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Janus
14th March 2006, 13:20
BBC News
Israeli troops have taken control of a prison in the West Bank town of Jericho, destroying its walls with bulldozers and killing a guard.
They are trying to seize militant Ahmed Saadat, blamed for the assassination of a minister. He refused to surrender.
Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has blamed the withdrawal of UK and US prison monitors for the raid.
The Israeli raid in Jericho has sparked a series of clashes and protests in Gaza, and at least one kidnap.
In related events:
The International Red Cross has confirmed that its director in Gaza has been kidnapped.
A British cultural centre in Gaza has been set ablaze and an EU compound stormed.
Hundreds of people in Gaza and Jericho have been demonstrating against the Israeli raid.
Palestinian militants from the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades in Gaza City have warned US and UK nationals to leave the Palestinian territories immediately.
Reports from Jericho said Mr Saadat, of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and several of his colleagues were refusing to come out of the prison.
Al-Jazeera TV has broadcast a telephone interview with Mr Saadat in which he says he is in his prison cell and will not surrender.
Mr Saadat is normally guarded by British and US prison warders, in addition to Palestinian jailers, but they were withdrawn on Tuesday for what they described as security reasons.
Mahmoud Abbas has condemned the raid and said the US and UK warders were responsible for the prisoners' safety.
He said the withdrawal of the British and US guards who normally observe the prison was a grave violation of agreements with the Palestinians.
British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said the PA had ignored repeated British requests for guarantees regarding the security of the prison guards.
Threat
Israeli troops are reported to have threatened to kill the prisoners if they do not surrender
Reports from the scene said 50 jeeps and three tanks pushed into the oasis town in the Jordan valley, as two helicopters hovered overhead.
The army later brought a large armoured bulldozer to the prison, which proceeded to demolish walls.
One prison policeman is reported to have been killed by gunfire and there are reports of 18 Palestinians wounded.
Mr Saadat was arrested in connection with the killing of right-wing Tourism Minister Rehavam Zeevi by PFLP gunmen in 2001, an attack which itself was to avenge the assassination of Mr Saadat's predecessor by Israel.
Mr Saadat has been in Palestinian custody since early in 2002 - being moved to Jericho under international supervision in a deal to lift Israel's siege of Yasser Arafat's Muqataa compound in May of that year.
The following month the Palestinian High Court ordered his release, saying there was no evidence to link him to the Zeevi assassination.
Israeli officials said Mr Saadat would be killed if he was freed, and the Palestinian cabinet blocked the release.
il Commie
14th March 2006, 14:00
This is Ulmert's elections propaganda.
Sad but true.
piet11111
14th March 2006, 14:26
its nothing short of a miracle the israeli's manage to get away with the things they do.
they are pissing all over the palestinian authority all the time :angry:
xprol
14th March 2006, 14:36
These mad Zionist hooligans have been set loose by Brit and US imperialism to smite the Palestinians again, election or no election. The only 'reason' they need is the 'reason' of war mongering imperialism. There will never be a two state solution to be sad about. Forget it. The international proletariat should step up a campaign to boycott isolate this pariah state and finish it off. If the uninvited settlers want to stay and live under the democratic will of a Palestinian state they would probably be welcomed. Otherwise get back to Europe and the US where they came from.
piet11111
14th March 2006, 14:42
Originally posted by
[email protected] 14 2006, 02:39 PM
These mad Zionist hooligans have been set loose by Brit and US imperialism to smite the Palestinians again, election or no election. The only 'reason' they need is the 'reason' of war mongering imperialism. There will never be a two state solution to be sad about. Forget it. The international proletariat should step up a campaign to boycott isolate this pariah state and finish it off. If the uninvited settlers want to stay and live under the democratic will of a Palestinian state they would probably be welcomed. Otherwise get back to Europe and the US where they came from.
i am afraid the only solution is israel losing some future war and the country being conquered entirely.
for asfar as i am concerned the israeli's blew their right for a country of their own.
il Commie
14th March 2006, 14:52
xprol,
There will never be a two state solution
Ofcourse there will be. But only if we'll not use pessimistic sayings like that.
