Marketing to Children

[timbaly]

I just read an op-ed piece in the New York Times about some lawsuits against companies who market to children by using popular cartoon characters. The two groups leading the lawsuits are the Campaign for a Commercial-Free Childhood and the Center for Science in the Public Interest. According to the op-ed these organizations plan on sueing several companies for over one billion dollars in damages. Eggo and Campbell's were listed among those to be targeted. The advocat groups say that the companies target children by using cartoon characters to sell their unhealthy products. By placing nickelodeon cartoon characters on boxes they claim children are being unjustly targeted.

I think the lawsuits are ridiculous and even though the food is definetely unhealthy and is definetely market to children it is in not unethical to me. Even though it may be marketed to children, the parents are the ones who buy it and should regulate it as well. They should teach their children about what is healthy and what is not. Moderation is also another important thing, my parents taught me this, I was unhappy about it but I understood. Just because the food has no nutrious value I don't think it should be banned, the stuff tastes good and people should have the option to eat it once and a while, even children.

I am wondering what you all think of this. Now I know many of us leftists have no love for some of the corporations targeted but I'm interested in knowing if you think the advocat groups have a legitament case is sueing. As for the capitalists, is it ok to market non-nutritious food to children even though we like in a fairly free-market society?

http://www.wlf.org/Communicating/inallfairness.asp
Check out cartoon outrage. You will have to download it to read.

http://www.commercialfreechildhood.org/pre...logglawsuit.htm (http://www.commercialfreechildhood.org/pressreleases/nickkellogglawsuit.htm)
This is from one of the organizations doing the sueing.

[Orange Juche]

Ever see the documentary, "The Corporation"?

Some of these companies hire psychologists to find ways in advertising to make the kids nag their parents more (which ends up making more of them finally break down and buy whatever the kid is complaining about), and that increases profit.

Its fucking sick.

[FULL METAL JACKET]

Marketing to children is definitely sick. Just look at Coca-Cola. They use this cuddly polar bears to sell their drinks. Polar bears and penguins in Coca-Cola commercials are definitely not targeted for mature audiences.

Plenty of examples to choose from, take a look at these:

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Look at these anti-nazi cartoons:

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Don't get me wrong, I want kids to know about the horrors of the Nazis. But damn these are cartoons, it shouldn't be politicized no matter what.

Edit: More pics

[timbaly]

Some of these companies hire psychologists to find ways in advertising to make the kids nag their parents more (which ends up making more of them finally break down and buy whatever the kid is complaining about), and that increases profit
I did see that part of it on a website, but I haven't seen the whole thing. It's definetely true and it is sick. When taken to that level I see it as unethical. Of course advertisments are designed to make you want the product, it's the goal, but when it's designed to cause excessive nagging that is another issue. However using children's characters to market to children in itself is not wrong to me. I grew up with this practice and I am healthy as are most children, those that are not healthy are in such a state because of lack of moderation. Consuming unhealthy food once in a while does not hurt you in the long term.

[Hegemonicretribution]

They should not be targetting children full stop. Everywhere children are seen as not capable of negotiated certain aspects of life such as voting, driving, buying alcohol or tobacco, or viewing porn. If they are not deemed in control enough of their faculties to make these sort of decisions, then how the hell are they going to respond to complete bombardment by specialised psychologists via the media?

They respond by becoming the next generation of consumers. They become greedier and more apathetic because they learn early about the words "I want." This sort of crap perpetuates the consumerist mindset, and for this alone should be stopped.

I would like to see someone justify why it is right our children should be subject to this?

[loveme4whoiam]

Hahaha, that one of Donald Duck reading Mein Kampf is hilarious, as is the smoking Flintstones one.

It just goes to show, capitalism will stoop to any depth in order to make money :angry:

[FULL METAL JACKET]

It just goes to show, capitalism will stoop to any depth in order to make money mad.gif

I completely agree. Greed has no limits.

[timbaly]

I can't say I agree with FULL METAL JACKET on the Nazi cartoons, it makes it easier for children to ask their parents about the nazis. Those cartoons about nazis are from WWII a time when i doiubt many parents were willing to educate their kids on such matters, and those cartoons never run on TV anymore as far as I know.

As for the coke products being marketed to kids, I don't think it's that bad. Popular TV characters aren't even being used for it. Plus even though it targets children once again children should be taught moderation and the parents should monitor there intake and they should tell them about what is healthy and waht is not.

