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Zingu
31st March 2006, 05:13
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Pre-martial sex is a sin and is punishable with Hell. We read in Exodus 20:14 that “You shall not commit adultery.” Adultery is having any partners outside the wedlock. We must not commit the act, nor talk about committing the act (or bragging about it), nor are we to think it. Jesus himself says on the Sermon on the Mount that “anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” Committing the actual act is far worse than thinking it, although just thinking it is bad and punishable with Hell. Jesus tells us that no sinner will enter heaven. And Paul writes that the “wages of sin is death.”

Having sex before marriage is adultery as well. Sexual intercourse is an act of marriage in God’s eyes. “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” (Gen. 2:24) This becoming one flesh is shown physically in the act of sex. Therefore if one has sex and is not married, they are becoming one flesh as if they were married. Adultery. More so, Paul writes in his letter to the Corinthians that “the body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body?” (1 Cor. 6:13-15). He continues also by saying, “Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.” (1 Cor. 6:19-20). We are commanded by God to keep away from sexual immorality. So those who have had sex outside of marriage have committed a heinous crime against himself and against God and they WILL be punished.

Now it seems that many people like to brag about their sexual relations with others. This sinful act is just adding insult to injury. You are not only speaking about committing adultery when you do this, but you also are being unrepentant and are encouraging others to commit the sinful act. You sure are on a pretty wide track to Hell now aren’t you?

God WILL punish all adulterers. There are two types of punishments, temporal and eternal. Temporal punishments are those that occur while we live, while the eternal punishment is Hell. There are many temporal punishments used by God. Pregnancy, STDs, AIDS, and other things. Continuing in the sinful behavior will lead you straight to Hell.

Many people like to make excuses for their sinful behavior. They say “I’m in love and I’m going to marry him/her”, or “We are just fooling around, its not actually sex.” This excuses are not acceptable. Whether or not you plan to marry, even if your engaged, you are not to have sex. Not until you are married officially can sex occur.

But there is hope for those who have committed adultery. Our Lord Jesus Christ came down to earth to die for our sins. All the sins committed before He came, while He was there, and all the sins that will come afterwards He died for. To receive the great gift of forgiveness we must be sorry. We must repent. The Law, which I have laid before you above, should bring you to an awareness of your sin and bring you to repentance. Those who are not repentant of their adulterous act cannot call themselves Christians because in rejecting repentance you are rejecting Christ. Realize that your sins, in this case adultery, will put you in Hell. You should go before God and plead for His forgiveness, realize you’ve done terribly wrong and repent.

Forgiveness is right around the corner. Every time you repent, God will say “You are forgiven.” You can now have the peace that you are not Hell-bound, but rather you are saved. You can begin a “Second Virginity” as it were. We are to obey God’s commands to the best of our sinful nature’s ability. Therefore do not go out and actually, physically commit adultery again, nor never brag about your adulterous acts again and if you talk about them, talk about them with sorrow and guilt.

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.” (Matt. 7:13-14).
And for those who think they are still Christian who do not repent of their sins: “Not everyone who says to me ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” (Matt 7:21-23).

Gives you an idea of authoritarian religion is? Condemnation of all sexual liberation. (Or maybe this guy needs some well-needed loving.) Pretty much every posistion religion has on sex we critique is there. Discuss.

C_Rasmussen
31st March 2006, 05:22
I read bits and pieces of it. From what I got out of it I'm not sure if he needs any lovin or not but he needs to shut the fuck up about how people go about their lives :).

Eleutherios
31st March 2006, 05:35
Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2006, 05:22 AM
Adultery is having any partners outside the wedlock. We must not commit the act, nor talk about committing the act (or bragging about it), nor are we to think it.
He should have stopped writing right here.

redstar2000
31st March 2006, 05:55
Jesus...the first Sxer!

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Oh-Dae-Su
31st March 2006, 23:51
damn, i guess we are all pretty much going to hell guys, :lol: well poor guy, he is missing out on the most natural and pleasurable things a human being can do. By the way, i got a question.. so i guess dogs (and other animals for that matter) are going to hell too? cuz i mean, All Dogs go to Heaven! right? ;) :lol:

bezdomni
3rd April 2006, 01:16
Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2006, 06:04 AM
Jesus...the first Sxer!

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Nah. He drank like a fish!

Eleutherios
3rd April 2006, 01:38
Originally posted by Oh-Dae-[email protected] 1 2006, 12:00 AM
damn, i guess we are all pretty much going to hell guys, :lol: well poor guy, he is missing out on the most natural and pleasurable things a human being can do. By the way, i got a question.. so i guess dogs (and other animals for that matter) are going to hell too? cuz i mean, All Dogs go to Heaven! right? ;) :lol:
I think the typical Christian position is that animals don't have souls.

Oh-Dae-Su
3rd April 2006, 04:10
I think the typical Christian position is that animals don't have souls.

but :blush: , what about that movie :o no way!! it can't be, they must go to heaven right? :(

Zak
4th April 2006, 15:19
Well it's kindof a good thing actually if they stop breading maybe there will be less people born into that puritan crap.

TC
4th April 2006, 17:02
Thats not what adultery is though. Adultery is cheating on your spouse. Sex before marriage isn't adultery its 'fornication', something that is not condemned in the bible, and there are numerous instances of 'godly' people having sex with people they're not married to in the bible. The New Testimate only condemns two forms of sexual behavior, people already in a relationship having sex with someone other than their spouse and prostitution.

There wasn't even a formal legally binding institution of marriage in Roman Palestine when Jesus was alive. 'Marriage' was just moving in with your lover. Jesus never ran around telling young couples 'OMFG keep your hands to yourself until you get a minister to marry you officially in front of god in a church'; the idea would be rather absurd considering there were no ministers, no official marriage registry, and no christian churchs.

Dyst
4th April 2006, 17:14
the idea would be rather absurd considering there were no ministers, no official marriage registry, and no christian churchs.

That sounds nice. Now why did Jesus have to screw it up?

TC
4th April 2006, 18:39
He didn't, his followers did centuries afterwards. Jesus was a jewish religious reformer preacher type to some of the most marginalized groups of people ('the meek shall inheret the earth' goes over a lot better among a crowed of poor powerless people than with people with any authority) he didn't have like a big institutional infrastructure to work with the way contemporary christians do

redstar2000
4th April 2006, 22:08
Originally posted by TragicClown
There wasn't even a formal legally binding institution of marriage in Roman Palestine when Jesus was alive.

I imagine there would have been for the Greek and Roman colonial elite but "out of reach" for the indigenous population...who would have understood neither the languages nor the ceremonies.

And likely never saw one as it would have been pretty rare and they wouldn't have been invited. :lol:

Some Biblical scholars hypothesize that Jesus's jeremiads against "adultery" stem from the fact that he knew he was "illegitimate" (a bastard!). :lol:

There is a second-century Jewish legend that "Jesus" was the son of Mary and a Roman soldier...but it's not taken too seriously.

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