The international proletariat should step up a campaign to boycott isolate this pariah state and finish it off
Boycotts are not a good strategy. They hurt the workers just as much as they hurt the ruling classes.
Otherwise get back to Europe and the US where they came from
Oh please.
Throwing the jews back to Europe is not an option even in the eyes of the most extreme palestinians.
Niall
14th March 2006, 15:25
Originally posted by
[email protected] 14 2006, 02:29 PM
its nothing short of a miracle the israeli's manage to get away with the things they do.
they are pissing all over the palestinian authority all the time :angry:
its an absolute disgrace
Intifada
14th March 2006, 16:01
And then people whine about Palestinian terrorism...
xprol
14th March 2006, 16:12
Originally posted by il
[email protected] 14 2006, 02:55 PM
xprol,
There will never be a two state solution
Ofcourse there will be. But only if we'll not use pessimistic sayings like that.
The international proletariat should step up a campaign to boycott isolate this pariah state and finish it off
Boycotts are not a good strategy. They hurt the workers just as much as they hurt the ruling classes.
Otherwise get back to Europe and the US where they came from
Oh please.
Throwing the jews back to Europe is not an option even in the eyes of the most extreme palestinians.
il commi,
Occupied Palestine can never be anything but an armed outpost camp of degenerate imperialism. It came into existence against the tide of of history when all other colonial outposts were being abandoned or retreated from. Like the settler occupied Ireland and apartheid South Africa it is an anachronism, a freak state who's only purpose is to create grief in the region. Zion-land itself has never had the slightest intention of living in peace with it 'neighbors' unless to set them against each other. That is its task, its duty to US and British imperialism. The 'two state solution' is pure smoke and mirrors to try and confuse workers in the west but only succeeding in pulling the wool over the eyes of the middle class 'lefts' who have fallen in behind the Stalinist 'peaceful coexistence' recognition of 'Israel' confusion crap. It is not viable for the international working class and will have to go. The Europeans and North Americans are invading land robbers, murderers, ethnic cleansers. How are the Palestinians ever supposed to live in peace with them unless it is as prisoners in ghettos surrounded by their persecutors?
piet11111
14th March 2006, 16:13
Originally posted by
[email protected] 14 2006, 04:04 PM
And then people whine about Palestinian terrorism...
the only problem i have with the palestinians is that they bomb civilians.
but if i look at things extremely technically every israeli citizen is conscripted in the army at a certain age and remains elegible to be called to arms and because of that every israeli is a viable military target.
the palestinians dont have the means to fight the IDF head on and as such dont have much of a choice in how they fight.
israel however has every imaginable means of attacking their opponents yet they use attack helicopters and F-16's to attack individuals in populated areas regardless of innocent casuality's.
Niall
14th March 2006, 16:14
i had planned to go to palestine for the summer, but that may have to be put off now
Intifada
14th March 2006, 16:18
Originally posted by piet11111+Mar 14 2006, 04:16 PM--> (piet11111 @ Mar 14 2006, 04:16 PM)
[email protected] 14 2006, 04:04 PM
And then people whine about Palestinian terrorism...
the only problem i have with the palestinians is that they bomb civilians.
but if i look at things extremely technically every israeli citizen is conscripted in the army at a certain age and remains elegible to be called to arms and because of that every israeli is a viable military target.
the palestinians dont have the means to fight the IDF head on and as such dont have much of a choice in how they fight.
israel however has every imaginable means of attacking their opponents yet they use attack helicopters and F-16's to attack individuals in populated areas regardless of innocent casuality's. [/b]
The morality of suicide bombings is another issue.
The Israelis, and the international community, must understand why such a tactic is being used.
