What do you guys think/know about the PRD?

[MexAmLeft]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_the_...atic_Revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_the_Democratic_Revolution)




any hope from these guys?

[Tekun]

Don't count on it man...they're like the American democrat
They feel bad for exploiting and making money off ppl's work, but they continue to do it
Lopez Obrador is like the rest of those crooks and liars, while campaigning they talk about cleaning house and helping the poor
But once they're in, they seem to forget their promises

I'd vote for el Delegado 0 (SubComandante Marcos)

El PRD no tiene nada de revolucionario! :lol:

[BuyOurEverything]

Um, I don't think he's running.

[MeTaLhEaD]

well revolutionary or not!

Chavez supports Obrador

[Gryphon]

Some of them are false socialists, and the party acts like the PRI. They don't have a chance with all the scandals, unless they do like the PRI by frauding the elections.

[Cheung Mo]

All the (relatively...It is Mexican politics) non-corrupt and social democratic members of the PRI abandoned it to form the PRD.

It's about as left-wing as my country's NDP (which tends to have everything from borderline Marxists with absolutely no power to people who make Tony Blair look like Hugo Chavez who run provincial governments) or the Vermont Progressive Party (which has nowhere near the reactionary contigent that the NDP has), but it's a much better choice than either PRI or PAN and it's certainly not as conservative as the DNC.

[overthrowthebeast726]

I was reading somewhere about a new party, Alternativa. I think it was "social-democratic"...I read it in a Spanish newspaper.

[travisdandy2000]

We really ought to throw our support behind the Zapatista efforts to establish a non -electoral left alternative.

[Nicky Scarfo]

Don't count on it man...they're like the American democrat

I wouldn't go that far...


All the (relatively...It is Mexican politics) non-corrupt and social democratic members of the PRI abandoned it to form the PRD.

It's about as left-wing as my country's NDP (which tends to have everything from borderline Marxists with absolutely no power to people who make Tony Blair look like Hugo Chavez who run provincial governments) or the Vermont Progressive Party (which has nowhere near the reactionary contigent that the NDP has), but it's a much better choice than either PRI or PAN and it's certainly not as conservative as the DNC.

I think that's a better description. They're basically a mildly left Social Democratic Party.

[Guerrilla22]

either or, they're not about to reverse Mexico's neoliberal economy or change much of anyhting else that the left would object to.

[Cheung Mo]

Give them a chance...

They can't do any worse than the Clericalists or the Entrenched Ones.

[bolshevik butcher]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 03:04 AM
We really ought to throw our support behind the Zapatista efforts to establish a non -electoral left alternative.
You see I admire the Zapatistas, but through theyre isolationists tactic in this current election theyve made themselves an irrelevancy.

[Cheung Mo]

There will not be a revolution in Mexico anytime soon: Clericalist, neo-liberal, and other reactionary ideologies are too powerful in much of the country (although I'd say that it's not quite as bad as the Philippines or as Quebec was decades ago under Duplessis).

We should therefore do what we can to support the PRD electorally and the Zapatistas on the ground in the hopes that the former can open the minds and hearts of Mexicans while the latter can create a revolutionary climate.

[Guerrilla22]

They're expected to win the next preidential elections, it will be interesting to see if US-Mexico relations sour the way US-Venezuela relations have.

[Cheung Mo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 08:19 PM
They're expected to win the next preidential elections, it will be interesting to see if US-Mexico relations sour the way US-Venezuela relations have.
I hope for the sake of the Mexican people that they do.

And I hope my country soon falls under NDP control if only so that it would drive Washington crazy: While the NDP itself may be a reformist party typical identified with left-liberalism and social democracy (Hell, they don't even support something as minor as pulling out of WIPO, which would be a great victory for cyberliberties and a nice symbolic snubbing of the multinational elite...I'm right of most of this site (but left of most other places) and more reformist than revolutionary, identifying quite strongly with Agnes Macphail, Jean Lesage, and Tommy Douglas when getting into Canadian political history, but at least do something to show that you're not Fibranos in orange paint and worthy of my supprt.), the conditions required for them to form a majority government at the federal level would probably border on revolutionary...But nah, we're too fucking comfortable here. (And also too stupid to realise that we won't say that way if the machinations of Washington, Beijing, and the multinational elite come to fruition.)...If Quebeckers didn't riot against the right-wing's bullshit victory in 1966, nothing's going to go down here...lol