Monopoly

[Noah]

This may sound like a silly question, however I must see it answered, so here goes..

Monopoly can be a fun game, just like chess (I like boardgames).

However in communist society, would Monopoly still be manufactured, the reasons for thinking it would not are as follows;

Some may think it might give people an incentive to start a 'capitalist revolution'.

Capitalism would be frowned upon, seen as an 'outdated' system like feudalism to us, thus people would think it's silly to even play such a game.

I know communism might not come in my lifetime (i'm 15) however, I do like that boardgame..but that doesn't mean I want to take on that type of path in life.

Thanks,
Noah

[Orange Juche]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2006, 05:19 PM
Some may think it might give people an incentive to start a 'capitalist revolution'.
I highly doubt many would think that.

You hit the nail on the head with your comment on feudalism. Just as Chess is actually a game dealing with feudalism and feudalistic warfare, Monopoly would be the same in a post-capitalist society. Nobody plays chess, and begins to ponder whether or not feudalism is a system worth having. It would keep property ownership where it belongs - in games, not reality.

[Noah]

Just as Chess is actually a game dealing with feudalism and feudalistic warfare

As I am aware, chess was create before feudalism in Persia.

Not really you could think of chess as modern combat, for example units made up of soldiers and aircraft, it's a game based on strategy.



Nobody plays chess


:lol: In my opinion; that comment is a generalisation and very silly :lol:

Lots of people play chess, the fact is however there are many reasons why people don't play chess just like many people prefer football to golf.

[Cult of Reason]

I like to play chess, I ust never get the opportunity.

On the isue of Monopoly, I think the mechanics of the game would disgust those living in a Communist society. Not that I am saying they would not enjoy it, but that they would find the system it describes as inherently immoral, for them, and remember that land ownership would almost be an alien concept, which they would think ridiculous.

[Orange Juche]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2006, 06:06 PM
Lots of people play chess, the fact is however there are many reasons why people don't play chess just like many people prefer football to golf.
I meant nobody plays chess and along with it ponders feudalistic socio-political philosophy hehe.

[redstar2000]

Monopoly should really be called something like "Real Estate Speculator"...it's a very "clean" version of "capitalism".

I would imagine people would compete to create a much more realistic version of the game...with all the bloody parts included.

It might be extremely educational. :lol:

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[Noah]

Haha nice redstar!

[dislatino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2006, 10:27 PM
Monopoly should really be called something like "Real Estate Speculator"...it's a very "clean" version of "capitalism".

I would imagine people would compete to create a much more realistic version of the game...with all the bloody parts included.

It might be extremely educational. :lol:

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Lol, i've always thought this of monopoly, it just occured to me, monopoly has a massive marketing scheme, they have so many different versions, i bet you good ol' blair has one with gold pieces under his bed...

[cenv]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2006, 10:15 PM
remember that land ownership would almost be an alien concept, which they would think ridiculous.
Exactly. I think that Monopoly would become much less popular and eventually die out, as people wouldn't be able to relate to it in the same way they do now. However, I can't see anyone taking it seriously as "incentive to start a capitalist revolution"!

[dislatino]

However, I can't see anyone taking it seriously as "incentive to start a capitalist revolution"!

Lol :lol: however the thought of it does make me laugh....

[RebelDog]

Would you stop someone playing 'Cluedo' for fear they may go out and kill someone with a candlestick?

[Orange Juche]

Originally posted by The [email protected] 19 2006, 03:12 AM
Would you stop someone playing 'Cluedo' for fear they may go out and kill someone with a candlestick?
Yes.

[Noah]

Would you stop someone playing 'Cluedo' for fear they may go out and kill someone with a candlestick?


My sister got angry at me when we were playing cluedo and cut my wrist with a penknife..

[drain.you]

Theres loads of games that are based on feudalism and films and such, the capitalists in our society dont fear these, why would the communists of the communist societies fear capitalist based games, films, art, etc. People will have generally moved on from capitalism. Its not like there are loads of people wanting to go back to feudalism in today's world, though there will have be alot more just after the capitalist revolution.

[England Expects]

I used to really enjoy playing fuedal board games such as "Tax the Barons" and from a similar era "Witch Hunt". Ah the childish notions I used to have of testing all my female relatives by dunking them in the village stream. Until one day I woke up and realised that women are our equals and that no man should exploit anothers labour.

[bezdomni]

There will be no "capitalist revolution" or even any noteworthy sympathy for capitalism in communist society.

Nobody (or a negligible amount) of people in capitalist society wish they could go back to Feudalism...hence, there is no "feudalist" party in any capitalist demockracy.

[LoneRed]

also its because in America there was never feudalism, which why not many in the states wanna go back to it

[cenv]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2006, 05:51 AM
also its because in America there was never feudalism, which why not many in the states wanna go back to it
I don't really think that's a big factor.

The most common reasons I've heard for people dismissing communism as a serious option is that it "is utopian and impossible to acheive" and "it won't really be that much better anyway". However, in a communist society it will be obvious that communism is not only a viable alternative to capitalism but is by far superior to it. The reason Americans don't even think about returning to feudalism is because there is absolutely no reason to, and any attempt to restore feudalism would be either laughed at or completely ignored by the vast majority of the population. This doesn't really have anything to do with the absence of feudalism in America's history, and once a communist society is well established, America's history of capitalism won't have a significant impact in that regard either.

[drain.you]

Yeah thats true. The majority of the world want capitalism over fuedalism because capitalism is simply a better system. Regarding America, it doesnt matter whether they had feudalism or not.

Though the past of a country must have some effect on political climate. For instance, America is strongly anti-communist because of its constitution which gives them their values and freedoms. Many people in post Soviet Union countries will be opposed to 'communism' because of what happened under its rule.

The Revolution is a fight though, right? Means it has two sides, the workers and the capitalists (generally speaking). The revolution will take place and the capitalists will still exist. There will be counter revolutions until the ideology of the capitalism is defeated and the new system is accepted by something like 80%-99% of the population.
Also it will take generations before the new system is fully accepted. Thats why nazi germany had the Hitler Youth, to get the young people to accept the system and break away from the ideology that their parents and grandparents had. While former capitalist workers and rulers exist then there will still be a degree of sympathy for capitalism. Alot of people will feel confused and unadjusted to the system and it will take time.
Thats why Soviet Union was never completely communist, it wasn't given enough time to become communist and on top of that, it was hated by the rest of the world, adding to pressure. Also the leaders after Lenin became increasingly capitalist until it collapsed. If there was no sympathy for capitalism, where did these leaders come from?