The state of Israel forges the enemy it claims to be fighting through the illegal occupation and the many atrocities it has committed and continues to commit to this day.
The mere fact is that peace will not be brought about until there is a complete end to Israeli aggression.
Niall
14th March 2006, 16:21
extremely suspicious that the brits and yanks disappeared just before the event took place
bolshevik butcher
14th March 2006, 16:23
This is a blatant assault on an oppressed people, by the Israeli ruling class. However, there is anothe oppressed force in this conflict, the Israeli working class. For too long have socialists taken this conflict in the beugorise sense of one nationa against another. The Israeli and Palistinean working classes must unite and realise together there struggles are collectivley against both the zionist state and middle class clerics like Hamas.
Comrade Yastrebkov
14th March 2006, 16:24
Originally posted by
[email protected] 14 2006, 04:16 PM
the only problem i have with the palestinians is that they bomb civilians.
but if i look at things extremely technically every israeli citizen is conscripted in the army at a certain age and remains elegible to be called to arms and because of that every israeli is a viable military target.
Who else can they bomb? IDF personnel are protected in compounds and in tanks and APCs. The fact that every Israeli is conscripted and can be called up for service doesnt come into the equation, as palestinian militants often kill women and children, however it is not them who started this conflict, and the only reason this is happening is becasue there is no alternative for them.
piet11111
14th March 2006, 16:34
Originally posted by Comrade Yastrebkov+Mar 14 2006, 04:27 PM--> (Comrade Yastrebkov @ Mar 14 2006, 04:27 PM)
[email protected] 14 2006, 04:16 PM
the only problem i have with the palestinians is that they bomb civilians.
but if i look at things extremely technically every israeli citizen is conscripted in the army at a certain age and remains elegible to be called to arms and because of that every israeli is a viable military target.
Who else can they bomb? IDF personnel are protected in compounds and in tanks and APCs. The fact that every Israeli is conscripted and can be called up for service doesnt come into the equation, as palestinian militants often kill women and children, however it is not them who started this conflict, and the only reason this is happening is becasue there is no alternative for them. [/b]
women are also conscripted to my knowledge.
and children unfortunatly will some day become soldiers aswell.
the palestinians dont have the luxery to face 1 single uniformed opponent instead they face an entire population that can be turned into soldiers against them.
Niall
14th March 2006, 16:36
Originally posted by Comrade Yastrebkov+Mar 14 2006, 04:27 PM--> (Comrade Yastrebkov @ Mar 14 2006, 04:27 PM)
[email protected] 14 2006, 04:16 PM
the only problem i have with the palestinians is that they bomb civilians.
but if i look at things extremely technically every israeli citizen is conscripted in the army at a certain age and remains elegible to be called to arms and because of that every israeli is a viable military target.
Who else can they bomb? IDF personnel are protected in compounds and in tanks and APCs. The fact that every Israeli is conscripted and can be called up for service doesnt come into the equation, as palestinian militants often kill women and children, however it is not them who started this conflict, and the only reason this is happening is becasue there is no alternative for them. [/b]
i think you both make a fair point, but it can be hard for people to support people who bomb women and children. I know its a war and innocents do get killed, however not everyone is as open to this tactic as you seem to be CY
bolshevik butcher
14th March 2006, 16:36
The same could be said of the Israelis yet you still oppose the killing of Palistinean civillians. Suicide bombs are wrong. They create enemies and kill innocent working class Israelis.
Niall
14th March 2006, 16:41
Originally posted by Clenched
[email protected] 14 2006, 04:39 PM
The same could be said of the Israelis yet you still oppose the killing of Palistinean civillians. Suicide bombs are wrong. They create enemies and kill innocent working class Israelis.
there should be a better alternative to Suicide Bombs, but at the minute the palestineans are unable/unwilling to come up with one. I dont believe in bombs unless they are used against specific military buildings/compounds. Otherwise they are too indiscriminate
xprol
14th March 2006, 18:26
Originally posted by Clenched
[email protected] 14 2006, 04:26 PM
This is a blatant assault on an oppressed people, by the Israeli ruling class. However, there is anothe oppressed force in this conflict, the Israeli working class. For too long have socialists taken this conflict in the beugorise sense of one nationa against another. The Israeli and Palistinean working classes must unite and realise together there struggles are collectivley against both the zionist state and middle class clerics like Hamas.
"This is a blatant assault on an oppressed people, by the Israeli ruling class.
However, there is anothe oppressed force in this conflict, the Israeli working class. For too long have socialists taken this conflict in the beugorise sense of one nationa against another. The Israeli and Palistinean working classes must unite and realise together there struggles are collectivley against both the zionist state and middle class clerics like Hamas."
This "The Israeli and Palestinian working classes must unite," is sadly typical of the 'left' instrumentalists fantasy world. "must unite"? Without the DEFEAT of the Zionist state this childish wishful thinking only deepens confusion among workers in the 'west' and encourages imperialism. But the truly reactionary limp slap of the deluded 'left' comes at the end, telling us that their is some equivalence between the Nazi Zionists and the anti-imperialist revolutionaries of the hard pressed but courageous Hamas, who become more tactically and politically astute with every day that passes. Compare this fighting spirit which has to substitute for communist leadership with the stinking reformist compromisers that make up the almost every 'left' party in Europe and the US.
bolshevik butcher
14th March 2006, 18:50
Hamas were set up and funded by Israel to counteract against the secualr nationali liberationist PLO. Please dont give me your anti-imperialist nonscense, what good are they to the Palistiniean working class? Any good they do is conincedental and it is not in their class interest to work for the Palistinean working class. I am sad about this as the PFLP was a good group that fought for the Palistniean working class. Now why do you feel that the zionists cannot be defeated in part by the Israeli working class?
Vinny Rafarino
14th March 2006, 19:43
The support shown by "leftists" for reactionary groups like Hamas and Zionism is completely anti-revolutionary.
You kids should be ashamed to call yourselves leftists.
bolshevik butcher
14th March 2006, 19:56
I agree. It's ridiculous extreme popular frontism. Who next, mugabi? Kim jing il? saddam hussein?
jaster
14th March 2006, 20:11
another stort about israel and palistinian prisons...
During the 2nd intifada, the creation of the PA prison network was complete, and they now held the majority of theives and other civil offenders that dident go to the israeli torture cells in israel itself. well a anyway, israel began to shell ramallah and ramallah (where the prison was located) (and by the way, this would be considered a war crime as laid down in the neuremburg trials), the the PA administratyors decides the make the call to releas the prisoners, as keeping them in there would be tantamount to murder. of course they were blasted for this, Israelis and american alike blasted the PA for releasing these 'terrorists'.
The Grey Blur
14th March 2006, 20:19
Originally posted by Bill
[email protected] 14 2006, 07:46 PM
The support shown by "leftists" for reactionary groups like Hamas and Zionism is completely anti-revolutionary.
You kids should be ashamed to call yourselves leftists.
Because it's the Socialists who are provising basic healthcare, food and clothes to the Palestinians... :rolleyes:
Janus
14th March 2006, 22:25
Update from BBC News
Israeli forces have captured a senior Palestinian militant leader after storming the jail where he was held in the West Bank town of Jericho.
The raid began early on Tuesday, shortly after UK and US monitors left the Palestinian-run prison complaining about lax security arrangements.
Dozens of Palestinians, including Ahmed Saadat, surrendered to the Israeli troops after dark.
Angry protests and a wave of revenge abductions followed the raid.
Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has condemned Britain and the US for withdrawing the monitors and said they were responsible for the prisoners' safety.
UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said Britain had repeatedly raised concerns about the security conditions in the jail and gave a final warning about the monitors' withdrawal on 8 March.
