Social Aliens

[RebelDog]

It is my contention (which I argue with people all the time) that any intelligent alien life in the technological position to come to earth and visit us will be from an advanced communist society. I believe that in taking the theory of evolution seriously one must deduce that any intelligent beings in the universe will have a political history very similar to ours and will have been engaged in similar struggles. Evolution is a universal theory and shapes all lifeforms in this universe. It is hard to envisage a senario where any lifeform that became intelligent would not develop social ideas that were similar to fuedalism, capitalism or communism and develop and struggle for them as part of their evolution.

I believe that all intelligent lifeforms that get to the stage of fuedalism will inevitably develop in to a capitalist society and then socialism/communism as Marx said of us. I think the struggle that we are engaged in on earth is being played out across the universe by beings in their equivelent historical epoch. Not all societies will always make it and it is clear that capitalism is a distinct impasse that requires the greatest of all the struggles to overcome. The rewards to any society who can overcome capitalism would be great as we all know and the great collective power of such a society would, one would think, lead to our united global society seeking to travel to other areas of the universe and meet other societies and discovery.

In the epoch of capitalism we have already had 2 world wars and now we face the mother of all problems in global warming. We know that capitalism has no future if the human race has a future. With this being the case, I think we must deduce that with all life in our universe being under the same physical constraints as us and being governed by the laws of evolution, that if aliens do one day visit our planet then they will bear no relation to the ones in the mini-series V and plunder the earth and murder us. What would be the point anyway? No, I think they would be advanced communists, who may well be millions of years ahead of us both politically and technologically, but aliens who in their history have played out a similar struggle to us and managed to survive their capitalist epoch. I guess what I am saying is that communism is the destiny of all intelligent lifeforms who survive long enough, a point which I believe is lost on many a scientist today.

[Communism]

Communism does work and if you look closely at animals which live in colonies they often work in a communist sort of way. Ants for example work together to help each other and so that they can eat. This also happens in a lot of insect species. If you think about an "alien" it is just another species of a living organism and it is certainly being shown today that a capitalist society will be the downfall of itself. In my opinion capitalism is fundamentally flawed to help a species survive. People become to dominant and the weaker members of the species cannot live, is there is less of the species it has less chance of survival.

I also believe that there will be a far more intellegent species than humans, they will understand that they will be better off if they are all equal and not greedy like humans.

[Dean]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2006, 09:12 AM
Communism does work and if you look closely at animals which live in colonies they often work in a communist sort of way. Ants for example work together to help each other and so that they can eat. This also happens in a lot of insect species. If you think about an "alien" it is just another species of a living organism and it is certainly being shown today that a capitalist society will be the downfall of itself. In my opinion capitalism is fundamentally flawed to help a species survive. People become to dominant and the weaker members of the species cannot live, is there is less of the species it has less chance of survival.

I also believe that there will be a far more intellegent species than humans, they will understand that they will be better off if they are all equal and not greedy like humans.
Ant's don't have minds; they are motivated by instinctual fluids. Biological robots.

Monkeys are better examples, but basically any socially motivated creature ought to be able to actuate communism, if only in small societies. it is our great intelligence that can allow us to advance beyond that to make communism global.

[Dreckt]

Communism, for me, is like the internet. A big, huge, global network where everyone is a part of, and no one sits at the top.

Comparing it to animal society could perhaps work in some places - but animals don't have laws. I think it is quite often force is used to solve a problem, and I believe that it isn't a kind of society we want.

In essence, communism is either a very early civilization, or a highly developed one - along with the thinking of communism (equality, justice, freedom) since a highly developed one could in theory have any other system.