[FULL METAL JACKET]

it makes it easier for children to ask their parents about the nazis
I agree it makes it a whole lot easier, but it doesn't make it right. Maybe it's just me but I think cartoons should be innocent for kids. Back then when I watched Tom & Jerry all they did was go around doing silling things, that made a ton of kids laugh, I know I did.

We don't need to have our kids watching some cartoons saying Hail Hitler on their tv sets. The age target of the kids watching that cartoon probably weren't even mature enough to understand the basis and fundementals of the evil Nazi's.

I know it looks like am defending the Nazi's against anti Nazi propaganda but just try to look at the overall picture.

Would you like right-wing cartoonists making anti-communists cartoons for kids? Saying a bunch of lies about Fidel or Stalin? I understand the people I mentioned technically aren't communists but they are communists in name and they sure as hell called themselves communists even though they are not. Isn't that the main criticisms of communism? These so called communists dictators.

Wouldn't this brainwash the kid? We have to look at all the angles.


As for the coke products being marketed to kids, I don't think it's that bad.
Ah that's not a bad thing? So Coca-Cola acting like Big Tobacco isn't a bad thing? Kids get drink suckered in to coke when they are young. Are kids suppose to know the health risks? Are parents suppose to know when Coca-Cola deliberately lies about the health issues surronding Coke?

Let me just point out three dangers of many in the article I wish you would read and post your opinion back here.


Matthias B. Schulze added this, “our finding suggest that frequent consumption of sugar-sweetened beverage may be associated with larger weight gain and increased risk of Type-2 diabetes, possibly by providing excessive calories and large amounts of rapidly absorbable sugar.”

The second premise that soda pop doesn’t cause osteoporosis is again refuted. A study done by the Harvard School of Public Health found that active girls, who drink cola type soda pop, are five times more likely to suffer bone fractures than girls who don’t consume soda pop. Other animal studies point to consistent and definite bone loss due to soda pop and the phosphoric acid contained in them.

Lastly, Ms. Beck states, “no data exist to connect soft drink consumption with diabetes.” She simply needs to read the JAMA report that outlines the research on 91,000 female nurses from 1991-1999. All the women were free of diabetes in 1991, yet, the research showed that nurses who consumed one or more sugary drinks a day were 1.3 times more likely to develop diabetes! I see students at my school who tell me they consume between 2-4 20- ounce containers of pop a day!

Please read this article: When Will Coca-Cola stop acting like Big Tobacco? (http://gnn.tv/articles/article.php?id=1015)

[timbaly]

I would like to see someone justify why it is right our children should be subject to this?

Children should not be subject to safisticated advertisment ploys that are aimed at causing them to nagg their parents excessively. However simply creating advertisment that appeals to children should not be completely illegal. The products are obviously targeting them so it seems acceptable to use things that appeal to them. In our current society it is

I agree with the following as well:
They respond by becoming the next generation of consumers. They become greedier and more apathetic because they learn early about the words "I want." This sort of crap perpetuates the consumerist mindset, and for this alone should be stopped.

I agree with it in terms of most consumer products but not with food. I don't believe food marketing makes you greedier. When people see food they don't buy it if they already have waht they need to eat. They might try it as a supplement to other things they would normally buy, but I wouldn't say it makes you greedier.
Just bare in mind that we are discussing food advertisments here.

[FULL METAL JACKET]

^ Come on don't ignore my post. We're all here for debates, please respond to my last post.

[timbaly]

Would you like right-wing cartoonists making anti-communists cartoons for kids? Saying a bunch of lies about Fidel or Stalin? I understand the people I mentioned technically aren't communists but they are communists in name and they sure as hell called themselves communists even though they are not. Isn't that the main criticisms of communism? These so called communists dictators.

Wouldn't this brainwash the kid? We have to look at all the angles.


I understand the concern and it's valid. I wouldn't want cartoons about the USSR that portrayed them as real communists. I just feel that nazi's are in a category of their own and cartoons demeaning them are completely ok with me. You're also correct about the age of the children watching the cartoons, but I do think you should start to educate your kids about important things from a young age. Though I completely understand your concerns about preserving childhood, I just don't wish to debate that here and now.


Ah that's not a bad thing? So Coca-Cola acting like Big Tobacco isn't a bad thing? Kids get drink suckered in to coke when they are young. Are kids suppose to know the health risks? Are parents suppose to know when Coca-Cola deliberately lies about the health issues surronding Coke?

