Entrails Konfetti
21st February 2006, 02:44
From Luxemburgs Perspective (http://www.redstar2000papers.com/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1139624178&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&)
Originally posted by Redstar2000
I think I've made it pretty clear what I think should be done...but, of course, others might think up much better stuff than I ever did or will.
Where do you state this? All I recall reading is that you think all of us should take different courses of actions than " Traditional Political work".
All we hear from all the Leninist parties these days is "run for office" and "do trade union stuff"...what the social democrats were doing back in 1908!
Then what do you suggest?
You claim to have an idea, do tell.
Do you want to keep trying to do what she (Rosa Luxemburg) proposed or are you willing to look for alternatives?
Looking for alternatives, too!
What I'm wondering is that since it took awhile for the artisian and merchant classes to rule the state, and they got to that point by developing the means of production to their advantage so that they could no longer be under the thumb of the Monarchs, will it be necessary for the means of production to change in order for the prolitariat to take power?
We don't really have much influence on designing new means of production, we don't call the shots for a new and improved model of a machine.
Does this mean we have to wait for the total monopolization of capital?
Originally posted by Redstar2000
I think I've made it pretty clear what I think should be done...but, of course, others might think up much better stuff than I ever did or will.
Where do you state this? All I recall reading is that you think all of us should take different courses of actions than " Traditional Political work".
All we hear from all the Leninist parties these days is "run for office" and "do trade union stuff"...what the social democrats were doing back in 1908!
Then what do you suggest?
You claim to have an idea, do tell.
Do you want to keep trying to do what she (Rosa Luxemburg) proposed or are you willing to look for alternatives?
Looking for alternatives, too!
What I'm wondering is that since it took awhile for the artisian and merchant classes to rule the state, and they got to that point by developing the means of production to their advantage so that they could no longer be under the thumb of the Monarchs, will it be necessary for the means of production to change in order for the prolitariat to take power?
We don't really have much influence on designing new means of production, we don't call the shots for a new and improved model of a machine.
Does this mean we have to wait for the total monopolization of capital?