An Israeli foreign ministry official said the army raid was necessary after Mr Abbas said Mr Saadat and other militants were about to be freed.
Deadly raid
"The operation was completed with success," the head of Israeli central command, General Yair Naveh, said.
An Israeli official said Mr Saadat and four other militants from his Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine would be put on trial for the killing of Israeli Tourism Minister Rehavam Zeevi in 2001.
Earlier, two Palestinians were killed when scores of Israeli troops backed by tanks and helicopters burst into the Jericho prison compound.
Unrest broke out across the Palestinian territories after the raid began, much of it directed against Western civilians.
At least seven foreign aid workers and teachers were kidnapped, some of whom were later released.
Palestinian gunman was shot dead by security forces during the abduction of two French citizens and a Korean from outside a hotel in the centre of Gaza City.
A Swiss national who works for the International Committee of the Red Cross was seized by gunmen at his office in Gaza.
Gunmen set fire to a British Council cultural centre in Gaza City, among other violent attacks on UK-owned property.
Palestinian police ferried convoys of foreigners out of the Gaza Strip. A crossing with Egypt was closed for the day after EU monitors were evacuated over fears for their safety.
Thousands of Palestinians led by dozens of gunmen firing in the air marched through the streets of Gaza City in the evening.
'Grave violation'
BBC correspondent David Chazan says the raid has sparked a major diplomatic crisis between Britain, the US and the Palestinians.
Mr Abbas, who is president of the Palestinian Authority, called the withdrawal of the prison monitors a grave violation of agreements.
Speaking in the UK parliament, Mr Straw confirmed that Britain had informed both the Palestinian and the Israeli authorities about the imminent withdrawal.
Mr Saadat has been in Palestinian custody since early in 2002 - and was moved to Jericho under international supervision in a deal to lift Israel's siege of Yasser Arafat's Muqataa compound in Ramallah in May of that year.
The following month the Palestinian High Court ordered his release, saying there was no evidence to link him to the Zeevi assassination.
He was elected to parliament earlier this year, and both Mr Abbas and the militant election victors, Hamas, had spoken of releasing him soon.
Emperor Ronald Reagan
14th March 2006, 23:04
Can someone tell me why when it is relatively calm in the West Bank, Israel does something like this to agitate the Palestinians? Has anyone ever heard of such a thing? Of attacking a prison to kill the prisoners inside of it? The Israelis sink to new Nazi lows every single day while Americans and British look the other way. The U.S. and the UK are a fucking joke sucking on Israeli dick.
xprol
15th March 2006, 01:15
"Hamas were set up and funded by Israel to counteract against the secualr nationali liberationist PLO."
And you can be sure that the Zionists are regretting it now. As you are a pal of the PLO can you ask them to give back all the cash they nicked from the Palestinian working class.
"Please dont give me your anti-imperialist nonscense,"
Not me pal, it was the anti-imperialist Palestinian "working class" who turfed out the 'two state' PLO and gave Hamas a landslide victory. Or did the Zionists do that as well?
"what good are they to the Palistiniean working class?"
Well the "working class" seem very sure of them. You really are against working class democracy when it wrecks your idealist reformist schemes, aren't you?
"Any good they do is conincedental and it is not in their class interest to work for the Palistinean working class."
Well if they don't nick the cash, that would be in the "interest" off the poverty stricken workers and their families, wouldn't it?
"I am sad about this as the PFLP was a good group that fought for the Palistniean working class."
Ye, fought for their money.
"Now why do you feel that the zionists cannot be defeated in part by the Israeli working class?"
Because most of them are under the wing of one Zionist party gang or another and until the state is weakened, by economic crisis and anti-imperialist national liberation revolution, they have to much to lose living off exploitation and as mercenaries for Zionist and US imperialism. Still, the way the US economy is going their chance to break with Zionism might come before to long. But the sharp point of this struggle is Hamas because communist degeneracy in the region has little or no support. Only reevaluating the bankrupt Stalinist 'two state' 'peaceful coexistence' idiocy in the region can clear the way for the revival of Leninist revolutionary struggle.
piet11111
15th March 2006, 07:49
Originally posted by Bill
[email protected] 14 2006, 07:46 PM
The support shown by "leftists" for reactionary groups like Hamas and Zionism is completely anti-revolutionary.
