is still not as good as i need it to be in order to add humour into my posts.
so all i can use at the moment are those smily&#39;s <_<

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2006, 01:12 PM
Well, not the governments, just the people. They are more open, more liberal in that sence.
Again, I strongly disagree. Look up "Pim Fortuyn" on Wikipedia. He&#39;s dead now, but he&#39;s only a symptom of the much larger problems here. Take for example member of parliament Geert Wilders, who has started his party, and now plans to remove Article 1(non-discrimination) from the constitution and replace it with an article establishing the "judeo-christian and humanist values" as an integral aspect of the country.

[Dr Mindbender]

someone should grass her up to the benefit fraud people.
Shes been living off state income all her life and living with relatives in the armed forces.
How much do you reckon she&#39;d have to pay back? :D

[WeOnlyWantTheEarth]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2006, 04:43 PM
80 years and still kicking. :lol: I can&#39;t believe that the British still hold onto some of this archaic crap. :angry:
Ha ha,ditto to that.

Don&#39;t know if anyone seen this,but it needs to be shared.

http://i3.tinypic.com/w7nfv7.jpg

I could think of a hundred more fitting messages for the queen,but I couldn&#39;t fine a few hundred people to help make that possible.

[Dreckt]

He&#39;s dead now, but he&#39;s only a symptom of the much larger problems here. Take for example member of parliament Geert Wilders, who has started his party, and now plans to remove Article 1(non-discrimination) from the constitution and replace it with an article establishing the "judeo-christian and humanist values" as an integral aspect of the country.

Yes, I agree that Europe has many "immigration-issues", but I think those are quite overreacted in general. These so called "anti-immigrationists" do have a larger number, but I think that number will decrease over time. But in terms of political freedom, expression and in some cases laws, Europe is more free than for example America or Asia.

But of course, this surely depends on where you live in Europe, as it is the most divided continent compared to the rest of the world.

[TupacAndChe4Eva]

We need a modern, Communist Oliver Cromwell.

Down with this archaic shit.

:angry:

[kjt1981]

(cap in hand) &#39;Appy Birthday Maam.... Gawd bless her&#33;

Thank god for our queen&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; THANK GOD&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; Could you imagine a britain without her? or any of them?????

Thank god for all the good they do, everything theyve done for the country. Nobody deserves so much press or recognition.

Thank you maam. Gawd bless ya&#33;

[Cheung Mo]

Pim Fortuyn? My main beef was him was with his bullshit neo-liberal Thatcherite economics...I agree with his assertation that 16 million people in a land mass barely larger than Maryland (They have nearly 400 people per km^2) is already too much, and I can sympathise with his feelings for Islam: Fuck, the guy was a prominent gay pothead who had his life threatened by Islamist clerics for being a prominent gay pothead (Reminds me of a recent incident in Toronto where a group of Muslim wackos ran a slate of worthless fundie-fucks in the school board election in order to vote out the trustees who created an educational program to fight against homophobic bullying)...Don&#39;t lump him in with the likes of Le Pen, Buchanan, or the BNP...It&#39;s commonsense that an immigrant to modern Europe be forced to accept secularism and social liberalism...Europeans died fighting against autocracy, feudalism, and fundamentalism generations ago and justifiably have no desire to fight those battles again...Tolerance must never mean turning back the clock on civil liberties and human rights...Accepting religious fundamentalists from other countries is no better than accepting fascists within one&#39;s own borders...If we cede any ground to these lunatics, we are betraying the spirit of Nepal and the people&#39;s struggle against feudal theocracy.

[Hegemonicretribution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2006, 04:24 PM
i understood you where being humerous sorry for not being more transparant.
my grasp of english is still not as good as i need it to be in order to add humour into my posts.
so all i can use at the moment are those smily&#39;s <_<
Sorry, I was a little confused then, no worries though. ;) I just read over your last sentence again and it makes more sense now, and yes the smilies are a godsend just as Itallic and bold functions, but it can still be hard to portray what you mean on the board.

WeOnlyWantTheEarth: good pic, I wonder if anyone could photoshop it to read "Abdicate" :lol:

[citizen_snips]

This is from the Scottish Socialist Voice:


80 years young and still working

When an old lady reaches 80, it is surely awfully nice to be congratulated by Scotland’s very own wee First Minister.
But Jack McConnell lost his rosy glow when he saw an amendment to his frankly fawning little motion to the Scottish Parliament.
Tabled by the SSP, the amendment suggested this was a golden opportunity for Betty Windsor to gies all peace and retire from public life. A move that could pave the way to a democratic Scottish republic. But the Scottish Parliament would not allow the matter to be debated&#33;
SSP convenor Colin Fox didn’t mince his words: “The toadying refusal to debate the SSP amendment is a desperate bid to pretend the entire parliament is royalist and reduces a democratic parliament to a rubber stamp.”
He mused that, given Labour’s fervent interest in forcing folk to graft till they drop, perhaps the urge to keep old Bizzie working is indicative of a desire to raise the retirement age to 80 for all workers.
“It’s time the parliament stopped acting like frightened children and openly debated the case for a royal retirement and a move to a Scottish republic”

Vive la guillotine&#33;

[Cheung Mo]

That statement would make more sense if the SSP were not implying that the Queen actually works.

Too bad we have to wait another year for them to crush Lieblair in the next Scottish Parliament election.

[citizen_snips]

Well they can&#39;t knock out Blair in the Scottish Parliament elections, he&#39;s in Westminster not Holyrood. But they could give his hideous experimental clone McConnell a kicking if they set their minds to it&#33;

[Cheung Mo]

Another problem too is that many Scottish nationalists (a plurality of Scots support independence) consider the Lib Dems to be a viable option when in reality they are no more than a rubberstamp for McConnell&#39;s gang of bastards, thus preventing a nationalist majority in Holyrood. And I think Labour and the Lib Dems would be more likely to enter a coalition with the Tories than deal with the SNP...

And then you have to wonder how the SNP can work with the SSP and the Greens...They all agree on social liberalism, Scottish self-determination, and (I believe) Europhilia, but I could see the Greens and the SSP wanting more leftish economic policies and more radically ecologist policies than the SNP would be able to accept.

[mzalen-do]

the fucking queen is the source of all ma problems....she presided over an imperialist state that robbed n continues robbing africa n the entire third world blind....so im deeply concerned when anybody in they right minds can call emselves leftists while at the same tym singin"god save the queen"..

[piet11111]

Mzalen-do the vast majority is against monarchy here only they recognise that any monarchy (in the advanced country&#39;s) are only symbolic and dont have any real power.

as such they are not worthy of much attention as they are not the cause of modern problems.

[Angry Young Man]

If the old bag gets that kind of party, why can&#39;t I have one? My birthday&#39;s one day before her&#39;s, and I didn&#39;t see twentyone buff soldiers shooting their load at me&#33; I&#39;m the only queen here&#33; (don&#39;t take that as in the sense of the monarch&#33;)

[mzalen-do]

screw the monarchy..i wish the queen a slow and very painful death&#33;

[Iroquois Xavier]

The queen is one of worlds biggest freeloaders. Fuck the monarchy&#33;

[Guerrilla22]

I still say kill the entire royal family as violent as possible, seize their wealth and redistribute it to the masses.

[Iroquois Xavier]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2006, 05:59 PM
I still say kill the entire royal family as violent as possible, seize their wealth and redistribute it to the masses.
sounds like a plan... :ph34r:

[uk_revolutionary]

For those of you aren&#39;t aware of the following...

The Campaign for an Elected Head of State in Britian
http://www.republic.org.uk