redstar2000

[Floyce White]

Will you please retract your statement that I allegedly believe the Khmer Rouge to have been communists?

[Ol' Dirty]

P-M-HIM! Don't give the asshole more attention! ;) Just joking, man.

[C_Rasmussen]

I really highly doubt he's really going to retract any statements he makes.

[KC]

Where was this stated?

[Floyce White]

Well, I'm sure he doesn't want to make false statements about a public communist. He surely would not want to inadvertantly generate misinformation to help anti-communists who troll leftist boards.

[KC]

Link to where this happened.

[Floyce White]

The Progressive Labor Party (page 1) (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=46362&st=17)

This was posted before the server went down for a few days. Perhaps he did not see my request in that thread to retract it.

[KC]

The working class taking control of society isn't a working class method? Marx was arguing for a petty-bourgeois revolution with the support of the working class? What the fuck are you talking about? Where the fuck did you get these crazy ideas from? :blink:

[Floyce White]

Lazar: "Where the f- did you get these crazy ideas from?"

Please do not address me in that manner. I am not some inferior person to talk down to.

Please restate your question in a comradely way. By the way, that's the whole problem here. So many members of this board deal with disagreement in the disgusting methods of the Internet rather than as brothers and sisters in struggle.

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by Floyce [email protected] 8 2006, 11:27 PM
Lazar: "Where the f- did you get these crazy ideas from?"

Please do not address me in that manner. I am not some inferior person to talk down to.

Please restate your question in a comradely way. By the way, that's the whole problem here. So many members of this board deal with disagreement in the disgusting methods of the Internet rather than as brothers and sisters in struggle.
For some odd reason, Floyce some of the members in the Commie Club (and some of the authority around here) seem to think they're better than others and have quite the ego trip. I dont know why though.

[KC]

Please do not address me in that manner. I am not some inferior person to talk down to.


So when I swear I'm "talking down to you"? Is that how it works? What the fuck is wrong with swearing? What "manner" did I address you in (as opposed to your ideas)?



Please restate your question in a comradely way. By the way, that's the whole problem here. So many members of this board deal with disagreement in the disgusting methods of the Internet rather than as brothers and sisters in struggle.

My question was stated how it was because I not only disagree with your conclusions, I find them "fucking crazy". If you have ideas that I think are "fucking crazy," I'm going to let you know. Now, you have a chance to explain your conclusions (something you've never seem to have done when I've asked you to), so instead of whining about "swear words" you might as well just give me a response.



For some odd reason, Floyce some of the members in the Commie Club (and some of the authority around here) seem to think they're better than others and have quite the ego trip. I dont know why though.

So it's because I'm in the CC that I think I'm better than others? Do I even think I'm better than others? No! Some ideas I find to be fucking insane, though, and I won't hesitate to question or attack those ideas as insane.

So again, Floyce, explain yourself. How about explaining when you claimed that all property should be abolished, including personal property. When I asked you to explain yourself there, too, you didn't respond. So let's hear it. How and why would you abolish personal property? Do you know what personal property is? What's your definition of personal property?

[Floyce White]

Lazar, it is possible that you do not know that it is a debaters' trick to call someone "crazy" with whom you have a disagreement. A "debaters' trick" is an intentional lie.

We already discussed these issues. You should remember this thread (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=42974&st=59) where we discussed Marx. It's getting pretty old to hear you insist that I must fetch relevant passages and provide links for you. Do you have some sort of disability that makes it hard for you to operate a mouse?

[KC]

Lazar, it is possible that you do not know that it is a debaters' trick to call someone "crazy" with whom you have a disagreement. A "debaters' trick" is an intentional lie.

This wasn't my intention. I actually find your view crazy.



We already discussed these issues. You should remember this thread where we discussed Marx. It's getting pretty old to hear you insist that I must fetch relevant passages and provide links for you. Do you have some sort of disability that makes it hard for you to operate a mouse?

You're right, I completely forgot about that. However, you still haven't addressed this:


How about explaining when you claimed that all property should be abolished, including personal property. When I asked you to explain yourself there, too, you didn't respond. So let's hear it. How and why would you abolish personal property? Do you know what personal property is? What's your definition of personal property?

In response to my post in that thread, you merely linked me to your website. That isn't debating. Respond to this.

[LoneRed]

What the fuck is wrong with swearing

priceless Lazar :lol: :lol:


anyways, if he has said something about you, that wasnt true, i doubt he will take it back, redstar is like that, can be a hard ass sometimes. we all know his views on religion :blink:

[redstar2000]

Here's what I actually said...


Originally posted by redstar2000
In Floyce's view, the Khmer Rouge "should" have been able to "build communism", since objective material conditions "don't count".

I don't understand how you read this as a suggestion that you "do" or "did" support the Khmer Rouge except insofar as you have expressed the view that people can "have communism" regardless of objective material conditions.

I don't see how that "makes you" a blood-thirsty peasant maniac or implies that you would have happily participated in the massacres.

If anyone read my comment in such a way as to think Floyce is or has ever been any kind of supporter of the Khmer Rouge, that's not what I meant!

What I did mean is the Floyce thinks that any human society can "have communism" at any time under any objective material conditions.

All that's required is the desire to have it.

And yes, I think that's utterly wacko! :)

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[Floyce White]

redstar2000: "If anyone read my comment in such a way as to think Floyce is or has ever been any kind of supporter of the Khmer Rouge, that's not what I meant!"

Thank you.

[Famous Mortimer]

Ye gods, what an odd thread. FLoyce, care to ignore the swearing and answer a few of those questions posed to you above?