i am failing to understand what the proletariat is [Archive]

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ice-picked

20th February 2006, 07:08

i am new to the concept but facinated by communism and marxism
so please help me and someone defne "Proletariat" for me
thnx

ColinH

20th February 2006, 08:58

The proletariat is the class that does not own or have access to the means of production, and so they must sell their labour to the bourgeousie as a way of survival.

I guess that is the simple definition.

ComradeOm

20th February 2006, 11:03

The workers.

redflag32

20th February 2006, 12:04

anyone who has to sell there labor for a wage,working class!

ice-picked

20th February 2006, 18:14

k thnx :D

Lamanov

20th February 2006, 18:27

Wage Labor and Capital, by Karl Marx (http://marxists.anu.edu.au/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/index.htm)

Livetrueordie

21st February 2006, 01:17

I could tell your new to the concept because you quote Stalin

ice-picked

21st February 2006, 03:56

i dont fully agree with stalin but i agree with some of his ideals

Zero

24th February 2006, 19:45

Which ones? The dictatorship ones or the greedy ones?

ComradeOm

25th February 2006, 01:16

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2006, 01:44 AM
I could tell your new to the concept because you quote Stalin
Stalin did have an excellent insight into human nature and a real knack for the handy quotes.

ice-picked

25th February 2006, 01:41

and who says trotsky wouldnt have become as power hungry and greedy as stalin had trotsky been put into power
stalin just beat him in a race for supremacy

Storming Heaven

25th February 2006, 02:10

'Proletariat' seems to be one of those words with a double meaning. Often it simply means the working class in general, that is, all those who make a living by selling their labour, rather than owning capital. more narrowly it is often used in reference to the industrial working class, i.e. factory workers and related occupations.