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mzalendo
9th March 2006, 07:16
the capitalist america has been warned of serious consequences if it attacks iran....is this similar to saddams sentiments of"the mother of all the battles" or should america brace itself for the real thing this time around....can america afford to get physical again considering the mess it has created in iraq?

RaiseYourVoice
9th March 2006, 07:54
they will just drop bombs i guess. a ground based invasion is at the moment not possible for the U$. Too many troops are stationed around the world to controll the iranian territory, which is looking at a map simply huge.
Iran is also militarily much stronger than iraq and they will just do the same as in iraq, let the U$ roll over the country ones than come out and start destabilizing the country.
Also the U$ depts is growing more and more they can't affort another war. In this case maybe money will stop a war that'd be funny. :wub:

They might end up destroying military bases and you never know what else (the french threatened to drop an atomic bomb), which is bad enough but they won't be able to take over the country

McLeft
9th March 2006, 18:22
I just think of it as World War III,

If the US attack Iran, then Iran's allies will step in (including Japan) Russia might remain neutral but it's separatists will help Iran and so will the insurgents of Iran. North Korea is likely not to stand still and simply stare, Venezuela will indeed help but on the other hand the so called 'Allies' won't sand still either.

bunk
9th March 2006, 19:43
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 06:25 PM
I just think of it as World War III,

If the US attack Iran, then Iran's allies will step in (including Japan) Russia might remain neutral but it's separatists will help Iran and so will the insurgents of Iran. North Korea is likely not to stand still and simply stare, Venezuela will indeed help but on the other hand the so called 'Allies' won't sand still either.
I don't believe Japan is an ally of Iran unless you have a source suggesting otherwise?

piet11111
9th March 2006, 22:27
america will probably let israel deal with the iranian nuclear facility's.

anything that even resemble's a ground attack would be crushed iran is not a push over like iraq.
i just hope russia sells some advanced anti air defenses like the S-300.
if israel gets its airforce ruined everytime they attack then i think its save to say that the majority of arab nations are going to invade.
and personally i really dont mind to see that facist nation being wiped of the map.
we all know its the only way to solve the palestinian problem only i am not politically correct enough to cover my opinion up.
the problem is that israel has nukes and wont hecitate to use them :(

and regarding the american debt the official legal limit is almost reached and needs to be raised soon.
but i have no doubt bush and his junta are more then willing to plunge america into a debt so huge that it needs to sell important infrastructure to corporations.

Kia
10th March 2006, 19:19
The possibility of going to another war is incredibly unlikely. The Us Military Budget is through the roof and Bush only has so many more times that he can cut funds from education and health services before even his own party turns against him. As RaiseYaVoice said, the ground troops are spred far and thin currently. USA would have to withdraw vast amounts of troops from Iraq to provide enough troops to fight Iran. Every politician knows that using the Draft in America is political suicide, so thats out of the question. If the USA got past all of this somehow and actually declared War on Iran the amount of Allies that would come to our Aid would be drastically limited. Japan is a thorough supporter of the US and i very doubt theyd turn against us and support Iran. England would probably help out. Russia will probably abstain from fighting. Iran would probably gain huge support from the surounding muslim countries making the war that much more difficult.

Personally I doubt that if this war did happen that any Nucluer weaponary would be used at all. Building nukes is such a taboo in the world currently (hell it would be the very reason we go to war with iran) and using nukes is basically international political suicide. Even though im sure isreal would love to obliterate Iran, i believe that they understand the consequences of ever using a nuke to be so dire that theyll obstain from it. Nukes are only made and kept around for one specific reason. The fear of mutual destruction (dont remember the exact cold war term). If a country has nukes, it becomes extremely unlikely that it shall be invaded by another foriegn body.

Most likely with Iran the USA will end up with another North Korea situation. A continuing arguement from alost a decade and more over wether they should have the ability to make nucluer weapons. Personally the best option for both sides would be to allow something like what Russia sugested doing. Thus the USA and EU could stop worrying about nucleur weapons and Iran could have its "nucleur facilities". The likely hood of this is happening is slim until Bush has left office and the USA changes its foreign policy plans.

Phalanx
10th March 2006, 20:08
Originally posted by [email protected]r 9 2006, 10:30 PM
anything that even resemble's a ground attack would be crushed iran is not a push over like iraq.
i just hope russia sells some advanced anti air defenses like the S-300.
if israel gets its airforce ruined everytime they attack then i think its save to say that the majority of arab nations are going to invade.
and personally i really dont mind to see that facist nation being wiped of the map.
we all know its the only way to solve the palestinian problem only i am not politically correct enough to cover my opinion up.
the problem is that israel has nukes and wont hecitate to use them :(
How are many Arab states any less facist? You people always conveniently forget about crimes such as Darfur or Western Sahara when it comes to Israel. You're applying the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend, even if that friend is worse" thinking.

bunk
10th March 2006, 20:19
Some form of attack or economic crippler is a certain. The U.S have to in order to maintain their world position. I'm sure that the U.S dosn't want to have to risk all they are in neutralising Iran, but they do want to keep the current world order. So they have no choice.

piet11111
10th March 2006, 20:45
Originally posted by Chinghis [email protected] 10 2006, 08:11 PM
How are many Arab states any less facist? You people always conveniently forget about crimes such as Darfur or Western Sahara when it comes to Israel. You're applying the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend, even if that friend is worse" thinking.
i never claimed the palestinians are all innocent but the majority are.
but israel is not concerned who gets killed in their attacks.

the palestinians dont have the luxery of an army doing their dirty bloody tasks so they have to do it themselves.

it is easy to point to the arabs regarding darfur or the western Sahara but do you think israel has not done comparable acts ?
say lebanon or the bulldozing of refugee camps or their F-16 and apache strikes.

i condemn the actions of arabs against israel but i cant ignore that israel is the one that started it all and created an appartheid state with the palestinians as second rate "poeple"