Why did Stalin

[Comrade Corinna]

I would like to think that Stalin did a great thing by being crucial in World War II to fight the Axis Powers, but how do we keep this arguement while history shows us that he signed a pact with Hitler?

[More Fire for the People]

He didn't want to be invaded and the Soviet Union didn't have the resources to stop an invasion at the time. The only option was appeasement. And to add to that, in 1939 it was not widely known what the Nazis where doing but on the surface it seemed like expropriation and anti-deformity eugenics, which where policies advocated by some Soviets.

[ComradeOm]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 4 2006, 05:20 AM
I would like to think that Stalin did a great thing by being crucial in World War II to fight the Axis Powers, but how do we keep this arguement while history shows us that he signed a pact with Hitler?
Stalin offered an alliance to the French and British governments with the aim of countering or destroying Hitler. The capitalists refused and so Stalin had little choice but to buy time.

[Revolution 9]

Originally posted by ComradeOm+Mar 4 2006, 06:44 PM--> (ComradeOm @ Mar 4 2006, 06:44 PM)
Comrade [email protected] 4 2006, 05:20 AM
I would like to think that Stalin did a great thing by being crucial in World War II to fight the Axis Powers, but how do we keep this arguement while history shows us that he signed a pact with Hitler?
Stalin offered an alliance to the French and British governments with the aim of countering or destroying Hitler. The capitalists refused and so Stalin had little choice but to buy time. [/b]
I'm not sure about that but...

Stalin wanted a part of Poland, since, during the 1920 war with Poland, the Polish generals totally owned the forces that Stalin promised Lenin (and the rest of the Grand Soviet) will succeed in occupying Poland.

Of course, Stalin wanted his revenge. What better way to take Polish land and kill thousands of Polish officers at Katyń?

[Comrade Corinna]

I new it had something to do with territory in Poland, but it that seems quite imperialistic.

It's quite telling, how capitalists were so reluctant to enter World War II but were absolutely itching to enter World War I.

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by Hopscotch [email protected] 4 2006, 01:35 PM
And to add to that, in 1939 it was not widely known what the Nazis where doing but on the surface it seemed like expropriation and anti-deformity eugenics, which where policies advocated by some Soviets.
This reminds me of a story I once heard, dont know where it originated though or if I heard an adapted version

A German worker is about to have a child. He asked his buddy who worked at the cradle factory to get him a free one. His friend agrees and has to bring home the cradle piece by piece in order to get away with it. About a month later right before the baby is expected, the worker asks his buddy about the cradle. His buddy responds, "well I have all the pieces but everytime I put it together I get an mg42 machine gun."


Back to the thread, Stalin wanted to sign treaties with lots of the Western powers.

[TC]

I would like to think that Stalin did a great thing by being crucial in World War II to fight the Axis Powers, but how do we keep this arguement while history shows us that he signed a pact with Hitler?


The Soviet's signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop non-aggression pact with the Nazis because the British and French empires refused to fight the Nazis and instead entered into an alliance with the Nazis allowing the Nazis to invade to the East, called the Treaty of Munich leaving the Soviets isolated. The Soviets were in no position to fight the Nazis alone and they knew they needed time to prepair their army, so they simply bought time.

The Soviet Union would never have signed a non-aggression pact with the Third Reich had the British and French not signed an alliance against Czechoslovakia with Hitler at Munich.


I new it had something to do with territory in Poland, but it that seems quite imperialistic.


It wasn't territory in Poland proper. During the Soviet revolution, every imperialist power including Poland invaded the Soviet Union. Poland occupied large areas of the Belorussian SSR, the Red Army simply liberated the Bellorussians under Polish ocupation when it had the strength to do so.