How am i wrong?

[Ultra-Violence]

so we were talking about the raoring 20's and then communsi came up and she blabed how its a economic system like the the state owns all the means of production and blahhblahblahh..... you guys pretty much no were she was going and so i said i disagree. i told her that communism is not a economic system and that there is not state she said im wrong yatayatayata.......... and i was like lady ive read marx im not dumb and she said "you obviously dont understand marx".........
i know im not wrong can you guys give me some affective ammo i can use

any and all help would be appreacited

[emokid08]

Stess that your not a Leninist, and that Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc are "Red Fascists"
I know that RedStar has a great definition of what Communism is. You should check his stuff out. Talk about "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need". Talk about workers' assemblies and workers' councils, and Collectivism and the Gift Economy.
Talk about how Anarchy and Non-Leninist Communism have the same goals.
No State
No money
No hierarchy
no or only one class
no war
no sexism
no rascism
world unity
no exploitation

stuff like that.

[redstar2000]

I'm not sure how much there's to be gained by arguing with "teachers"...true, the other kids in the class are listening and may learn something from what you have to say.

But the teacher thinks that they're in the front of the room "by right" and they "know more" than all the other people present...regardless of the sometimes brazen evidence to the contrary. :lol:

You're certainly never going to "defeat" a teacher in an argument or compel them to admit that they're wrong and you're right.

So you might just as well state bluntly what communism is and what socialism is and what the differences are between them and then let it go at that; if any of the other kids are interested then you can talk with them afterwards.

What is Communism? A Brief Definition (http://www.redstar2000papers.com/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1082898978&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&)

What is Socialism? An Attempt at a Brief Definition (http://www.redstar2000papers.com/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1082900868&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&)

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[LoneRed]

those "red fascists" how cute...

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

those "red fascists" how cute...

spot on i say!

Yeah, dont ur teacher obviously lie. but dont waste too much time.

I would just keep saying, "how could it be communism, they had a state. i dont think you know what you are tlking about"

She would have to debate with you, or lose face.

[Ultra-Violence]

So you might just as well state bluntly what communism is and what socialism is and what the differences are between them and then let it go at that; if any of the other kids are interested then you can talk with them afterwards

That is what i aimed to do but i got shit upped no cuase i didnt have anything to back up what i said but that you know like she said that i am wrong and i have NO understading of marx what so ever that was a shock to me really. but when i argue with people i am not really witty and tend to get all complicated and stuff and so i sarted this thread so i could get some suggestions of something simple but easy to say like

Stess that your not a Leninist, and that Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc are "Red Fascists"
I know that RedStar has a great definition of what Communism is. You should check his stuff out. Talk about "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need". Talk about workers' assemblies and workers' councils, and Collectivism and the Gift Economy.
Talk about how Anarchy and Non-Leninist Communism have the same goals.
No State
No money
No hierarchy
no or only one class
no war
no sexism
no rascism
world unity
no exploitation

stuff like that.

so ya thanx for your help all and just s you know redstar i constantly am reading and learning lots from your site :rolleyes:

:hammer: