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VonClausewitz
24th March 2006, 18:46
Does anyone have any more information regarding this story ? I'd be interested to know if they're going to be deported to the UK, or perhaps just locked away somewhere unpleasant in the USA.


LONDON (Reuters) - A U.S. informant, testifying at the trial of seven Britons accused of planning bombings in the UK, told a London court on Friday one of the suspects had discussed poisoning beer for sale at British football matches.

Mohammed Babar, 31, a Pakistan-born American who has admitted terrorism-related offences in New York, said Waheed Mahmood also suggested setting up mobile hamburger vans and poisoning the food before handing it over.

Babar is the key prosecution witness against the suspects, accused of planning to use ammonium nitrate fertiliser to make bombs for use against targets such as pubs and clubs.

He has admitted in closed U.S. hearings to being an accomplice and trying to acquire the ingredients for what U.S. authorities call "the British Bomb plot", the court was told.

Babar said that Mahmood had raised the poison plots during discussions in Pakistan with himself and two of the other defendants, Anthony Garcia and Salahuddin Amin.

He said they could get jobs as barmen at soccer stadiums and use syringes to poison cans of beer.

TAKEAWAY POISON PLAN

Mahmood had also suggested distributing leaflets from a bogus takeaway restaurant.

"You would just have a phone number where they could call up and order food," Babar told the Old Bailey court Mahmood had said.

"What you could do is poison the food like that when they call for a takeout."

Babar, who said he wanted to fight U.S. troops in Afghanistan after the September 11, 2001 attacks, added it was also Mahmood who suggested that Britons who came over to Pakistan to fight in Afghanistan should strike back in Britain instead.

The Briton, who the court has heard worked for a gas contractor, earmarked utility plants and telephone networks as possible targets.

"He said we should strike in the UK and do operations over there," Babar told the jury.

"He had a very detailed knowledge of how things worked. He knew exactly the thing to hit. Whether it be telephone, electricity or gas, he seemed to have an idea of what he was talking about."

Earlier, Babar had told the court he had supplied computers to help al Qaeda.

He said he had given computers to Mahmood, whom he described as a contact for fellow Britons who wanted to receive training for jihad.

Seven Britons: Anthony Garcia; Jawad Akbar; Omar Khyam; his brother Shujah Mahmood; Waheed Mahmood; Nabeel Hussain and Salahuddin Amin are accused of conspiring with Canadian Momin Khawaja to cause an explosion "likely to endanger life".

Garcia, Khyam and Hussain are also charged with possessing 600 kg (1,300 lb) of ammonium nitrate fertiliser -- sometimes used to make bombs -- which detectives suspect was for terrorist purposes.

Khyam and Shujah Mahmood are also accused of possessing aluminium powder, also for suspected terrorist purposes.

They deny all charges and the trial continues.

ÑóẊîöʼn
25th March 2006, 02:50
What would they have hoped to achieve, apart from killing some poor folks who were peckish and fancying a drink? Honestly?

Ele'ill
25th March 2006, 02:55
The CIA's roots run deep. They were taught well.

VonClausewitz
25th March 2006, 09:07
It'd be all a part of the Holy Jihad against the decadent west I suppose... :lol:

TomRK1089
25th March 2006, 16:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2006, 03:04 AM
The CIA's roots run deep. They were taught well.
You're seriously suggesting the CIA is funding anti-West groups? Seems a bit Ludlumesque to me...

violencia.Proletariat
25th March 2006, 17:27
Originally posted by TomRK1089+Mar 25 2006, 12:12 PM--> (TomRK1089 @ Mar 25 2006, 12:12 PM)
[email protected] 25 2006, 03:04 AM
The CIA's roots run deep. They were taught well.
You're seriously suggesting the CIA is funding anti-West groups? Seems a bit Ludlumesque to me... [/b]
The CIA created most of the groups back in the 80's. ;) We sure hated those commies and would fund anyone to fight them.

VonClausewitz
25th March 2006, 17:46
So it's fairly safe to say, that now the hated red is fairly beaten, the Americans have stopped funding people that want to gut them all alive ?

violencia.Proletariat
25th March 2006, 21:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2006, 01:55 PM
So it's fairly safe to say, that now the hated red is fairly beaten, the Americans have stopped funding people that want to gut them all alive ?
No. The US government will fund whoever will help them with their goals, as long as they arent leftists. Are the years of funding brutal dictators all over Latin America not proof of this? The government doesnt care about their pawns idealogy, as long as they kill the people it doesnt like. :(

bezdomni
25th March 2006, 21:13
Nate, I think you've got it a bit wrong.

The US did fund the anti-west groups to fight the communists all through the 60s, 70s and 80s - I don't think they are funding them anymore though. The groups have effectively been given power by the US, now the US realizes that it was a big mistake.

It's like Frankenstein's monster. He creates it thinking it can be controlled, but then it goes on a rampage and eventually kills him.

redstar2000
26th March 2006, 03:54
It may be an "urban myth", I don't know.

But I've read that during the prohibition years in the U.S., some "hard core" prohibitionists sold wood alcohol as "gin"...which is, of course, a very deadly poison.

Sinners "deserve to die", don't they? :o

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bcbm
26th March 2006, 07:04
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2006, 03:22 PM
It's like Frankenstein's monster. He creates it thinking it can be controlled, but then it goes on a rampage and eventually kills him.
I don't recall the story playing out quite like this...

Capitalist Lawyer
26th March 2006, 18:54
But what if some supporters of U.S. imperialism were to consume this poison beer? Wouldn't that be a good thing?

Intifada
26th March 2006, 19:26
Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 26 2006, 07:03 PM
But what if some supporters of U.S. imperialism were to consume this poison beer? Wouldn't that be a good thing?
Yes.

ÑóẊîöʼn
26th March 2006, 20:01
Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 26 2006, 07:03 PM
But what if some supporters of U.S. imperialism were to consume this poison beer? Wouldn't that be a good thing?
The only problem being that you can't exactly give a survey of one's socio-political political beliefs before carrying out this sort of attack. That is why I oppose this sort of action.

A soldier can leave or desert his army. It's much harder for a civilian to leave their country.