Parents owe it to their kids to teach them about moderation, and healthy foods. Highy Fructose Corn Syrup is definetely a nasty element of the cola and is unhealthy. Parents should know that soda is unatural and sugar filled with little value whatsoever other than being pleasurable. I beleive that we as humans are smart enough to control ourselves, I have managed it as have many of you reading this. I know many people who control their intake of soda and they can surely pass it to their kids just like my parents passed on the idea of moderation to me.

As for the article I know that coca-cola is unhealthy and what has been pointed out I have heard for the most part. In excess the stuff is defientely cigarette-esque. I believe that most people know about the risks of drinking too much soda. They might not know the technicalities of it that are pointed out in the article, but they know in the present day. Therefore when people blame the soda for getting them fat I think it's not a good argument. Most of the blame is on the individual him or herself. I think the public generally knows the risks. Sueing Coca-Cola for making soda is like sueing the tobacco companies for making cigarettes even though the health risks are known and have been told to us from a young age.

[timbaly]

Originally posted by FULL METAL [email protected] 27 2006, 09:00 PM
^ Come on don't ignore my post. We're all here for debates, please respond to my last post.
It might look like I'm ignoring but while I was posting to respond to Hegemonicretribution's post you posted the post with the article. I know the time difference is huge but I was just on the posting screen for a long time since things came up around the house.

[FULL METAL JACKET]

Sorry didn't want to force you to do anything or hurry you up. We should have more people on RL! Only 25 users at a time average out each time I log in. More people can mean better debates. Are more committed people. The other day didn't the mods delete a huge number of inactive accounts? Disappointing.

But anways back to the subject


ou're also correct about the age of the children watching the cartoons, but I do think you should start to educate your kids about important things from a young age.

I completely agree, parents need to teach the kids important things from a young age and keep on educating them, school isn't enough.


I know many people who control their intake of soda and they can surely pass it to their kids just like my parents passed on the idea of moderation to me.

I know many people too who have moderation just like me and you. But does that mean everyone? Not just foods or anything like that but come on how many people buy an axcess amount of jordan sneakers, fitted hats of every color, latest ipods? I think you would agree it's bigger than just food. It's this whole consumer mentality.

[Hegemonicretribution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 01:55 AM
The products are obviously targeting them so it seems acceptable to use things that appeal to them. In our current society it is



In our current society sexism, racism and homophobia often are as well <_<.

I would like to quote myself to explain why this isn&#39;t right;
Everywhere children are seen as not capable of negotiated certain aspects of life such as voting, driving, buying alcohol or tobacco, or viewing porn. If they are not deemed in control enough of their faculties to make these sort of decisions, then how the hell are they going to respond to complete bombardment by specialised psychologists via the media?


When people see food they don&#39;t buy it if they already have waht they need to eat. They might try it as a supplement to other things they would normally buy, but I wouldn&#39;t say it makes you greedier.
Are you serious? Have you ever been in the cereal, or sweets aisle of a supermarket with a young child? They will often demand sweets, or drinks, or anything really whether or not any more consumption would make them sick.


Just bare in mind that we are discussing food advertisments here.
Sorry, the title was general, although I maintain what I said in all cases including food.

[Atlas Swallowed]

If my son sees anything with Dora or spongebob it grabs his attention. Somtimes he will tell me that he wants whatever product that the charecter is on. Most of the time it is not even something he wants and after explaining to him what is actually in the box he ceases. When he is old enough to understand marketing and thier gimmicks I will educate him.

Marketing should not be directly aimed at children it is hard enough taking the kids to the store without dealing with that :)

[timbaly]

Originally posted by Hegemonicretribution+Feb 28 2006, 01:41 PM--> (Hegemonicretribution @ Feb 28 2006, 01:41 PM)
[email protected] 28 2006, 01:55 AM
The products are obviously targeting them so it seems acceptable to use things that appeal to them. In our current society it is



In our current society sexism, racism and homophobia often are as well <_<. [/b]
I&#39;m sorry about what I said there. That was an incomplete sentence without a period. I was in the middle of it when somehting came up around the house as I mentioned in an earlier post. I meant to say that in our current society marketing to kids is for capitalists gains and that is the main objection many of us have. However in theory I think there is nothing wrong with targeting children. Even in our ideal socialist society I think such advertisment would still exist. It simply makes sense to advertise to your target audience. Making a product look more appealing is justified as long as it&#39;s truthful, and using cartoons is justifiable to me. Those who get addicted do so because of their own faults to a large extent in almost every account, it&#39;s unfair to blame advertisments.



