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AdamCecil
4th March 2006, 14:03
It seems that the wall between Church and State in America is being torn down brick by brick. I think that today's politics in America is controlled by a small, vocal, conservitive Christian minority. This isn't what America is really like though. I have read somewhere (sorry, can't pull a source) that today's conservitives and liberals actually agree on a lot of issues. Unfortunatly, governments will be, and have always been, controlled by the radicals of one side. This is causing more and more of the religious laws becoming political laws, and our freedoms restricted. What do you think?
redstar2000
4th March 2006, 15:30
The "wall" between "church and state" in the U.S. was always mostly mythological...and the myth is now being dismantled.
When it comes to any question involving serious money, the law is on the side of religion.
The only exceptions to that "rule of thumb" is overt criminal behavior...such as the recent barrage of lawsuits involving sexual child abuse. And even in those cases, I don't think any judge has yet ordered the seizure of church property to satisfy the judgments against various churches.
I think you would do well to get over the "idea" that we "have freedoms" in the United States.
In this period, it's strictly a matter of luck whether or not you find yourself at the mercy of the authorities.
If you have a "foreign-sounding" name, it would be worth it to go to court and legally change it to an "American sounding" name...think of it as cheap insurance.
If you are a person of color, it's not a good idea to drive at night. Take a taxi!
Imagine what you would do if you lived in a dictatorship...and act accordingly.
Because that is what we live in. :(
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RedStarOverChina
4th March 2006, 16:08
Originally posted by
[email protected] 4 2006, 09:31 AM
It seems that the wall between Church and State in America is being torn down brick by brick. I think that today's politics in America is controlled by a small, vocal, conservitive Christian minority. This isn't what America is really like though. I have read somewhere (sorry, can't pull a source) that today's conservitives and liberals actually agree on a lot of issues. Unfortunatly, governments will be, and have always been, controlled by the radicals of one side. This is causing more and more of the religious laws becoming political laws, and our freedoms restricted. What do you think?
You watched the Colbert Report, didnt you
RussianAnarchist
4th March 2006, 18:01
Now the unufication of Church and State occurs not only in America, unfortunately. In Russia and in the Ukraine exactly recently this problem became very sharp. Not further as yesterday, examp, for orthodox-conservative community it was possible to attain withdrawal from the stores Tony White's book Satan! Satan! Satan (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/184068030X/qid=1141494760/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_10/102-3110388-4186505?s=books&v=glance&n=283155) and Adam Parfrey's book Cult Rapture: Revelations of the Apocalyptic Mind (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0922915229/qid=1141495220/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/102-3110388-4186505?s=books&v=glance&n=283155) on the charge in the "pornography". They withdrawn from the cinemas film "House of Thousands of Corpses". Powerful pressure on our ultra-leftist publishing house "UltraCulture". This in only single problems - here and attempts to introduce in the schools the study of the GodLaw and to accept law about the inadmissibility of the insult of feelings of believers (in which it is guilty, as a rule, or UltraCulture mentioned above or avanguard artists), but precisely now they most were activated. It seems to me that we all coming to the new religious censorship and the bonfires from the books. In it can't be absolutely nothing good - either from the point of view of the freedom of word or from the point of view of the need for multireligion nor from the point of view of mans of actually believer and not with the brains washed in conservatism.
AdamCecil
4th March 2006, 18:10
Originally posted by
[email protected] 4 2006, 04:36 PM
You watched the Colbert Report, didnt you
I watch that show, but I do not recall an episode where he spoke that church and state should be seperated. Must of missed it. Mail me a tape.
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