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вор в законе
14th March 2006, 21:18
DUBAI (Reuters) - Israeli forces have arrested Palestinian militant Ahmed Saadat after a raid on a jail where he was imprisoned, Arab televisions said.

Al Arabiya and Al Jazeera channels quoted reports which said that Saadat and other members of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) were now in the custody of Israeli forces.

Al Jazeera said Saadat had surrendered.


Reuters (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-03-14T170458Z_01_L14730342_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-PFLP-ARRESTS.xml)

вор в законе
14th March 2006, 21:22
PFLP wing says Israel to pay for Saadat arrest

DUBAI, March 14 (Reuters) - The military wing of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine said Israel would pay dearly for the arrest of the group's leader on Tuesday.

"If comrade Ahmed Saadat is harmed, we vow that the price will be very high for Israel," an official of the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades told Al Arabiya television by telephone.

"We will respond and respond strongly whether he is harmed or not," said the official who was identified by the alias Abu Jbarah.

Israeli forces stormed a West Bank prison with tanks and bulldozers on Tuesday to seize Saadat, who is accused of killing an Israeli minister in 2001. Saadat surrendered to Israeli forces eventually.

"Israeli leaders know that we have assassinated ... Minister (Rehavam) Zeevi. If they harm Ahmed Saadat and his comrades we will shake the ground under the Zionist's feet," the Brigades' official told Al Arabiya.

"We reiterate that we are free from any truce with the occupation forces," he said.

Reuters (http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L14744776.htm)


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Info on Ahmed Saadat (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1763912.stm)

The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) (Arabic الجبهة الشعبية لتحرير فلسطين - al-jabhah al-sha`biyyah li-tahrīr filastīn) is a Marxist-Leninist, nationalist Palestinian political and military organization, founded in 1967. It has consistently been the second-largest of the groups forming the Palestinian Liberation Organization (the largest being Fatah), but now has only limited popular support in the Palestinian Territories. It has generally taken a hard line on Palestinian national aspirations, opposing the more moderate stance of Fatah. It opposed the Oslo Accords and was for long opposed to the idea of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but in 1999 came to an agreement with the PLO leadership on the pursuit of negotiations with Israel.

Emperor Ronald Reagan
14th March 2006, 23:31
The PFLP have now been put into a position where they will have to retaliate against this bizarre and barbaric attack by Israel and when the PFLP attacks who will Israel attack back in retaliation? Hamas. They are so fucking transparent and they are itching for more war and more death and more instability and the stupid Americans and British are like lapdogs for them. This is the theatre of the fucking absurd.

These latest actions by Israel should prove to any person with half of a pea brain just how barbaric that shitty little apartheid country is. It does not even pretend for the sake of the international community to be anything other than a savage fascist Nazi regime.

Phalanx
15th March 2006, 00:40
You're a fucking moron if you honestly believe Israel is like Nazi Germany.

If Israel was even close, the body count today would have been much higher. What Israel is doing is ethnic cleansing, but isn't genocide. Genocide is the killing of an entire people, and during the 50+ year conflict there has been 50-70,000 Palestinian fatalities. In Darfur there has been an estimated 180,000 deaths in three years.

Emperor Ronald Reagan
15th March 2006, 01:49
Without going into the veracity of your figures, I will instead contest your assertion that resemblance of Nazi Germany means body counts. Resemblance means the policies of the Israeli state with regards to its behavior in Palestine, and their similarities to the strategies employed by the Nazi regime in Warsaw (and elsewhere). If you don't "honestly believe that," then you're the "fucking moron" - not me.

Phalanx
15th March 2006, 02:04
Do you see death camps in Palestine? Are Arabs forced to be sterilized?

It's true, the Israeli state is very discriminatory and can be quite ruthless. But is it as bad as most countries of the world? I don't think so.

Believe it or not, Israel doesn't kill as many Arabs as they can. The Israeli government no doubt places little regard for Palestinian lives, but their policy isn't to kill as many Palestinians as possible.

Emperor Ronald Reagan
15th March 2006, 02:14
Israels strategy; and believe me, they have a strategy and it's been working perfectly for years already. Kill and humiliate as many Palestinians, leaders or not, to provoke acts of reprisal so they have an excuse to conquer more land than they already illegaly occupy.

Phalanx
15th March 2006, 02:18
Really. I guess that's a good guess.

I could say that Hamas would be around anyway because they want every inch of Israel as well. Don't forget that Israel has that land because their neighbors were threatening to wipe them from the map, so they attacked.

Emperor Ronald Reagan
15th March 2006, 02:45
Originally posted by Chinghis Khan
Don't forget that Israel has that land because their neighbors were threatening to wipe them from the map, so they attacked.

Don't forget that Israel has that land because they actually wiped Palestine off the map.

Phalanx
15th March 2006, 02:49
If my history knowledge is correct, Palestine was the first to attack during the 1948 War.

вор в законе
15th March 2006, 04:58
Comrades let's not make an issue about this. We all agree that Israel is oppressing the palestinian people with the blessings of the ''west''.

Solidarity to our comrades and their movement in Palestine who are facing many difficulties.

Fascist-Hunter
15th March 2006, 05:24
Solidarity to our comrades and their movement in Palestine who are facing many difficulties

Yes. But also solidarity to our comrades in Israel and to the familys of the people who died in attacks by suicide bombers.

вор в законе
15th March 2006, 06:53
Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 05:27 AM

Solidarity to our comrades and their movement in Palestine who are facing many difficulties

Yes. But also solidarity to our comrades in Israel and to the familys of the people who died in attacks by suicide bombers.
I second. :)

Emperor Ronald Reagan
15th March 2006, 07:34
Originally posted by Chinghis [email protected] 15 2006, 02:52 AM
If my history knowledge is correct, Palestine was the first to attack during the 1948 War.

Your history knowledge is dishonest at best.

"By May 1948 Zionist forces had already invaded and occupied large parts of the land which had been allocated to the Palestinians by the UN Partition Plan. In January 1948 Israel did not yet exist.

The History of the Palmach which was released in portions in the 1950s (and in full in 1972) details the efforts made to attack the Palestinian Arabs and secure more territory than alloted to the Jewish state by the UN Partition Plan (Kibbutz Menchad Archive, Palmach Archive, Efal, Israel).

Already, Zionist forces were implementing their "Plan Dalet" to:

"control the area given to us [the Zionists] by the U.N. in addition to areas occupied by Arabs which were outside these borders and the setting up of forces to counter the possible invasion of Arab armies after May 15" (Qurvot 1948, p. 16, which covers the operations of Haganah and Palmach, see also Ha Sepher Ha Palmach, The Book of Palmach).

Operation Nachson, 1 April 1948
Operation Harel, 15 April 1948
Operation Misparayim, 21 April 1948
Operation Chametz, 27 April 1948
Operation Jevuss, 27 April 1948
Operation Yiftach, 28 April 1948
Operation Matateh, 3 May 1948
Operation Maccabi, 7 May 1948

Operation Gideon, 11 May 1948
Operation Barak, 12 May 1948
Operation Ben Ami, 14 May 1948
Operation Pitchfork, 14 May 1948
Operation Schfifon, 14 May 1948

The operations 1-8 indicate operations carried out before the entry of the Arab forces inside the areas allotted by the UN to the Arab state. It has to be noted that of thirteen specific full-scale operations under Plan Dalet eight were carried out outside the area "given" by the UN to the Zionists.

Following is a list drawn from the New York Times of the major military operations the Zionists mounted before the British evacuated Palestine and before the Arab forces entered Palestine:

Qazaza (21 Dec. 1947)
Sa'sa (16 Feb. 1948)
Haifa (21 Feb. 1948)
Salameh (1 March 1948)
Biyar Adas (6 March 1948)
Qana (13 March 1948)
Qastal (4 April 1948)
Deir Yassin (9 April 1948)
Lajjun (15 April 1948)
Saris (17 April 1948)
Tiberias (20 April 1948)
Haifa (22 April 1948)
Jerusalem (25 April 1948)
Jaffa (26 April 1948)
Acre (27 April 1948)
Jerusalem (1 May 1948)
Safad (7 May 1948)
Beisan (9 May 1948).

David Ben-Gurion confirms this in an address delivered to American Zionists in Jerusalem on 3 September 1950:

"Until the British left, no Jewish settlement, however remote, was entered or seized by the Arabs, while the Haganah, under severe and frequent attack, captured many Arab positions and liberated Tiberias and Haifa, Jaffa and Safad" (Ben-Gurion, Rebirth and Destiny of Israel (N.Y.: Philosophical Library, 1954, p. 530).

Although late PM Ben-Gurion speaks of "liberating" Jaffa it was alloted to the Palestinians by the UN Partition Plan.

Late PM Menachem Begin adds:

"In the months preceding the Arab invasion, and while the five Arab states were conducting preparations, we continued to make sallies into Arab territory. The conquest of Jaffa stands out as an event of first-rate importance in the struggle for Hebrew independence early in May, on the eve [that is, before the alleged Arab invasion] of the invasion by the five Arab states" (Menachem Begin, The Revolt, Nash, 1972, p. 348)

On 12 December 1948 David Ben Gurion confirmed the fact that the Zionists started the war in 1948:

"As April began, our War of Independence swung decisively from defense to attack. Operation 'Nachson'...was launched with the capture of Arab Hulda near where we stand today and of Deir Muheisin and culminated in the storming of Qastel, the great hill fortress near Jerusalem" (Ben Gurion, Rebirth and Destiny of Israel (N.Y.: Philosophical Library, 1954, p. 106).

Israeli historians have themselves refuted the claim that the Arabs started the 1948 war. Benny Morris uncovered a report from the Israeli Defense Force Intelligence Branch (30 June 1948) that shows a deliberate Israeli policy to attack the Arabs should they resist and expel the Palestinians (Benny Morris, "The Causes and Character of the Arab Exodus from Palestine: the Israel Defense Forces Intelligence Branch Analysis of June 1948", Middle Eastern Studies, XXII, January 1986, pp. 5-19). "

Source: Arjan El Fassed

jaster
15th March 2006, 20:11
nonetheless the day of the Popular front for the liberation of palistine is gone.

Phalanx
16th March 2006, 01:08
Originally posted by Emperor Ronald Reagan+Mar 15 2006, 07:37 AM--> (Emperor Ronald Reagan @ Mar 15 2006, 07:37 AM)
Chinghis [email protected] 15 2006, 02:52 AM
If my history knowledge is correct, Palestine was the first to attack during the 1948 War.

Your history knowledge is dishonest at best.

"By May 1948 Zionist forces had already invaded and occupied large parts of the land which had been allocated to the Palestinians by the UN Partition Plan. In January 1948 Israel did not yet exist.

The History of the Palmach which was released in portions in the 1950s (and in full in 1972) details the efforts made to attack the Palestinian Arabs and secure more territory than alloted to the Jewish state by the UN Partition Plan (Kibbutz Menchad Archive, Palmach Archive, Efal, Israel). [/b]

I think your history knowledge likes to pick what suits you best.

Of course the Haganah was already fighting Palestinian militias. Palestine had been experiencing communal warfare between Arabs and Jews since 1947. This example only shows the tip of the iceburg of the situation.

The Haganah and the Arab militias were raiding and counter-raiding each other's civilian population and the British as well.