Are you serious? Have you ever been in the cereal, or sweets aisle of a supermarket with a young child? They will often demand sweets, or drinks, or anything really whether or not any more consumption would make them sick.

I am serious, children definetely want more, but they won&#39;t eat it more than they normally would once they learn their lessons about eating too much. Every child has a time in their life whn they get a stomach ache from eating too much and it&#39;s a good learning experience. Once you experience this you become less likely to over consume. As for demanding things in sotres, they certainly do but it does not mean that their parents buy it for them and that they eat it. Parents need to teach their kids control and healthful eating habits. If parents to give into buying new foods that the kids beg for they often also drop something that they normally would have bought originally.



Sorry, the title was general, although I maintain what I said in all cases including food.

You&#39;re right, but I would just rather stick to food for now since that&#39;s what the articles are about.

[timbaly]

Originally posted by FULL METAL [email protected] 27 2006, 09:29 PM
I know many people too who have moderation just like me and you. But does that mean everyone? Not just foods or anything like that but come on how many people buy an axcess amount of jordan sneakers, fitted hats of every color, latest ipods? I think you would agree it&#39;s bigger than just food. It&#39;s this whole consumer mentality.
It definetely is bigger than just food. The consumption of jordan&#39;s, every colored fitted&#39;s and multiple ipod&#39;s are all horrible problems. I just think that they are very different topics and not nearly the same as the consumption of food. The other items are image makers, and when celebrities advertise them people want to emulate them. The adds for them are all about being with the in crowd, and it creates peer pressure. I just don&#39;t think that food can be put in the same category. I don&#39;t know anyone who has ever told me that they bought food because it&#39;s cool or because they saw a celebrity advertising it on TV or eating it themsevles. I think it&#39;s much easier to resist the temptaions of buying food than it is to be clothing or new technology.

[kitty3katts]

Marketing geared to children has been going on for decades but that doesn&#39;t mean that the parents have to give in. I was taught everything in moderation....and that&#39;s what I&#39;ll teach my children when they are old enough to understand. It&#39;s up to the parents to control what their children eat since children learn good eating habits at a very young age......they learn by example. If you eat properly so will they. I&#39;m on a very strict diet and therefore my husband and my children eat the same foods I do....a very balanced diet.

As for Coke causing Type 2 Diabetes....it&#39;s not true.....I&#39;m diabetic and I sure didn&#39;t get it from drinking coke, neither did my father or my sister..... ;)

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by timbaly
As for the capitalists, is it ok to market non-nutritious food to children even though we live in a fairly free-market society?

In a "free-market society", it&#39;s "ok" to market anything to anybody.

The lawsuits are just another "legal hustle"...a bunch of guys hoping to get rich from out-of-court settlements like the anti-tobacco lawyers got rich.

It&#39;s just one of the "side-shows" in the capitalist carnival. <_<

It also feeds into the fear-mongering that seems to be increasingly characteristic of late capitalism.

Think of all the things that we&#39;re supposed to be afraid of these days...from the "terrorists" lurking under our beds to second-hand cigarette smoke to the collapse of the global ecology.

And now it&#39;s "eating non-nutritious food"...especially, I guess, if it&#39;s been genetically modified. :lol:

Did you ever wonder who benefits by having the general population constantly tossed from one fear to another?

Could it be a useful distraction from the real dangers that we are likely to encounter?

Like not being able to get enough money to live on no matter what we do.

Or getting sick without access to quality medical care.

Or ending up homeless because all the rents are too high.

Or no longer being able to afford heat, air conditioning, or even electricity?

Or ending up a civilian casualty of an imperialist war?

There are things that we should be afraid of...but they are lost in the clamor over trivial fears.

It is a "scary world"...but the real dangers of modern capitalism are "beneath the radar" until they suddenly bite you in the ass&#33;

When I think of all the things I&#39;ve been "warned against" in my life, I can&#39;t recall a single warning about the fact that the levees in New Orleans were of shit design and even worse construction...and that the consequences of a serious hurricane could kill me a lot faster than all the "daily scares" put together. :o

And almost did&#33; :angry:

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[kitty3katts]

Originally posted by redstar2000+Mar 4 2006, 05:20 AM--> (redstar2000 @ Mar 4 2006, 05:20 AM)
timbaly
As for the capitalists, is it ok to market non-nutritious food to children even though we live in a fairly free-market society?

In a "free-market society", it&#39;s "ok" to market anything to anybody.

