I would shoot a yank to save Iraq - Saddam second

[peaccenicked]

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/page.cf...l&siteid=106694 (http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/page.cfm?objectid=12790687&method=full&siteid=106694)

[BRIN]

Interesting,I completely agree with bush is worse than sadam pretty much because bush is doing more damage than sadam could ever do and i urge the people of iraq to shoot the americans they're arse holes no all of them but almost

[ChiTown Lady]

This is the text behind peaccenicked's link:

I'LL SHOOT YANKS TO SAVE IRAQ Mar 30 2003

From Stephen Martin in Baghdad

THE china has been packed away, the walls are bare and the family silver has been spirited away to a safer place.

Now all that is left in the Baghdad sitting room is a sagging armchair - and an automatic rifle resting on enough ammunition to kill a hundred men.

The weapon is more than 20 years old, a relic from the Iran-Iraq war. But when the Americans come rolling into town, Ghazwan Al-Mukhtar will use it to kill as many as he can.

"The more of those American bastards I get the happier I will be," says the father-of-three.

Ghazwan, 59, is no ardent supporter of Saddam Hussein. He loves English pubs and American diners, often visited the UK and points out he was even educated in the US.

He is no friend of the Iraqi regime. He just hates George Bush and Tony Blair more.

Ask why, and you get a one-word answer: sanctions.

His business closed and his savings were frozen because of the UN trade embargo on Iraq imposed after the 1991 Gulf War. Humiliated, he and his family now rely on money sent from his brother in London.

The sanctions were supposed to make Saddam's people rise up against him. But as Ghazwan furiously says: "You stupid fools have done the exact opposite.

"You have alienated the people in Iraq who used to be your friends.

"I loved both Britain and America but you idiots have turned me against you.

"You impose punitive sanctions on this country which bring us to our knees.

"And now you want us to roll out the red carpet for you - you must be joking.

"Saddam Hussein is no friend of mine. But when your troops come down my street I'll be shooting at your boys all the way.

"But it won't be for the president. It will be for Iraq."

He says he knows of many more who feel as he does.

Even when confronted with a litany of Saddam Hussein's human rights abuses, torture chambers and secret police, he holds firm. "You say Saddam Hussein has killed many people - I say the UN sanctions have killed our children. Does Saddam Hussein kill children? No."

Bitterly, he adds: "You weren't calling him a ruthless dictator in the Eighties when this place was dripping with money.

"Now you say you are bombing us into democracy. Yet since you've unloaded thousands of missiles on us I don't feel more democratic.

"So you should unleash another thousand - or double that, triple that or more. Maybe then I will feel more democratic.

"You give me the choice between Saddam Hussein or George Bush. I take Saddam Hussein every time."

This is why, when our troops come to liberate him, he will be shooting to kill.

His gun may be a museum piece compared to the Allied tanks. But, with his family sent away, this former Iraqi soldier means to fight. And he is not on his own.

[革命者]

i hope that for a change the Allies will see that they can't win this war operating without taking risks, and that they agree to fight instead of murder-- even with this amount of soldiers they must be able to take Baghdad in 2 weeks.. they're just to chicken and don't sacrifice any US soldiers(they never do).. bah..

ShoMo.

(Edit in: not that it is not murder anyway of course.. but i meant not just murder every soldier/civilian before hitting Baghdad.)

(Edited by Scotty at 11:58 am on April 1, 2003)

[Sinistra]

GOD ... i am getting tired of all your speeches about how bush is worse than saddam . .. you can continue with your bullshit ... you have never been under a dectator , you can't imagine how hard it is to live in a non democratic state , maybe bush isn't the best president ever , but he is no saddam .

[peaccenicked]

what do you call a democratic state? One where billionaires own the media, one where the powers that be including the rich mans opposition to the rich man s government all support the smashing of little babies heads to smithereens.
The point of the article really is that Iraq is not Saddam.
It is not a war against saddam as General Franks said.
The fate of Saddam does not matter that was after the oilfields were secured in south Iraq.

[Zombie]

you have never been under a dectator
Have you?

you can't imagine how hard it is to live in a non democratic state
Can you?

[peaccenicked]

YES

[hawarameen]

Quote: from Zombie on 3:59 pm on April 1, 2003
you have never been under a dectator
Have you?

you can't imagine how hard it is to live in a non democratic state
Can you?


I have

I can

its saddam actually!

[Zombie]

I have
I can
its saddam actually!

Dude I think we already discussed this matter in another thread, and with all due respect, I still say that the current actions are not the way to go. In your revelant thread, I tried not to take the argument further, as I was sure it would escalate to the level of the Angie vs Hawarameen argument. I didn't want to go that far, and I guess it didn't after all.

The response you are quoting was specifically targeted at Sinistra who was not showing a single argument as to back up her/his claim. As if she/he really did live under a dictatorial regime such as Saddam's, in order to voice her/his brief statement.

In light of peaccenicked's response, I believe we all lived, one way or another, under a non democratic state. The U$ being the first ; illegal elections, attacks at humang rights and freedom of speech, extreme media censorship etc. That's if this is what peaccenicked meant by 'YES'. I don't know where he comes from.

I still respect your position ; I am for a free Iraq, I am for a free Lebanon, I am for a free M.E., but that freedom can not be achieved through Imperialist means such as the one we are seeing right now. The capitalist machine, that the US represent so well nowadays, has shown too many times how it deals with world crisis, and most of the time it doesn't end with a 'happy ending'. Heck, it was mostly responsible for WW1 and ultimately WW2! I can't trust it no matter what its reasons are, sorry.
I'm not saying anything new I know, forgive me.

Z.