"Fascist" music in Eastern Europe

[Comrade Corinna]

Does anyone here speak a Slavic language like Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian, Bulgarian etc?

I would like to be able to translate lyrics to some music of the "turbo-folk" genre that is popular in Eastern Europe but has a reputation of being associated with fascism, nationalism and the far-Right.

I am alarmed, because I have enjoyed this type of music in the past just the way the music sounds and I'm pretty disappointed to hear that it has to do with Right wing politics, fascism, Slobodon Milosevic etc, especially Ceca Raznatovic who was married to a terrorist.

I would like to know if all music of this genre should be avoided by leftists, so Im thinking I should find out what the lyrics actually mean so I can make sure Im not listening to Fascism.

If this belongs in the anti-fascist category, move it there, because I wasnt sure which it would go in because this topic has to do with a leftist (me) and listening to music, which hopefully is NOT fascist.

Am I making any sense?

[ejected_one]

Well, I'm Croatian and I can help you. Turbo-folk is, as Serbian journalist Petar Lukovic once defined it, combination of Slavic rhytms, oriental instrumentations and incredibly stupid lyrics. In fact, it's Yugoslavian (well, mostly Serbian, but recently it is very popular here too) version of Dolly Parton-style country. Turbo-folk bands and performers always originate from undeveloped rural areas and so they are fiercely nationalistic. Examples are Croatian Mate Bulic (with loads of fascist iconography on his gigs) and Serbian Ceca Raznatovic, whose husband Zeljko "Arkan" ("Lasso") was the leader of serbian paramilitary groups in early 1990s and later a criminal. However, the lyrics are not nationalistic; in fact they are just about nothing.

[Red Polak]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2006, 04:11 PM
Well, I'm Croatian and I can help you. Turbo-folk is, as Serbian journalist Petar Lukovic once defined it, combination of Slavic rhytms, oriental instrumentations and incredibly stupid lyrics. In fact, it's Yugoslavian (well, mostly Serbian, but recently it is very popular here too) version of Dolly Parton-style country.

really? wow, I haven't heard about this, it sounds really very interesting. Do you know where I could be able to hear it online?

Comrade Corinna
If you can tell me some Polish "turbo-folk" bands then I might be able to translate the lyrics for you. I don't know if they have them in Poland though - a lot of the Polish Fascist music isn't very "dolly parton-style country" but is punk/rock. Some is even stupid enough to have lyrics praising Hitler. :unsure:

[ejected_one]

Originally posted by Red Polak+Jun 18 2006, 04:05 PM--> (Red Polak @ Jun 18 2006, 04:05 PM)
[email protected] 18 2006, 04:11 PM
Well, I'm Croatian and I can help you. Turbo-folk is, as Serbian journalist Petar Lukovic once defined it, combination of Slavic rhytms, oriental instrumentations and incredibly stupid lyrics. In fact, it's Yugoslavian (well, mostly Serbian, but recently it is very popular here too) version of Dolly Parton-style country.

really? wow, I haven't heard about this, it sounds really very interesting. Do you know where I could be able to hear it online?

Comrade Corinna
If you can tell me some Polish "turbo-folk" bands then I might be able to translate the lyrics for you. I don't know if they have them in Poland though - a lot of the Polish Fascist music isn't very "dolly parton-style country" but is punk/rock. Some is even stupid enough to have lyrics praising Hitler. :unsure: [/b]
For example here:

LINK (http://www.nostalgija.com/muzika/b.php)

The site has loads of yugoslavian music, not only turbo-folk (also rock, pop etc etc), but if you want to hear some turbo-folk then check out Baja Mali Knindza.

BTW, you Poles have great punk bands. Dezerter, KSU, Tilt, TZN Xenna...

[Gunman]

Most NSBM (National-Socialist Black Metal) bands come from Eastern Europe, so it doesn´t surprise me that most music in that particular region has some fascist "influences".

[CCCPneubauten]

Bands like Laibach get a bad rap because they use imagry that isoft' considered 'fascist' as do most bands who play 'martial music' (Which is like military music mixed with industrial or techno)

But alas, they use it as a joke, there are a lot of bands where people go 'They MUST be Nazis' (i.e. rammstein) but when you dig deeper, you can see that they are not.