The lawsuits are just another "legal hustle"...a bunch of guys hoping to get rich from out-of-court settlements like the anti-tobacco lawyers got rich.

It&#39;s just one of the "side-shows" in the capitalist carnival. <_<

It also feeds into the fear-mongering that seems to be increasingly characteristic of late capitalism.

Think of all the things that we&#39;re supposed to be afraid of these days...from the "terrorists" lurking under our beds to second-hand cigarette smoke to the collapse of the global ecology.

And now it&#39;s "eating non-nutritious food"...especially, I guess, if it&#39;s been genetically modified. :lol:

Did you ever wonder who benefits by having the general population constantly tossed from one fear to another?

Could it be a useful distraction from the real dangers that we are likely to encounter?

Like not being able to get enough money to live on no matter what we do.

Or getting sick without access to quality medical care.

Or ending up homeless because all the rents are too high.

Or no longer being able to afford heat, air conditioning, or even electricity?

Or ending up a civilian casualty of an imperialist war?

There are things that we should be afraid of...but they are lost in the clamor over trivial fears.

It is a "scary world"...but the real dangers of modern capitalism are "beneath the radar" until they suddenly bite you in the ass&#33;

When I think of all the things I&#39;ve been "warned against" in my life, I can&#39;t recall a single warning about the fact that the levees in New Orleans were of shit design and even worse construction...and that the consequences of a serious hurricane could kill me a lot faster than all the "daily scares" put together. :o

And almost did&#33; :angry:

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The big corporations, like anyone else have to be held responsible for their actions. The lawsuit against the tobacco companies in the U.S. was well deserved. They told the public for years that smoking was harmless even though they knew better....so now they&#39;re paying the price.

Second hand smoke is dangerous.....have you ever seen the toll on human life because of it?? I&#39;ve had many patient dying of lung cancer who NEVER smoked a day in their life...but their spouse did. Children imitate what they see...so if they see their parents smoking many take up the habit to.....The tobacco companies policy has always been....Hook em young and you hook them for life...Sad but true...

Have you seen the obesity rates amongst children these days?? We&#39;re seeing more and more hypertension and diabetes amongst children today....saw very little of that when I was a kid....

Where I live you have access to quality healthcare....

[redstar2000]

Oh dear, another neo-puritan. :(

Well, try this...

Neo-Puritanism (http://www.redstar2000papers.com/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1141370560&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&)

You probably won&#39;t like it.

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[kitty3katts]

I am not telling people not to smoke....it&#39;s their choice....I smoke myself but not inside.....when my kids are old enough to make their own choices then they will....hopefully they never pick up the habit. It&#39;s like over eating....it&#39;s not just the obese that suffer.....think of the workplace injuries the nursing staff suffer when the person can&#39;t move themselves and figure because we&#39;re young we can....workplace injuries cost our hospitals a lot of money....money that could be put to better use....

The Americans have been losing the war on drugs for years.....nothing wrong with smoking a little pot or hash.....it&#39;s the chemicals that are dangerous..... <_< <_<

[kitty3katts]

;)

[timbaly]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 01:09 PM
Marketing geared to children has been going on for decades but that doesn&#39;t mean that the parents have to give in. I was taught everything in moderation....and that&#39;s what I&#39;ll teach my children when they are old enough to understand. It&#39;s up to the parents to control what their children eat since children learn good eating habits at a very young age......they learn by example. If you eat properly so will they. I&#39;m on a very strict diet and therefore my husband and my children eat the same foods I do....a very balanced diet.

As for Coke causing Type 2 Diabetes....it&#39;s not true.....I&#39;m diabetic and I sure didn&#39;t get it from drinking coke, neither did my father or my sister..... ;)
I&#39;m glad to see someone that&#39;s a bit more on my side.

As for coke causing type-2 diabetes it might not be the sole cause but it helps it along. More and more studies have linked the two together. Your family is probably just genetically encoded for it but do not count out the the links between the soda and the disease.

[timbaly]

Originally posted by redstar2000+Mar 4 2006, 12:20 AM--> (redstar2000 @ Mar 4 2006, 12:20 AM)
timbaly
As for the capitalists, is it ok to market non-nutritious food to children even though we live in a fairly free-market society?

In a "free-market society", it&#39;s "ok" to market anything to anybody. [/b]
I&#39;m glad you answered that question even though you&#39;re far from a capitalist. Your response was not the one UI was looking for since I&#39;m doubt if most capitalists would agree with your answer. It&#39;s rough that you have to answer for them. Every time I come here there seems to be less capitalists and more inter-leftist debating than right wing versus left wing.