You kids should be ashamed to call yourselves leftists.
i want those two to destroy one another.
but hamas is not strong enough to destroy israel and israel is not allowed to destroy hamas because its imperialist master keeps a short leash.
the only solution to this problem is 1 final violent conflict that destroys one side.
and since i consider the israeli's as the persons that started the conflict and because its them that are using missile strikes against a population that has no choice in how they defend themselves then i prever the state of israel being destroyed once and for all.
the middle east is the most dangerous hotspot in the world and those country's are capable of using WMD's (biological and chemical but israel has nukes and iran is getting those)
i prever and end to the threat of war there before they all have nuclear weapons.
Niall
15th March 2006, 08:56
Originally posted by Bill
[email protected] 14 2006, 07:46 PM
The support shown by "leftists" for reactionary groups like Hamas and Zionism is completely anti-revolutionary.
You kids should be ashamed to call yourselves leftists.
and just who exactly are you calling a kid
Intifada
15th March 2006, 16:21
Originally posted by Emperor Ronald
[email protected] 14 2006, 11:07 PM
Can someone tell me why when it is relatively calm in the West Bank, Israel does something like this to agitate the Palestinians?
The Israeli elections are coming up.
Ehud Olmert needs to show the Israeli electorate that he will be hard on the Palestinians, and that he is a decisive military leader.
bolshevik butcher
15th March 2006, 17:04
Originally posted by
[email protected] 15 2006, 01:18 AM
"Hamas were set up and funded by Israel to counteract against the secualr nationali liberationist PLO."
And you can be sure that the Zionists are regretting it now. As you are a pal of the PLO can you ask them to give back all the cash they nicked from the Palestinian working class.
"Please dont give me your anti-imperialist nonscense,"
Not me pal, it was the anti-imperialist Palestinian "working class" who turfed out the 'two state' PLO and gave Hamas a landslide victory. Or did the Zionists do that as well?
"what good are they to the Palistiniean working class?"
Well the "working class" seem very sure of them. You really are against working class democracy when it wrecks your idealist reformist schemes, aren't you?
"Any good they do is conincedental and it is not in their class interest to work for the Palistinean working class."
Well if they don't nick the cash, that would be in the "interest" off the poverty stricken workers and their families, wouldn't it?
"I am sad about this as the PFLP was a good group that fought for the Palistniean working class."
Ye, fought for their money.
"Now why do you feel that the zionists cannot be defeated in part by the Israeli working class?"
Because most of them are under the wing of one Zionist party gang or another and until the state is weakened, by economic crisis and anti-imperialist national liberation revolution, they have to much to lose living off exploitation and as mercenaries for Zionist and US imperialism. Still, the way the US economy is going their chance to break with Zionism might come before to long. But the sharp point of this struggle is Hamas because communist degeneracy in the region has little or no support. Only reevaluating the bankrupt Stalinist 'two state' 'peaceful coexistence' idiocy in the region can clear the way for the revival of Leninist revolutionary struggle.
The zionists probably arent regretting it. They seem to be doing relatively well in colonising the west band just now. The PLO is corrupt, I never said otherwise.
So, you oppose the very existance of Israel? What do you want? To turn all the Israelis into refugees like the Palistinieans are now? I oppose a two state solution, I want to see one united socialist repuglic but I dont think thats on the cards right now, hamas won the elections because they are the only alternative to the PLO. And, the Israeli working class and Palistinean working class are currently used as subverts by eachothers ruling class. Surley as a communist you believe in independant working class organisation? I don't appretiate being called a kid either.
PRC-UTE
15th March 2006, 17:15
Originally posted by
[email protected] 15 2006, 01:18 AM
"I am sad about this as the PFLP was a good group that fought for the Palistniean working class."
Ye, fought for their money.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but it sounds like you're slandering the PFLP here.
bolshevik butcher
15th March 2006, 17:23
That was certainly the picture i got. Arguable the best group of resistance fighters in Palestine, an independany working class organisation also. The PFLP is exactly the kind of group socialsits should support in Palestine.
Emperor Ronald Reagan
15th March 2006, 21:15
This event has exploded many myths at once and made clear the following:
1) Agreements with Israel are worthless and are not worth pursuing.
2) So-called guarantees by the British-American axis of death are equally worthless.
3) The PA and a Palestinian government are an illusion when dealing with a vicious, expansionist, colonial settler occupation.
4) All voices demanding that Hamas, representing the Palestinian victims, should recognize the reality and the extent of the Israeli oppression should be silenced.
5) All Palestinian leaders, who are not puppets, will be subject to Israeli murder and abduction. Hence movement to conduct "government" functions will not be easy and in some cases impossible.
6) Call it PA or Palestinian government or whatever you want, but it should be structured as a national liberation movement. It should have three main functions. First and foremost the escalation of all forms of resistance. Second to provide an adequate level of support to Palestinian society to keep functioning. Third to go on the offensive globally to raise funds, mobilize Arab and international public opinion and to isolate Usrael.
7) The election of Hamas by a solid majority of Palestinian was a political Intifada by itself. This new Intifada should be fleshed out after Hamas is in charge. It should combine various features of earlier Intifadas, including peaceful mass mobilizations as well as armed resistance.
xprol
16th March 2006, 14:59
Originally posted by Emperor Ronald
[email protected] 15 2006, 09:18 PM
This event has exploded many myths at once and made clear the following:
1) Agreements with Israel are worthless and are not worth pursuing.
2) So-called guarantees by the British-American axis of death are equally worthless.
3) The PA and a Palestinian government are an illusion when dealing with a vicious, expansionist, colonial settler occupation.
4) All voices demanding that Hamas, representing the Palestinian victims, should recognize the reality and the extent of the Israeli oppression should be silenced.
5) All Palestinian leaders, who are not puppets, will be subject to Israeli murder and abduction. Hence movement to conduct "government" functions will not be easy and in some cases impossible.
6) Call it PA or Palestinian government or whatever you want, but it should be structured as a national liberation movement. It should have three main functions. First and foremost the escalation of all forms of resistance. Second to provide an adequate level of support to Palestinian society to keep functioning. Third to go on the offensive globally to raise funds, mobilize Arab and international public opinion and to isolate Usrael.
7) The election of Hamas by a solid majority of Palestinian was a political Intifada by itself. This new Intifada should be fleshed out after Hamas is in charge. It should combine various features of earlier Intifadas, including peaceful mass mobilizations as well as armed resistance.
That looks about right, plus:
8) Explain that the Palestinian struggle is unavoidably part of the international anti-imperialist struggle against US and British warmongering which is brought on by the rapidly escalating economic crisis of capital overproduction.
Guerrilla22
16th March 2006, 17:06
Another case of Israel and the US advocating one thing and then acting in a completely different manner, no wonder hamas won the elections.
The US and Israel are constantly saying that the PA needs to step up security and crackdown on militants in order to further the peace effort, in this case the PA did go out and arrest these guys and imprison them, however the Israelis found it necessary to bust into the jail with a bulldozer and grab some of the inmates, which only esclated the violence in the region.
Tekun
17th March 2006, 00:31
How can the state occupying Arab Palestine want peace when its committing acts of aggression of this nature?
It would be like the Mexican army coming into Texas and freeing all the Mexican nationals currently incarcerated within US prisons
Ridiculous
There can be no peace as long as people are oppressed
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