Looking for some flags

[Tekun]

Comrades, due to the massive protests here in LA and all over the US
I feel compelled to represent socialism/communism at these rallies and protests

As such, I've been looking for a flag depicting the hammer and sickle or the communist star
Anyone know where I can get a hold of these or other socialists/communists flags?

[Goatse]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Russia-USSR-Flag-3x5-N...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Russia-USSR-Flag-3x5-New-CCCP-Soviet-Union-Russian-Old_W0QQitemZ7754932913QQcategoryZ13883QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem)

(I've got a flag exactly like this... well, the hammer and sickle on it looks slightly different, but it's 3x5 foot, polyster with the same white bit with the brass hoops along the side. It's great, light, and it waves in the wind easily.)

http://cgi.ebay.com/VIET-NAM-VIETNAM-VIETN...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/VIET-NAM-VIETNAM-VIETNAMESE-BRAND-NEW-FLAG-FLAGS-5X3_W0QQitemZ7752566156QQcategoryZ13883QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem)

(Vietnam flag, same type as the one above.)

http://cgi.ebay.com/CHINESE-Flag-3-x-5-ft-...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/CHINESE-Flag-3-x-5-ft-Flag-of-CHINA_W0QQitemZ7753546385QQcategoryZ103962QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem)

(If you're a fan of Mao, I guess you could use that... although, the current state of China might make you want to further yourself from those fuckers.)

Alternatively, you could just use a sheet of red cloth on a bamboo cane. (Again, polyester would be good.)

[Zingu]

Just get a plain red flag, you're going to drive people away with the hammer and sickle...

[Goatse]

That's kind what I thought.

Using flags of states which most people believe to be communist will make people believe you're some butchering Stalinist.

[Forward Union]

Get some red material, or black, or stictch both together...

[Abood]

I advise you to get a Guevara banner - like this one:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41209000/jpg/_41209975_che_220_afp.jpg

[Tekun]

Just get a plain red flag, you're going to drive people away with the hammer and sickle...


That's kind what I thought.

Using flags of states which most people believe to be communist will make people believe you're some butchering Stalinist.

Yeah, I realized that
That's why I was looking for a flag with the communist star
Or maybe one with the seperated sickle and hammer, as if to show and support the peasant and worker (which BTW make up much of the protestors)



I advise you to get a Guevara banner - like this one:

Im not really big into the Che flags, just for the simple fact that he emphasized the role of the ppl in the revolution, instead of himself...so Im not thrilled about putting one man on a flag to represent the ppl


ScotPinko: I had checked ebay already comrade, thanks anyways, any other source u can think of?

[which doctor]

Go for the DIY effect. Just sew some fabric together.

[Cult of Reason]

Additives Free: Are most flags used home made? In the pictures that I have seen, either they were not homemade or doen very well (or is it esier than it looks to make a flag, a black and red one or hammer and sickle one?).

I think many people must be buying their flags from somewhere, but where?

[WUOrevolt]

http://www.akpress.com/1997/items/anarchosynidicalistflag

[Cult of Reason]

Great! Now all I need is 3x5 red cloth and 3x5 black cloth as well as that and my colletion woudl be complete.

[Goatse]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 11:40 PM
http://www.akpress.com/1997/items/anarchosynidicalistflag
Looks great, but bloody hell, $35? I bought my flags for £5 each, including postage.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 03:54 PM
$35
which is why mine is home made.

[Goatse]

What material and type of stitching did you use?

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 07:30 PM
What material and type of stitching did you use?
Well, mine is Cotton. Im not a material person, maybe that's not specific enough? but I just double stitch it, and used fabric glue in places. I find for the red and black flag, using a black thread to stick them together looks slightly better.

I don't think it matters what material you use.

[Goatse]

I'll try it out... see how it goes.

And don't worry about not being specific enough... I'm not a "material" person either... God, I was the worst in my class when we used to do sewing... and that was stitching patterns on a grid.

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 02:40 PM
Just get a plain red flag, you're going to drive people away with the hammer and sickle...
...says he with the hammer and sickle avatar ;)....

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 02:45 AM
Comrades, due to the massive protests here in LA and all over the US
I feel compelled to represent socialism/communism at these rallies and protests

As such, I've been looking for a flag depicting the hammer and sickle or the communist star
Anyone know where I can get a hold of these or other socialists/communists flags?
Just get a Palestinian flag, you cant go wrong with that. It pretty much sums up the whole anti- Bush, anti-zionist mandate and no-one can accuse you of being a closet Stalinist. ;)

[RedSabine]

I beleive he said socialist flags, not fundamentalist flags.

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2006, 03:24 AM
I beleive he said socialist flags, not fundamentalist flags.
Since when was the cause for the liberation of an oppressed people fundamentalism?
In fact if you want to take the dogmatic view you could say that socialism is fundamentalism as well.

[Enragé]

just get a big piece of cloth, paint it red or something

looks authentic

where do you think the revolutionaries of the previous century got their flags, i doubt they bought it off of the internet?

[Wanted Man]

Last time I checked, our party(New Communist Party of the Netherlands) and youth movement used these flags:

-USSR flag.
-Plain red flag with "NCPN" in white cursive letters on it.
-Old communist youth flag from the 80s, can't exactly remember what it looks like, but IIRC, it's red with the name of the movement and something like a cog and corn or something like that.

Also, this banner was used in the March 18th anti-war demonstration:

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/8200/spandoek8go.png

Text says: Youth are the future. The future deserves SOCIALISM.

[Goatse]

Originally posted by Ulster Socialist+Mar 30 2006, 01:44 AM--> (Ulster Socialist @ Mar 30 2006, 01:44 AM)
[email protected] 28 2006, 02:40 PM
Just get a plain red flag, you're going to drive people away with the hammer and sickle...
...says he with the hammer and sickle avatar ;).... [/b]
However, we're the bunch of crazies who actually know what the symbol stands for. ;)



Since when was the cause for the liberation of an oppressed people fundamentalism?

And since when was Islam a cause for liberation of an oppressed people?

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 02:40 PM
Just get a plain red flag, you're going to drive people away with the hammer and sickle...
Hardly. Those "driven away" by it are those who have already made up their judgement before they saw it. One need only compare the membership amounts of communist parties and the parties with "Socialist" in their names, which seem to be forever stuck in the hell of tiny university-based trotskyist groups.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2006, 04:18 PM
One need only compare the membership amounts of communist parties and the parties with "Socialist" in their names, which seem to be forever stuck in the hell of tiny university-based trotskyist groups.
And communist parties are better how?

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by ScottishPinko+Mar 30 2006, 02:59 PM--> (ScottishPinko @ Mar 30 2006, 02:59 PM)
Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 30 2006, 01:44 AM

[email protected] 28 2006, 02:40 PM
Just get a plain red flag, you're going to drive people away with the hammer and sickle...
...says he with the hammer and sickle avatar ;)....
However, we're the bunch of crazies who actually know what the symbol stands for. ;)



Since when was the cause for the liberation of an oppressed people fundamentalism?

And since when was Islam a cause for liberation of an oppressed people? [/b]
what has the Palestinian flag got to do with islam? Thats like saying the Irish tricolour represents Catholicism.

[Enragé]

Originally posted by Matthijs+Mar 30 2006, 04:18 PM--> (Matthijs @ Mar 30 2006, 04:18 PM)
[email protected] 28 2006, 02:40 PM
Just get a plain red flag, you're going to drive people away with the hammer and sickle...
Hardly. Those "driven away" by it are those who have already made up their judgement before they saw it. One need only compare the membership amounts of communist parties and the parties with "Socialist" in their names, which seem to be forever stuck in the hell of tiny university-based trotskyist groups. [/b]
:lol:

IS arent university based

and Offensief are just a bunch of talkers.

and those driven away are ordinary people who only read their school history books, and therefore think its a bad thing. And THOSE people are exactly the ones we need to reach, those who live in ignorance, because they were brought up by a society which promotes ignorance

[Goatse]

what has the Palestinian flag got to do with islam? Thats like saying the Irish tricolour represents Catholicism.

Then why not use the tricolour at a demo?

The Palestinian cause is indeed for freedom... well, to free Palestine and allow them to set up their own government which will also be influenced by religion.

Don't we have enough of those religion-run states already?

[Enragé]

the palestinian cause is to fight against oppression

just because its not also a fight to end ALL oppression (as in religious, state-wise as well), doesnt mean it isnt a worthy cause

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2006, 06:12 PM


what has the Palestinian flag got to do with islam? Thats like saying the Irish tricolour represents Catholicism.

Then why not use the tricolour at a demo?

The Palestinian cause is indeed for freedom... well, to free Palestine and allow them to set up their own government which will also be influenced by religion.

Don't we have enough of those religion-run states already?
Actually, the nation of Palestine is dual-religious, (Islam AND christianity) It is Israel that is set up on the dictation of religion.
The Palestinians are seeking their country back mainly on the basis of cultural self determination, not primarilly on the basis of ancient doctrine. Unfortunately their cause has been hijacked by the extremist hotheads.

[Tekun]

Back on topic....I'll be making a homemade flag in the next couple of weeks, for other protests in the future
But I'll still be lookin around for one

If anyone is still in doubt...the reason I wanted a flag with the hammer and sickle, USSR style or not, was to demonstrate my solidarity with the worker and peasant (which BTW make up the majority of the immigrants)
In addition, if anyone at the marches should so happen to look at me in a funny or puzzled way, I would take the opportunity to explain to them the benefits and equality that socialism/communism bestows upon the ppl
Thus informing and acquiring more conscious individuals for the cause

[Zingu]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2006, 02:59 PM

...says he with the hammer and sickle avatar ;)....
However, we're the bunch of crazies who actually know what the symbol stands for. ;) [/quote]
Exactly.

[Goatse]

Originally posted by Ulster Socialist+Mar 30 2006, 06:40 PM--> (Ulster Socialist @ Mar 30 2006, 06:40 PM)
[email protected] 30 2006, 06:12 PM


what has the Palestinian flag got to do with islam? Thats like saying the Irish tricolour represents Catholicism.

Then why not use the tricolour at a demo?

The Palestinian cause is indeed for freedom... well, to free Palestine and allow them to set up their own government which will also be influenced by religion.

Don't we have enough of those religion-run states already?
Actually, the nation of Palestine is dual-religious, (Islam AND christianity) It is Israel that is set up on the dictation of religion.
The Palestinians are seeking their country back mainly on the basis of cultural self determination, not primarilly on the basis of ancient doctrine. Unfortunately their cause has been hijacked by the extremist hotheads. [/b]
The Palestinian cause doesn't really sum up what communism/socialism is about... at all. We shouldn't use it, I'd go as far to say you're better off using a Chinese flag.

[Enragé]

the palestinian flag symbolises struggle against oppression, the chinese flag symbolises oppression

so I'd use the palestinian one

plus its kinda beautiful :)

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by ScottishPinko+Mar 31 2006, 05:14 PM--> (ScottishPinko @ Mar 31 2006, 05:14 PM)
Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 30 2006, 06:40 PM

[email protected] 30 2006, 06:12 PM


what has the Palestinian flag got to do with islam? Thats like saying the Irish tricolour represents Catholicism.

Then why not use the tricolour at a demo?

The Palestinian cause is indeed for freedom... well, to free Palestine and allow them to set up their own government which will also be influenced by religion.

Don't we have enough of those religion-run states already?
Actually, the nation of Palestine is dual-religious, (Islam AND christianity) It is Israel that is set up on the dictation of religion.
The Palestinians are seeking their country back mainly on the basis of cultural self determination, not primarilly on the basis of ancient doctrine. Unfortunately their cause has been hijacked by the extremist hotheads.
The Palestinian cause doesn't really sum up what communism/socialism is about... at all. We shouldn't use it, I'd go as far to say you're better off using a Chinese flag. [/b]
The palestinian people are the victims of the frontline of the neo con American empire- Therefore their cause does represent socialism and anyone who calls themselves a socialist should stand shoulder to shoulder with it.

The intifada is a global struggle, not a national one!

[bcbm]

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 31 2006, 02:36 PM

The intifada is a global struggle, not a national one!
Indeed! We all need to "cast off" our oppressors, not just the Palestinian people.

[Goatse]

Meh, well use the Palestinian flag if you want to represent the worker's movement. Whatever floats your boat.