anti-religion in history

[mscommieparty]

in historical communism, religious beleifs of any kind were looked down upon. why is this? and who innitiated that change that makes us so indescriminate. i understand the reasons, and i understand that descrimination is wrong, but why were the historical parties so descriminatory?

[LSD]

in historical communism, religious beleifs of any kind were looked down upon. why is this?

Because "faith" is inherently reactionary and intrinsically antagonistic to any form of materialst understanding.

Communists aim to abolish capitalism because we recognize it to be objectively harmful to humanity. We do not think that capitalism is "imoral" or any metaphysical crap like that. Rather we understand that it is a fundamentally flawed economic system which nescessitates inequality.

Similarly, we take an entirely empircal approach to religion and recognize that its social role has been almost universally destructive.

Whether it be wage-slavery or mental slavery, a communist opposes subjugation and enslavement in all its forms. We regonize that people must have an inalienable right to believe that which they want to, but that does not mean that we must "respect" reactionary ideas.

A racist has the right to be racist, but we have the right to tell him he's wrong. Likewise for sexism, homophobia, and religion.

A free society will tolerate reaction in the minds of it citizens, but it will not allow that reaction to alter policy. As long as people keep their "faith" to themselves, there's no problem. But once it starts to affect others, it's crossed the line of acceptability.


and who innitiated that change that makes us so indescriminate.

Well, I suppose serious anti-religion dates back to the enlightenment. But secular humanism as a philosophy has its origins in the Italian neoclassicalism of the Rennaisance.

In terms of communist parites, it goes right back to Marx himself.

Historical materialism is, by its nature, antireligious and additionaly, Marx was the first person to identify religion and religious adherence as a consequence of class dynamics and not due to an inate "human nature".

Indeed, the "opiate of the people" line is probably one of the most famous that Marx ever wrote.

[chaval]

Similarly, we take an entirely empircal approach to religion and recognize that its social role has been almost universally destructive.

emperical? then send a link to the proof or something cause im inclined to think that religious countries have been just as bloody in their histories as non-religious ones, ceteris paribus

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 04:00 PM

Similarly, we take an entirely empircal approach to religion and recognize that its social role has been almost universally destructive.

emperical? then send a link to the proof or something cause im inclined to think that religious countries have been just as bloody in their histories as non-religious ones, ceteris paribus
When has there been an atheist country? But what we have seen is that modernized countries with large ammounts of non-religious people have a lot of action in the class war.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 01:50 PM
in historical communism, religious beleifs of any kind were looked down upon. why is this? and who innitiated that change that makes us so indescriminate. i understand the reasons, and i understand that descrimination is wrong, but why were the historical parties so descriminatory?
Blame it on this fellow.

Jean Meslier (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=47203)

At the very least, we should name a city for him after the revolution. :D

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