Genocide incitement?

[Atlas Swallowed]

How is saying the holocaust never exisited inciting genocide? Is saying that a robbery never took place inciting someone to steal? Ahmadinejad is going to be brought up with charges in the world court for inciting genocide. If the goal was to top Ahmadinejad in stupidity this effort is a sucess.

If a national leader were to say that Native American genocide by the USA never occured, he or she would be concidered a fool. They would not be brought up with incitment of genocide. The charge is absurd. These people need to be told that Jewish life is equal to all other human life and not greater than. Why are racial supremicists like these pandered to?


http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/684426.html

[boosh logic]

It may be that those people who deny the holocaust are doing so from the angle of saying that there was no problem with what went on, and that the Jews are hiding behind that event. In this way it could be said that by saying that what happened was not a holocaust, or that there was nothing wrong with it, it may encourage others to think likewise. For example, if a robbery occured and a car was stolen, and people were saying that it is not robbery, then it may cause someone to think about stealing a car the next time they see one, as they have been told there are no repercussions (before anyone argues this, the car is irrelevant, it is not the context but what is being said). Some could take the denial of a holocaust to mean therefore that the mass killing of Jews (and any ethnic group/race, for that matter) is acceptable, and then a spiral of racial hatred could ensue.

Needless to say, the Holocaust did happen, and is one of the worst demonstrations of human evil ever seen on such a large scale. While you are right in your claim that saying it never happened does not neccessarily mean inciting genocide, I think that the main aim of those who deny it is to anger the Jews, much like taunting on the playground to provoke a fight. These are very delicate issues however, and the persecution of those who claim this may be to make an example of those who do aim to incite racial hatred.

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[adenoid hynkel]

Originally posted by boosh [email protected] 20 2006, 09:47 PM
For example, if a robbery occured and a car was stolen, and people were saying that it is not robbery, then it may cause someone to think about stealing a car the next time they see one, as they have been told there are no repercussions (before anyone argues this, the car is irrelevant, it is not the context but what is being said).
So what? Should we persecute people who deny that a robbery took place for inciting robbery?

[loveme4whoiam]

No; but when they are saying that the robbery never happened in order to get more people to commit robberies, then yes.

[adenoid hynkel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 10:40 PM
No; but when they are saying that the robbery never happened in order to get more people to commit robberies, then yes.
And who can know which is the motive of a person who claims that a robbery did not happen? Anyway I think that if you really mean that people who say that a robbery never happened should be persecuted, then this discussion is no longer serious.

[Atlas Swallowed]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 10:40 PM
No; but when they are saying that the robbery never happened in order to get more people to commit robberies, then yes.
If you said stealing is not robbery take whatever you wnat from whomever you want then yes but saying a robbery did not occur is not incitement. It is the same thing with the holocaust. No one has been encouraged to go out and murder Jewish people by this statement. However foolish the statement was that an event in history did not occur. If I told you that Stalin did not murder any of his people you would not take that as a liscense to kill Russians unless you are a fucking idiot.

This is more about demonizing a leader of a nation so that they can try to justify an unjust war. Israel and the USA want to attack Iran and the shit is getting thick. They are pulling any excuse out of thier asses for the war. This is the same garbage they pulled with Iraq. Saddam is evil lets destroy a whole nation because of it :blink: