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Larissa
29th March 2003, 01:15
(I'm posting this on behalf of a friend)

Southern discomfort
By Hooman Peimani

In his Tuesday statement, Ayatollah Mohamed Bakr al-Hakim warned American-British forces to leave Iraq at the earliest possible moment or face the Iraqi opposition's military resistance. Being the leader of the
main armed opposition group of the Iraqi Shi'ites, the Supreme Assembly of the Islamic Revolution of Iraq (SAIRI), Hakim's warning left no doubt that the American-British hope for a stable and docile Iraq run by a pro-American regime will not likely come true.

The SAIRI leader made the warning in a Tehran press conference attended by Iranian and foreign journalists. During the event, he stated that the Americans and the British sought to occupy Iraq to achieve their colonial
objectives, which are unachievable, as, according to him, "The world does not approve of any colonialism and occupation."

Hakim went beyond expressing resentment towards the war on Iraq to spell out the SAIRI's determination to resist its hoped-for objectives. He concluded, "Foreign troops must exit Iraq in the earliest [time]." However, if they chose to stay in Iraq, he added, "[the] Iraqi nation will resist by any possible means." According to him, failure to achieve their goal through peaceful means would make the Iraqis resort to violent ones. Hence, "We [Iraqis] will take peaceful measures in this respect at the beginning but we will use force later."

More at http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EC29Ak06.html

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There goes the "Shi'ite uprising" in Iraq...

Tomás
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And if you want to know why this is very bad news not only fot the Americans but also for all the other governments in the region, ask those who prevented General Schwarzkopf to go ahead and topple Saddam Hussein in 1991 (when it was easy) why they did it. In the process, you'll undertand also why Bush I incited the Shi'ites to rebellion and then let them be massacred
by Saddam's troops. And finally, you'll understand why hopes for an open-arms and American-flag-waving reception for the invading troops in southern Iraq was nothing but a pipedream at best or a lying deception at
worst, propaganda BS.

If even I knew that, how is it possible that they didn't? So ignorance and political naïveté is not an explanation. They could not possibly hope to attain their stated goals. The war won't be quick and there will be no peace
after it "ends". The most probable scenario is indeed a Shi'ite uprising *-- against the Americans, and not only in Iraq.

It is not a possibility that they do not know this, so they must have planned for this eventuality. What these plans are, we can only guess. But it doesn't look good for the rest of the Arab countries.

It's either that or they *are* complete morons. Whatever it is, they *must* be stopped.

Tomás
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Broker
29th March 2003, 01:19
45% of the country under US control, 25,000 Iraqi soldiers killed compared to about 50 coalition... I don't think we're afraid of the 7th Truck Division or the 4th Taxi Division.

We have surrounded their cities...the second they come out they're dead.

The soldiers are often hungry, without shoes, and not issued bullets. This isn't going to last longer than a month.

Tasha
29th March 2003, 02:32
Broker you are providing bullshit you also have no facts to back up your false claims. Please post in opposing idealogies if you are going to give such an exaggerated account.

Larissa
29th March 2003, 16:04
Quote: from Broker on 10:19 pm on Mar. 28, 2003
45% of the country under US control, 25,000 Iraqi soldiers killed compared to about 50 coalition... I don't think we're afraid of the 7th Truck Division or the 4th Taxi Division.

We have surrounded their cities...the second they come out they're dead.

The soldiers are often hungry, without shoes, and not issued bullets. This isn't going to last longer than a month.
And your soldiers are scared to death, and so are Bush and Blair.

Pete
29th March 2003, 16:07
And a General even said so.

Larissa
29th March 2003, 16:08
Plus, an update from another friend...

Most journalists are underestimating the deadly effect of massive aerial
bombardment on Iraqi troops - sorry - terrorist death squads. We are not
being told how many thousands have already been killed, but according to
U.S. Central Casting - sorry - Command, allied aircraft have been bombing
Iraqi positions unhindered for more than a week. Conquering Baghdad,
however, will be different from "shooting turkey" from the safety of the
Iraqi skies and U.S. aircraft carriers: it will require killing a great many
civilians. It won't look good on the BBC World Service, even if the BBC
continues its policy of showing as few images of civilian casualties as
possible. America's biggest cable news network has managed the impossible.
Its journalists have shown no such images whatever and have even managed to
keep a straight face when claiming that all civilian casualties have been
killed by the Iraqis. Stay brave, stay alert, and stay with Fox. Still, the
U.S.-led campaign to portray this war as a humanitarian effort is in full
swing. It is seen as the moral outrage that it is by everyone at the
headquarters of the U.N. High Commission for Refugees, the Red Cross, and
other international aid organizations. British troops are now distributing
food and water in front of TV cameras in Um Qasr. For the hungry and thirsty
in Um Qasr this is no doubt...food and water. But selling this war as a
humanitarian effort is turning out to be trickier than originally expected.
Last night, TV networks around the world showed images of some of the 55
men, women, and children injured and killed by a U.S. missile fired at
Baghdad yesterday. I don't know if domestic U.S. TV networks showed these
images.

Paul

Pete
29th March 2003, 16:13
Thank you for the updates Lara! And thank your friends as well :-)

Broker
29th March 2003, 21:30
Bush and Blair are afraid? We are a week in! No war goes according to plan, and this one is still on the right timeline. Who's afraid? That's absurd.

Wolfie
29th March 2003, 22:45
Well they have troops dying at a far higher rate than expected, they are up againt guerilla's which they didnt expect, they expected mass surrender, this hasnt happeed, they thought the people would support them, they havent and above that rummy said it would last 6 days.

Of course they are afraid!!!!