corporate schooling

[piet11111]

i read a small article in a dutch newspaper that some corporations are interested in providing schooling and daycare for the kids of its employees.

the government branches that are responsible for the education in the netherlands are against it because the corporations have no means of guaranteing the quality of the education provided.
i did not have the chance to read the entire article because it was thrown away before i got to read it through.

but i am concerned as this is probably the most direct way of indoctrination possible.
and also because employees that use this service are effectively chained to the corporation.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Personally I think providing free creches to working parents is an excellent idea, but schooling? That would only be a good idea if the corporations merely provided the funding, but not the actual teaching.

[Atlas Swallowed]

The last thing I would want my children to is corporate propaganda, especially from my employer. It is bad enough that I have to suffer through it while slaving away at measaly wages while owners and board become disqustingly wealthy at mine and fellow workers exspense.

[Enragé]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 09:31 PM
Personally I think providing free creches to working parents is an excellent idea, but schooling? That would only be a good idea if the corporations merely provided the funding, but not the actual teaching.
it depends.

In this specific case, the dutch one, the whole daycare crap is being used in a scheme to get more people to work. Basicly what they are saying is "dont ***** about being unable to be there for your kids because you have to be at work from 9 to 5 because we got this wonderful daycare program :) NOW GET TO WORK :angry: *whip cracks*"

All to improve our position in the international market....

[bezdomni]

This reminds me of a simpsons episode...

Who can tell me the atomic weight of bolognium on the Promotional Oscar Meyer's Periodic Table?

Answer: Snacktastic

[godfather of soul]

I teach in San Francisco, CA...It had a bout of privatization with Edison Schools (google them if you have never heard of them). Initially the public was for it, then became rabidly against it and the multiple schools they had opened dwindled down to one. Public charters used to be places where schools could exist as laboratories, but now they exist only as laboratories for creating efficient semi-corporate or fully-corporate models of running public schools. They are not unionized shops and shold be vehemently opposed based solely on those conditions. Luckily no corporate entity has been able to run large numbers of schools profitably or even close to even. Edison has failed miserably. Schools are entities where profit should play no role (but then again, what kind of entity should allow profit?).

As for allowing corporations to fund any part of education... Corporations rarely do anything for free. They would want to peddle influence and get free advertising in the schools, which is a horriffic way that capitalism preys on relatively defenseless young people. Corporations shouldn't be allowed to fund anything unless they are giving money with no strings attached or equipment with the brand names etched OFF of it.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Originally posted by NewKindOfSoldier+Mar 1 2006, 10:02 PM--> (NewKindOfSoldier @ Mar 1 2006, 10:02 PM)
[email protected] 1 2006, 09:31 PM
Personally I think providing free creches to working parents is an excellent idea, but schooling? That would only be a good idea if the corporations merely provided the funding, but not the actual teaching.
it depends.

In this specific case, the dutch one, the whole daycare crap is being used in a scheme to get more people to work. Basicly what they are saying is "dont ***** about being unable to be there for your kids because you have to be at work from 9 to 5 because we got this wonderful daycare program :) NOW GET TO WORK :angry: *whip cracks*"

All to improve our position in the international market.... [/b]
Surely that's better than penalizing employees for taking days off work to look after the kids?

[JasonJ]

Originally posted by godfather of [email protected] 2 2006, 12:50 AM
Public charters used to be places where schools could exist as laboratories, but now they exist only as laboratories for creating efficient semi-corporate or fully-corporate models of running public schools.
I think in some ways it is even worse here in Wisconsin. Milwaukee Public School district has a voucher program set up where parents of students are allowed to choose between public anc private education without any personal financial output other than what would normally go into the coffers for public education.

The money which funds this program is taken out of the public school system's budget. While this appears like a prgressive move to motivate the public school system into a more performance minded work ethic; the important thing to note is that the private schools in the voucher program are overwhelmingly parochial schools who: do not have to administer the same regimen of standardized testing that public schools must adhere to by state law, are not held accountable to prove that state funding is not spent on religious education, and are not necessarily responsible for insuring that safeguards are in place to prevent or deter discriminatory practices towards students or faculty alike.

In effect, this program makes a mockery of the First Amendment 'Wall of Separation between Church and State' ideology.

[Iepilei]

It's already happening, though. School districts faced with unbalanced income from taxes are turning to corporate sponsorships in order to keep within budget.

This means they're buying access to restricted and guarenteed markets, which is essence a monopoly. Not to mention the retarded rules said districts are forced to make to appease many corporate sponsors.

There's this one school district I read about a while back that actually has a, "Coca-Cola Day." The whole day is focused on learning random factoids about coke products.

This is what we have to look forward to.

[Enragé]

Originally posted by NoXion+Mar 2 2006, 12:59 AM--> (NoXion @ Mar 2 2006, 12:59 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 10:02 PM

[email protected] 1 2006, 09:31 PM
Personally I think providing free creches to working parents is an excellent idea, but schooling? That would only be a good idea if the corporations merely provided the funding, but not the actual teaching.
it depends.

In this specific case, the dutch one, the whole daycare crap is being used in a scheme to get more people to work. Basicly what they are saying is "dont ***** about being unable to be there for your kids because you have to be at work from 9 to 5 because we got this wonderful daycare program :) NOW GET TO WORK :angry: *whip cracks*"

All to improve our position in the international market....
Surely that's better than penalizing employees for taking days off work to look after the kids? [/b]
:huh:

it both sucks as a matter of fact, the one is no better than the other, its both an attempt to make people work more, harder, faster at the expense of children, all to improve the wealth of the elite.

[piet11111]

and still the actual quality of the education provided can not be guaranteed.
so what we might end up with is kids who can order a bottle of coca cola in 10 different languages yet are unable to read.

like poeple said this is yet another way of chaining workers to the corporation they work for.
and it might even be a way to force poeple to work for lower wages to still recieve the additional benefits for working in corporation x.

also did anyone ever read about corporations offering life insurance to its workers for a small decrease in wages where the beneficiary of the insurance is the corporation itself ?
i read about it in a book by micheal moore.