Subcomandante Marcos - Is he the new Che?

[Resorte]

I'm starting to read Our Word Is Our Weapon by Subcomandante Marcos and I'll be able to help you in this topic by the end of the week.

[Larissa]

:biggrin:

[Smoking Frog II]

Che is irreplacable to all of us.

[Spartacus2002]

i am the new che

[Larissa]

Quote: from Spartacus2002 on 7:29 pm on Mar. 31, 2003
i am the new che
Good to know it Spartacus, I'm gonna need you.

[Subcomandante Marcos]

Resorte: Where did you get that book from ??

I see in Subcomandante Marcos a different leader than Che.

Che was a real guerrilero, he fought for the farmers violently and had a mor marxist view of the world, which was awesome.

Marcos is a different fellow, he only wants to free the Chiapas and that it is, like their saying says: "Para todos TODO...Para nosotros NADA". They are not looking to be presidents or anything, I see in the EZLN the future, an example to all of us, a light, hope...

[Resorte]

I think Marcos is the closest to Che that we can relate to in this new era. As much as I love and admire Che, I have to say that a revolution of the type he dreamed (and we all still dream in a way) would not be possible today. The world today is not same from 35 years ago and Cuba is not the best example for Latin America even tough I respect and admire Fidel. I think Lula and Marcos are showing us the way in a sense. Marcos is telling us that we can still be revolutionaries and not die trying. I don’t know if is just me but his charisma, romanticism and poetry reminds me of Che. I can’t wait to finish the book to learn more about his ideas.

[Resorte]

Quote: from Subcomandante Marcos on 1:58 am on April 1, 2003
Resorte: Where did you get that book from ??

I see in Subcomandante Marcos a different leader than Che.

Che was a real guerrilero, he fought for the farmers violently and had a mor marxist view of the world, which was awesome.

Marcos is a different fellow, he only wants to free the Chiapas and that it is, like their saying says: "Para todos TODO...Para nosotros NADA". They are not looking to be presidents or anything, I see in the EZLN the future, an example to all of us, a light, hope...


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/store...6006845-2873700 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/1583224726/102-6006845-2873700)



(Edited by Resorte at 1:08 pm on April 1, 2003)

[YerbaMateJ]

Both freedom fighters and willing to give their lives to fight imperialist aggression.

I'm reading that book right now too. He certainly has a way with words like Che did.

My impression is that he is a little "gentler" than Che. You all should know by now that I mean no offense to Che by that----it's just a feeling that Marcos has a "softer" vibe---But no wimp by any stretch.

It's good to know that humans of that caliber are still around today.

[Larissa]

Resorte is right about what he is saying.

[Jesus Sanchez]

Our Word Is Our Weapon by Subcomandante Marcos

I have read it too; it is a truly thought prevoking book.

[RevolucioN NoW]

I have read it too; it is a truly thought prevoking book

I cant find it at the brisbane library, does anyone have an internet link?

[Jesus Sanchez]

Sorry i cant help, Revolution Now, seemings im on the other side of the country. But it is definateley avaible in aussie.

[General A.A.Vlasov]

Guevara and Marcos - different people!

Che - "Revolition! Everewhere, where it is possible! Fight against Imperialism-Capitalism!..."
Marcos - "...hide!...make silent revolution...hide!"

This is my opinion!

El Grande of FARC-EP...I do not respect farc, for it's anti-revolutionary actions!!! :angry:

[Jesus Sanchez]

Meh, your opinion is your opinion.

[General A.A.Vlasov]

El Grande of FARC-EP...man! Who do you think you are?

You're just a rebelious teen in front of monitor! :angry:
And your beloved FARC torturing and killing innocents! :angry:
And what is your opinion on growing and trading COCA by FARC!? :huh:

So shut your mouth and listen to me...I do not want you to change your opinion, but your beloved FARC are narco-terrorists (as Kapitan Andrey well said)!!! THEY ARE real enemies of innocent population of Colombia! :angry:

I do not apologise damn govt. of Colombia and Para Militares (damn bastards!), but FARC is not much better that para's!!!
So think again about supporting FARC... <_<

[Scottish_Militant]

Marcos is a confused liberal, he has nothing to offer our cause.

[General A.A.Vlasov]

communist_revolutionary...Hmm...I agree with you. :)

[Jesus Sanchez]

El Grande of FARC-EP...man&#33; Who do you think you are?

You&#39;re just a rebelious teen in front of monitor&#33;
And your beloved FARC torturing and killing innocents&#33;
And what is your opinion on growing and trading COCA by FARC&#33;?

So shut your mouth and listen to me...I do not want you to change your opinion, but your beloved FARC are narco-terrorists (as Kapitan Andrey well said)&#33;&#33;&#33; THEY ARE real enemies of innocent population of Colombia&#33;

I do not apologise damn govt. of Colombia and Para Militares (damn bastards&#33;), but FARC is not much better that para&#39;s&#33;&#33;&#33;
So think again about supporting FARC...


Well General, my support for them has been growing smaller by the week, but I need not shut my mouth and listern to someone I don&#39;t even know.

As for them growing coca, I have no objections. Growing coca in South America was a normal event, until the U&#036; moved in and decided how to run foreign governmemts.
And you say they are not mutch better than the government, that means they are better, if it&#39;s only a little better.

But once again i respect your opinion, even though you obviously don&#39;t respect mine.

[Red Flag]

VIVA FARC&#33;&#33;

[Jesus Sanchez]

I don&#39;t think that he is the new Che, as know man we will ever see can replace him.

[FistFullOfSteel]

Marcos is EL SUB only

[RedAnarchist]

Marcos and Che have different aims, but both are good, couragoues and are helping to liberate the people.

Viva Che&#33; Viva Marcos&#33;

[Monty Cantsin]

how come Marcos doesnt show his face? i was reading about him today and his aims seem very short sighted.

[Hitman47]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 12:16 PM
how come Marcos doesnt show his face? i was reading about him today and his aims seem very short sighted.
maybe its Che in disguise, maybe he wasn&#39;t killed :o


anyways im a bit off in my imagination :lol:

[BOZG]

how come Marcos doesnt show his face?

When asked why he covered his face by the press in 1994, he said he&#39;d take the mask off but the press reporters immediately said no.
I think I remember reading that he used the mask to signify the facelessness of the indigenous people, as a disguise and also so that if there was to be a revolution in Mexico that he would not become a status figure or idol and could just disappear once again. I cannot remember whether these are the reasons he gave himself or whether it was someone elses explanations.


The actual aims of the EZLN as such are not short sighted but over time they&#39;re demands have become more short sighted. They&#39;re revolutionary current is beginning to dwindle in actions.

[Guerilla22]

If you want to talk about terrorist in Colombia, look no further than the various right-wing paramilitary orginizations that have been slaughtering innocent civillians in Colombia for over 50 years now.

These groups are nothing other than paid mercenaries, killing anyone for a buck. They are employed by the ruling class and the government, in an attempt to gain control of the guerilla groups. While FARC may resort to some violent tatics, which I&#39;m not necessarily saying is right, let&#39;s just remeber who the real terrorist in Colombia are.

[ComradeRed]

i think he&#39;s the new pancho villa.