[Dyst]

Perhaps most capitalists wouldn&#39;t agree with the answer, but they would fail to explain why anyway.

Per definition, in a "free-market society", it is "okay" to market anything to anybody.

Like it or help tear it down.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by timbaly
It&#39;s rough that you have to answer for them. Every time I come here there seems to be less capitalists and more inter-leftist debating than right wing versus left wing.

A "sign of the times", I suspect. Even a lot of conservatives find Bush, Blair, Howard, etc. and their co-conspirators increasingly embarrassing.

And even repugnant&#33;

Not that they&#39;ve abandoned their beliefs in the superiority of capitalism...but I detect in their posts a sense of "unease" -- like WTF is going on??? :o

They can point to China, Russia, etc. as "triumphs" of capitalism -- which is entirely justified. But when they look at their own countries, it&#39;s "difficult" to muster up a "sense of confidence".

Put yourself "in the shoes" of a pro-capitalist college student in the U.S. Chances are s/he is plunging deep into debt in order to attend college at all.

And s/he expects a high-paying and challenging career when s/he graduates.

As well as an interesting and enjoyable life. :)

That&#39;s what America promises its upwardly mobile servants.

Can American capitalism deliver on those promises?

There are obvious reasons for doubt...and worry.

Not the sort of thing that sends one off to a left message board "full of fight" and eager to "show the flag".

I suspect this is also the case in the U.K., Australia, Canada, etc.

So the number of articulate pro-capitalists is declining here. They have other worries that concern them.

At least that&#39;s my "theory". :)

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[Capitalist Lawyer]

Oh dear, another neo-puritan.

Let me get this straight redstar. If I choose to run a mile everyday, eat healthy, and not smoke so that I don&#39;t have to be burdened with obesity or any other diseases associated with a poor diet...I&#39;m a neo-puritan?

Then consider me GUILTY.

Neo-puritans of the world unite&#33; You have nothing to lose but a miserable and lazy existence&#33;

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by Capitalist Lawyer
Let me get this straight redstar. If I choose to run a mile everyday, eat healthy, and not smoke so that I don&#39;t have to be burdened with obesity or any other diseases associated with a poor diet...I&#39;m a neo-puritan?

No, you&#39;re just a health-nut. :)

When you propose legislation to make people do all that crazy shit "for their own good", then you are a neo-puritan&#33;

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[Oh-Dae-Su]

^^ a law like that won&#39;t be passed.. of course there are laws probably to regulate public school diets, but thats ok, i mean your not gonna be feeding kids ribs or something lmao

although there are some laws which are stupid, like here for example, i live in Florida, i think that if you don&#39;t wear your seatbealt you are given a ticket, FUCK if someone wants to die let them fucking die, why are you trying to stop idiots? just like weed, if you want to smoke weed, than fucking smoke it, why should it be illegal? Although certain other drugs do deserve restrictions, if not there would be an epidemic.

[Dyst]

Neo-puritans of the world unite&#33; You have nothing to lose but a miserable [...] existence&#33;

This is true&#33;&#33;&#33; :P

[kitty3katts]

Originally posted by timbaly+Mar 7 2006, 01:18 AM--> (timbaly @ Mar 7 2006, 01:18 AM)
[email protected] 1 2006, 01:09 PM
Marketing geared to children has been going on for decades but that doesn&#39;t mean that the parents have to give in. I was taught everything in moderation....and that&#39;s what I&#39;ll teach my children when they are old enough to understand. It&#39;s up to the parents to control what their children eat since children learn good eating habits at a very young age......they learn by example. If you eat properly so will they. I&#39;m on a very strict diet and therefore my husband and my children eat the same foods I do....a very balanced diet.

As for Coke causing Type 2 Diabetes....it&#39;s not true.....I&#39;m diabetic and I sure didn&#39;t get it from drinking coke, neither did my father or my sister..... ;)
I&#39;m glad to see someone that&#39;s a bit more on my side.

As for coke causing type-2 diabetes it might not be the sole cause but it helps it along. More and more studies have linked the two together. Your family is probably just genetically encoded for it but do not count out the the links between the soda and the disease. [/b]
I don&#39;t count them out as contributors.....just one of many factors....

In a free society one can advertise to their hearts content but it&#39;s up to the individual to decide what is best for them.....I look at commercials as cheap entertainment.....I&#39;m unlikely to buy the product but I enjoy the commercial.... :D