Is the world overpopulated?

[Salbert]

According to this article, the world population is expected to hit 6.5 billion people today. (Feb 25, 2006) (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11545564/)

This makes me wonder this: Is the world too overpopulated to live in a state of global economic equality?

[bunk]

No i don't think so. I believe it's a little bit of a myth. Parts of the world are over-concentrated with people but there's plenty of space where they could live.

[anomaly]

With current technology, we (humanity in general) can feed a population twelve times the side of earth. (of course, this doesn't happen...but that's capitalism for you).

If we can do that with food, we certainly can do it with anything else. And this is now, just think how much we will be able to produce years from now when communism actually exists.

World population is no obstacle to a free and equal society.

[Orthodox Marxist]

According to many studies I have read the earth is capable of supporting 12 billion people at maximum It would be interesting to see what happens when we reach that point.

[Tormented by Treachery]

Originally posted by Libertarian [email protected] 26 2006, 04:12 PM
According to many studies I have read the earth is capable of supporting 12 billion people at maximum It would be interesting to see what happens when we reach that point.
The problem with the whole "we have enough food for this amount" argument is that it doesn't take many things into account. The rich and even bourgeois capitalists pay someone to fatten a pig or cow to the point of saturation and then slaughter it for food. In the case of the pig, we see that something like an African village could be fed for a month on the food needed to raise the pig to the level where it could feed an American nuclear family for a week. Thus, with all of the rich scum eating these types of food, there are billions underfed, malnourished, or starving.

[ColinH]

If human population growth does reach a point where it is uncontrolled and unsustainable, it will naturally decrease just as any other species would.

[Zero]

By the time we reach 12 billion, I believe we will allready be spewing ourselves onto other planets... Or the space elevator will be created.

[VermontLeft]

By the time we reach 12 billion, I believe we will allready be spewing ourselves onto other planets...

I dont believe that. theres no money in exploring other planets and its very expensive.

the reason that we dont go to the moon anymore is that without the soviets to compete with, theres no motivation for the government to spend cash on rockets when they could put it in their pocket instead. <_<

well probably get 12 billion in less then the next 200 years cause the rate of growing is growing. and the more people there are the more motivation there is for revolution.

more people means more threat and so the capitalists will hoard more and that will only increase suffering and that will lead to revolution.

capitalism will never feed the planet, but a communist society could probably. :)

[Zak]

In a society where all people actually work to produce something, it seems like people become a resource and the more the better, up to the point where it dosent hurt the earth and take things beyond their ability to be replinished.

[Atlas Swallowed]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2006, 07:06 PM
With current technology, we (humanity in general) can feed a population twelve times the side of earth. (of course, this doesn&#39;t happen...but that&#39;s capitalism for you).

If we can do that with food, we certainly can do it with anything else. And this is now, just think how much we will be able to produce years from now when communism actually exists.

World population is no obstacle to a free and equal society.
That in my opinion is the greatest evil of Capitalism. The starvation of fellow humanbeings so the rich can proffit. It makes me want to throw up, scream and cry when I think about it. Dying of starvation is slow and painful. Watching ones children die must be about the greatest hell one could ever go through.

Famine at the level we have been seeing it is new to history and is being done purposly.

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/food_for_...sm_jb_1995.html (http://www.schillerinstitute.org/food_for_peace/kiss_nssm_jb_1995.html)

I am glad no one here supporting the position that the world is overpopulated.

[Eoin Dubh]

What are your thoughts on English political economist, Thomas Robert Malthus ?
Anyone?

[Atlas Swallowed]

Yeah, they had whack jobs back then too :)

All his theories on population have been proven wrong.

[Zero]

I agree with you Atlas. Starvation through hunger or thirst would be the most horrible death imagineable.

However what makes me puke to even think about is the fact that there are people who are starving on the streets every day in the USA. The USA&#33; The self-proclaimed "Best country in the world" has people who are living for their next meal.

[Floyce White]

I find it hilarious that some people whine and fret about "overpopulation." If they "really cared," they would kill themselves now.

[KC]

What are your thoughts on English political economist, Thomas Robert Malthus ?
Anyone?

Depressing, yet wrong about many things.

[Guerrilla22]

The world is way overpopulated and it seems like the apathetic and ignorant kee p reproducing in large numbers.

