Justice...long overdue - after four years of hard work...

[antieverything]

my family has been working for this day for a long time and let me tell you something: it's about damn time!


http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/02/national/02TEXA.html

http://www.fojtulia.org

...it's really hard to believe that we finaly won...this battle anyway.

[redstar2000]

Did you notice the part about "the beginning of the vindication of the system"?

16 of the people are still in prison!

The people convicted can never recover the lost parts of their lives spent in hell-hole prisons.

The $250,000 "compensation" offered is insulting.

The legal immunity conferred on those who conspired to imprison them is outrageous.

Even when America attempts to be "just"...it is unjust!

:angry:

[antieverything]

...they'll be getting out of prison as soon as this gets through the appeals court. Don't worry, the people who did this can still be brought down...but if you want to tell these people to not take the money

Yeah, you're right...this was all a waste of time. Wow...think of all the vacations we could have taken if we had just let this be.

Do you think that I don't know the system sucks? Friends of Justice has gotten two laws passed...we're working to change the system. If you want to go kill the people responsible, fine.

[antieverything]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...rime_tulia_dc_1 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030402/od_nm/crime_tulia_dc_1)

...I forgot that nytimes requires an account.

[Hampton]

More luscious links about Tulia:

http://www.kunstler.org/romero_liptak.html

http://www.kunstler.org/liptak1.html

http://www.mapinc.org/tulia.htm

http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/04_01_03tulia.cfm

(Edited by Hampton at 2:14 pm on April 4, 2003)

[redstar2000]

No, a/e, you're not working to "change the system" in any substantive meaning of the word "change".

You're working to "clean up the mess", "treat the wounded", help some of the victims patch their lives back together if that's possible.

You interpret my words as being critical of you even when they are not so intended.

"If you want to go kill the people responsible, fine." Isn't that what they have coming to them?

Doesn't a system that does to people what it has done to the people you helped deserve to be smashed?

After you win 10,000 cases like the one you won, do you really believe there won't be a 10,001st?

:cool:

[antieverything]

You don't understand what Friends of Justice does. We work for criminal justice reform and and end to the war on drugs.

FOJ members have testified to the Texas legislature in support of several laws...two of these were passed and are now called the Tulia laws. They require corroboration in undercover drug cases.

Because of FOJ involvement in another issue, the TABC (Texas Alchoholic Beverage Commision) has reevaluted their methods and have changed their training curriculum to include "sensativity" to suspects.

Stop being an arrogant asshole. Of course the system is screwed up. Of course this alone won't change it. That is why this is simply one front of the war against America's "justice" system.

[redstar2000]

"Stop being an arrogant asshole!"

No!

:cool:

[antieverything]

You know, Redstar, all that smoking is going to catch up with you one day.

[redstar2000]

You're probably right, a/e. I've been told that "heaven" is a "no smoking area". :cheesy:

:cool: