Log in

View Full Version : Monarch of Nepal



che_diwas
27th March 2006, 14:49
This is the reply to the thread purposed by Freedom for all …All entitled Situation in Nepal on March 24 2006, 08:54 PM (Politics segment)…

First of all, the monarchy in Nepal is not poor...

The annual budget of Nepal separates approximately Rs. 100000000 (15 million US dollars) for the King and his royal family, whereas a simple officer in Government office has salary of Rs.5000 to 10000 (USD 70 to 140) per month.

The King and his family doesn't have to do anything.... they can just sit back, relax, enjoy and eat out the tax which is earned by the sweats and bloods of the Nepalese people.

Nepal has a very long history of Monarchy.... almost 2000 years up to today has been ruled by the tyrant Kings.... It was just from 1990 to 2005, that the country saw Constitutional Monarchy and Multiparty Democracy system. But even then the Army and Cops were under the authority of the King and not under the People.

Then in 1996 the Maoist movement started and spoke against the monarchy, and the need of new Constitution, which guaranteed the basic elements of human dignity.

Then in 2005, the recent king who sat on the throne after suspiciously destroying his elder brother’s (the previous king) family, took all of the authoritarian power in his hands with the help of the army and the police. The Maoist and the political parties are against the monarch at this moment and are now trying to work together on a same front to destroy the monarch.

But in my opinion the main drama will come after 2 yrs because the king has told the people of Nepal when he took control before a year ago that after three yrs the country will see no more of the Maoist problem and the people of Nepal will be liberated from the Revolutionary movement…

If he cannot achieve his goals and his determination within two years (no signs that he will till now), then I think that he will be a character of comedy and hatred by the People. And its then that everyone will know that whether he came to power to establish a tyrant’s monarch rule or not.

I want to know your opinion on whether the political parties and the Maoist should wait until 2 more yrs to see the true colours of the king or take him out before that….


Accept my greetings…

Ever onward to victory…

The Red Salute.

(Ps. I want to personally thank Red Heretic and Janus for actively taking part in the Movement of Nepal and providing us information.)

Zeruzo
27th March 2006, 16:47
Yeah sure, give the man a break <_< (Sarcasm, that is).

ÑóẊîöʼn
27th March 2006, 18:41
Was freedom for all... ALL actually defending the nepalese royal family?

Noah
27th March 2006, 21:18
I want to personally thank Red Heretic and Janus for actively taking part in the Movement of Nepal

Wow, that&#39;s awesome, Janus and Red Heretic if this is indeed true, if you are agreeable could you possibly tell me more?

Tekun
27th March 2006, 21:44
Well bro, that&#39;s kinda of a difficult question....
What&#39;s the people&#39;s sentiment as of right now?
Would the political parties and Maoists be welcomed or rejected by the ppl, because without help and support from the people, any Maoist movement falters

Second, how strong are the revolutionary armed forces?
How strong is the firepower, men, and logistics?


And finally, how strong and loyal is the country&#39;s military?
What are their numbers? Arms? Support?
If the tide were to turn in the revolution&#39;s favor, would the military give up or fight to the end?


Without that vital info, I can&#39;t tell u what or what not to do
However, what is in good shape is the terrain and country of Nepal which would favor and facilitate the guerilla in his armed struggle
Perfect conditions for a Maoist guerilla movement

Red Heretic
28th March 2006, 20:42
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2006, 09:27 PM
Wow, that&#39;s awesome, Janus and Red Heretic if this is indeed true, if you are agreeable could you possibly tell me more?
Hehehe, I think he&#39;s just talking about all of my solidarity work, and correspondence with various groups in Nepal.

On a side note, I am considering going to Nepal with the Road Building Brigade, this summer.

Basically, it&#39;s a group that sends hundreds of people from all over the world to Nepal to do work on the first major road throughout the entire Nepalese countryside, along side the masses there. Anyone who goes gets to do active work for the revolution, and meet hundreds of other communists there. You&#39;ve gotta be 18, and the trip lasts three weeks.

There are several photographs from the Road Building Brigades that have gone in the past to Nepal already posted in the Nepal Revolution photo thread of RevLeft, located here. (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=46231)

If anyone else is interested in coming, I encourage you to contact the organizers. Perhaps we could meet up&#33; ;)

The email address to contact the Road Building Brigade is [email protected]

RedStarOverChina
28th March 2006, 20:50
Originally posted by How much money does Nepali king earn?
How much money does Nepali king earn?

Nepal is one of the poorest counries of the world but Nepal&#39;s king is
the highest paid king of the world.

The income of Nepali king Gyanendra Bir Bikram Shah Dev is :
> 2,426 times higher than that of Chinese president
> 318 times higher than that of Indian president
> 301 times higher than that of Pakistani president
> 173 times higher than that of Russian president
> 57 times higher than that of French president
> 15 times higher than that of British prime minister
> 10 times higher than that of American president

> Netherlands queen&#39;s income : Rs. 22,32,00,000 (per capita income Rs
17,25,120 )
> American president earns Rs. 3,24,00,000 (1,15,20,000 returns in tax),
(per capita income Rs 25,24,320)
> Japanese king earns Rs. 22,23,52,000 (per capita income Rs.24,15,600)
> Chinese president earns Rs. 1,35,000 (per capita income Rs 67,680)
> Indian president earns Rs. 10,11,000 (per capita income Rs 34,560)
> French president earns Rs 57,96,000 (per capita income Rs 15,84,000)
> Pakistani president earns (after the coup) Rs 10,94,000 (per capita
income 29,520)
> British Queen does not get any salary from the state. She has a
property of Rs 30,24,00,00,000 (the profit of investiment, after
paying the tax, is hers) but even her neckless is the property of the
country.
> British prime minister earns Rs 2,19,58,000 (per capita income is Rs
18,16,200)
> Russian president earns Rs 19,03,000 (per capita income is Rs 1,54,000)
> Belgean king receives salary as a civil servant (per capita income is Rs 16,74,000)
And,

Nepali king earns Rs 61,91,00,000 (per capita income is Rs 16,560=US&#036;
230)

Janus
28th March 2006, 22:35
I want to personally thank Red Heretic and Janus for actively taking part in the Movement of Nepal


Wow, that&#39;s awesome, Janus and Red Heretic if this is indeed true, if you are agreeable could you possibly tell me more?
Yes, I am a battle-hardened rebel who has fought arm in arm with the Maoists. :lol: No, as far as active involvement goes, I&#39;m not involved.

However, I do support the Maoist&#39;s anti-monarchial policies and post information concerning the movement here. I would say that Red Heretic is much more "actively involved" with them.

Of course, the monarchy isn&#39;t poor. Most monarchies have huge amounts of bullion and other wealth that they have hoarded over the centuries.

che_diwas
29th March 2006, 13:39
Hey Red Heretic, I&#39;m from Nepal and if ure coming here, do give me a call at

[email protected] We can have a Red party togethter...HEHEHE...

And for NoXiOn,


Was freedom for all... ALL actually defending the nepalese royal family?

No, he was just asking information about the Monarch and its repressive behaviour in Nepal.



Well bro, that&#39;s kinda of a difficult question....
What&#39;s the people&#39;s sentiment as of right now?
Would the political parties and Maoists be welcomed or rejected by the ppl, because without help and support from the people, any Maoist movement falters

Second, how strong are the revolutionary armed forces?
How strong is the firepower, men, and logistics?


And finally, how strong and loyal is the country&#39;s military?
What are their numbers? Arms? Support?
If the tide were to turn in the revolution&#39;s favor, would the military give up or fight to the end?


Without that vital info, I can&#39;t tell u what or what not to do
However, what is in good shape is the terrain and country of Nepal which would favor and facilitate the guerilla in his armed struggle
Perfect conditions for a Maoist guerilla movement



The people in vast majority support the movement... Only 20 percent of the people support the king and his regime... out of this, 10 percent are his loyal candidates, 5% are behind him for personal benefits and to sieze the money from the national budget.... and the remaining 5% are not with the movement so, accidentally they are with the king maybe by fear or by greed.


The people who are in for the movement are about 80% but the maoist claim that they have more supporters than the political parties... and opposite speech comes from the parties...

But now, the parties and maoist are in the same front to deal with the king and they are taking out joint programmes from the same front from April 6 to April 10.

Visit : kantipuronline.com.np for more info...

Red Heretic
29th March 2006, 20:04
Che_Diwas, where are you located in Nepal?

Salvador Allende
29th March 2006, 23:44
The only problem I see with the rebels is they actively claim to be "Maoist" a monicker associated with the Cultural Revolution and Ultra-Leftism. However, if they are indeed good Communists who are of the Mao Zedong Thought and will seek truth from facts, I support them 100%. If not, they are still a good anti-imperialist force.

Red Heretic
30th March 2006, 05:02
Originally posted by Salvador [email protected] 29 2006, 11:53 PM
The only problem I see with the rebels is they actively claim to be "Maoist" a monicker associated with the Cultural Revolution and Ultra-Leftism. However, if they are indeed good Communists who are of the Mao Zedong Thought and will seek truth from facts, I support them 100%. If not, they are still a good anti-imperialist force.
For those of you who don&#39;t know, "seek truth from facts" was the slogan of the capitalist coup in China. Salvador is basically complaining that they are communists and not revisionists like Khruschev and Deng Xaipoing.

che_diwas
30th March 2006, 13:36
Hey Red Heretic,

I am from the capital city Kathmandu.

Salvador Allende
30th March 2006, 22:39
Really? I hate Nikita Khruschev and denounce his Revisionism as I denounce Lin and the Gang&#39;s Revisionism. I would also seem to recall "Seek Truth from Facts" being promoted by Mao as the best sentence to summarize Mao Zedong Thought. Mao speaks constantly about "Seeking Truth from Facts", whether in the "Methods of Thinking and Methods of Work" chapter of "Quotations" or in the "Ten Great Relationships" of 1956. Mao was very famous for advocating the defeat of useless dogma, saying that "dogma is as useful as cow dung...one can make anything they want out of it, including Revisionism."

Liberating one&#39;s mind from dogma and opposing Ultra-Left and Ultra-Rightism are the essential factors which all nations can use from Mao Zedong Thought. "Seek Truth from Facts" is the phrase which best summarizes this thought.

Disciple of Prometheus
30th March 2006, 23:32
Then in 1996 the Maoist movement started and spoke against the monarchy, and the need of new Constitution, which guaranteed the basic elements of human dignity.

As they should&#33; This kind of oppression should never be aloud, heredital power and wealth is out of date, and obsolete, and unfair to the people. The people of Nepal should speak out against, and over through said monarchy, because it wouldn&#39;t be hard for any monarchy to seize control over the country again, and start the reign of tyrants again, even if there serving as "figureheads," now.