R.E.S.P.E.C.T.

[Andypunkarelli]

Okay so there's this new left wing party in the UK called RESPECT...one of their members is the infamous George Galloway.

1) Does anyone have any opinions on this party?
2) Will anybody be voting for them in the MAy elections?
3) Why oh WHY did he have to appear on a reality TV programme...i just can't take him seriously!!!

http://www.respectcoalition.org/

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

they're a bit too connected with fundamentalist muslim groups for my liking...

its a one trick party as well, its all about the Iraq war and nothing else...

[Andypunkarelli]

Yeah those aren't the first grumblings i've heard long those lines...and i guess they echo my sentiments too.

It just seems too good to be true...you know the feeling? It looks so dreamy that it has to be bullshit!!!

Is there any serious party that i can vote for in May??? I became disinterested in Labour when they became "new labour"....

[Enragé]

1) Does anyone have any opinions on this party?

reformist pricks with however some potential, since a large part of the progressive working class is represented there

2) Will anybody be voting for them in the MAy elections?

dont live in the UK but i might if i would live there.

3) Why oh WHY did he have to appear on a reality TV programme...i just can't take him seriously!!!

thats cuz galloway is a fucking presswhore

[Andypunkarelli]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 08:39 PM
3) Why oh WHY did he have to appear on a reality TV programme...i just can't take him seriously!!!

thats cuz galloway is a fucking presswhore
Hahaha fair point!!!

He actually told the press that he did it to reach a wider audience :lol:

[Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor]

They sound like a bunch of hippie reformists with no grip on reality, but I don't vote so I am a bit biased, to say the least.

[Cult of Reason]

1. Reformist bags of shite.

2. Not voting. voting for something like RESPECT can only be a protest vote, and it would be more effective not to vote at all (and considerably less effort).

3. Slightly more attention-seeking than the average politician.

[bolshevik butcher]

1- A reformist popular front made out of anyone who opposes the Iraq war including the highly recationary muslim assosation of britain.

2- Can't vote. They don't stand in scotland anyway.

3- Galloways an egotistical prick. He has always been this way. If he does any good for the left it's mearly a coincidence. He has a tremendous record for discredieting himself. And he's anti-anortion among other questionable views.

[YKTMX]

He's not anti-abortion, don't lie.

He has a personal opposition to abortion on religious grounds, but he supports a woman's right to choose.

[Cheung Mo]

Islamists, Stalinists, and homophobes pretending to be leftists.

I'm still ambivalent on whether or not they're more despicable than New Lieblair.

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 09:42 PM
He's not anti-abortion, don't lie.

He has a personal opposition to abortion on religious grounds, but he supports a woman's right to choose.
I've never understood how an otherwise knowledgable and active radical such as yourself could support such a reformist group as RESPECT

[bolshevik butcher]

Yeh SWP confuses me because as individuals I find myself able to relate to them and think of them as well defined knowledgable individauls generally speaking. However then they come out and support respect? Having said that they have made some good criticisms of the SSP. Good luck facing the assault of the ladership btw ;)

[YKTMX]

I'm not in the SWP, guys. Sorry.

[bolshevik butcher]

Sorry mate. You're a supporter. Why don't you join btw?

[YKTMX]

It's personal.

[bolshevik butcher]

Fair enough. Do you think the platforms, with swp in paticular are oging to face an assault fom the ssp leadership? It's my personal prediction.

[The Grey Blur]

CF I think you should support the SSP, instead of whatever entryist group it is your're part of.

And are SWP entryists as well?

[YKTMX]

Possibly, it hardly interests me.

[bolshevik butcher]

Rage your a follower of this catastrophic mkess of watered down trotskyism and platforms known as the ssp :o

[The Grey Blur]

Ah, I wouldn't say a follower, more a...supporter...kinda thing...

[The Grey Blur]

:lol: Okay the truth is I just like annoying you Ewan

[bolshevik butcher]

I[m a critical supporer of sorts. I'm in their youth section.

[The Grey Blur]

Yeah, I think we're in the same International Socialist Youth

By the way, do Hands Off Venezuala have an Irish branch?

[bolshevik butcher]

Youre in CWI I think. They have a platofrm within hte SSP. Anyway, I'm usure about Ireland. Here's the link to send them a message, the best you could do would be to ask. http://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/contact_us.htm

[The Grey Blur]

Cheers, I might just do that. What is the purpose/aim of HOV?

[bolshevik butcher]

Mainly to stand in solidarity with the enezuelan reovlution. To spread the word of what is happening in Venezuela and Latin America in general and get the word out that there is an alternative to capitalism and its not just a pipedream. It's being embraced by millions of owrkers in Latin America.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

the SWP don't actually stand in elections anymore do they?

I thought their electorial front was taken care of by RESPECT

[YKTMX]

It's not just a "front".

It's an alliance of disparate groups, formed out of the anti-war movement, which connects with people who would otherwise not have representation, on a platform of opposition to war and occupation, privatization and racism.

There aren't 16 thousand Trotskyists in Bethnal Green, comrades.

[Conghaileach]

I doubt that there is a Hands off Venezuela group in Ireland, but a member of the IRSP was over there last year with the group. I don't think he was with the HOV campaign, but there was a member of the Communist Party of Ireland who spent some time in Venezuela last year as well.

[Conghaileach]

The IRSP member wrote a number of letters while in Venezuela...

First Letter From Venezuela - My Arrival And First Contact With The Alberdi School (http://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/letter_alberdi_school280405.htm)

Second Letter from Venezuela - Don Quixote (http://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/letter_don_quixote280405.htm)

Third Letter From Venezuela - Wolfgang, A Hero From The Barrio (http://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/letter_wolfgang_barreto280405.htm)

Fourth Letter from Venezuela - On Workers' Co-management (http://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/letter_workers_co-management280405.htm)

[Communism]

I would never vote for this party as I believe george galloway appeals to religous militant extremists, he asscoiates with the likes of Sadam Hussein and argues that America is treating him badly etc. Well of course America is going to treat an arab badly, it is full of racist capitalists but the fact George Galloway is not concerned by Husseins slaughter of his own people he continues to defend him. He also did this in UK elections when he appealed to the uneducated classes ( Im not going to say what he stood for as it will sound racist and controversial)

[Conghaileach]

In what way does Galloway associate with Saddam Hussein?