[jacob.booth]

yes.

they are taking my oxygen, eating my food and drinking my water. i&#39;m hoping that a comet will hit soon and flush it all away. you know... something we can blame on the heavens and not on ourselves.

maybe some darwinian thing needs to go down so that all the fatties and smokers are eradicated. maybe a race of some sort.

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but seriously, i believe that the earth will balance out as needed. common sense tells us that the exponential growth of our species cannot be contained by the earth in the following years. carrying capacity is the issue. in many cases carrying capacity can be exceeded only to come crashing back down to reality. -- i don&#39;t think we&#39;ll see the effects for a while, but i do think we need to start worrying about it soon. maybe we can fix the problems with some 16 year old abortions or something like that.

in my opinion italy has the right idea.

[Zero]

Maybe we should just deport all the ciggarette people to China and India. If anyone knows how to eradicate people legaly, its them... and heck, I might be able to breathe freely at school again&#33; :o

[Orthodox Marxist]

Maybe we should just deport all the ciggarette people to China and India. If anyone knows how to eradicate people legaly, its them... and heck, I might be able to breathe freely at school again&#33;

What a great statement kill all the smokers (sarcasm) you bloody stalinists.

[Atlas Swallowed]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 08:27 AM
Maybe we should just deport all the ciggarette people to China and India. If anyone knows how to eradicate people legaly, its them... and heck, I might be able to breathe freely at school again&#33; :o
I am going outside and light one up in your honor :)

Cigarette people? I believe the term is smokers :rolleyes:

[Atlas Swallowed]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 06:48 AM
The world is way overpopulated and it seems like the apathetic and ignorant kee p reproducing in large numbers.
Since you believe this maybe you should abstain from sex or you can just masturbate. It is true that you can not get your hand pregnant. Mine swelled up once from over use and I was fooled for awhile but no pregnancy. The piss test was negative :(

Obviously you have not read the previous posts the world can handle the population if it is run correctly. The problem is not population but the shit that runs the world.

[Djehuti]

The world is not overpopulated, capitalism is.

[jacob.booth]

we don&#39;t need to kill off the smokers... they&#39;ll handle that themselves...

and they&#39;ll do it at the hand of philip morris... there has to be some kind of sweet irony in there.

[Atlas Swallowed]

Sound the trumpets the smoking nazis are arriving :rolleyes:

I roll my own so Phillip Morriss is not killing me :)

[jacob.booth]

i think you miss my point. i think that there are too many people on this planet already, so i encourage them to smoke. ;D

[Atlas Swallowed]

To jacob.booth:

Since that is your belief do not be a hypocrite find and sturdy piece of rope and hang yourself :lol:

I like to help people and would be more than happy to assist you but since I really do not want to be locked in a cage for the rest of my life you will have to do the dirty deed yourself :)

[dusk]

Well in the way we are going now.
The world is gonna be a real large sauna soon.
I ask myself, is there enough oxygen to breathe for 12 billion people? :mellow:

[Atlas Swallowed]

Thats a good point and another reason to destroy the Capitalist system :)

[Xian]

The populations are growing faster and faster, and if this continues then many will die just (as someone already said^) as any other species would.

However, knowing this, and with the technology we have today, it is possible we can deter that and save them. It&#39;s all a matter of education on birth control. This is why there are so many charities for Africa. It is very important that the people are taught how having sex without control will (and now) lead to an incredible amount of death and suffering.

The population of the US would be going down if it wasn&#39;t for immigration (mainly from Mexico.). Much of Europe has declining populations. The reason is because the people are educated on birth control and know how to use it. Right now the biggest problem is getting the people to embrace it. Because if they don&#39;t know what it is, they&#39;re not going to look for it when it&#39;s time to have sex.

So as of right now? No, the world overall is not overpopulated, only certain areas are. It&#39;s important that the areas that have technology make it their responsibility to introduce it to others and save them.

{By the way, the exponential surge of population rates was predicted around 1700 I think, by someone who&#39;s name I can&#39;t recall. He thought that we would run out of food before we fed everyone. AT the time (like most behind our time), he did not foresee our technology, including the efficiancy of food production, and of course, birth control.

As for our future, who knows? To me, it only seems natural that we emerge from the water, come down from the trees, and eventually, move out past the sky...}
~peace~