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Ol' Dirty
19th February 2006, 05:33
The basic concept of E-democracy (or E-mocracy, or whatever clever titles you can concieve) is to involve the general poulation in the societal advancement process through electronic media in a direct democacy. All people with access to the internet could take part in the direct governance of their society through messaging boards, and the like.

The major problems would be internet vandalism and the lack of people with acces to the adequte technology.

I'd like to get a general consensus on what peoples views are, and some constructive criticism on this reletively new theory.

Sentinel
19th February 2006, 05:55
Well it's most likely the kind of way things will be handled in the future, in my opinion.
The internet is an awesome tool, and it's definitely here to stay.


internet vandalism

This will undoubtedly be a problem. Nothing a bunch of clever communists can't handle, though, I'm sure! :)


the lack of people with acces to the adequte technology.

E-democracy, and true democracy in general, will of course first emerge when the revolution happens.

I'm rather convinced that the revolution will start in the "first world", where everybody has, or will have when the time comes, computer access.

I'm certain that technological development will play a major role in the revolution, and the creation of the future communist society.

After the revolution in the industrialised countries and the destruction of imperialism,
mankind will be able to help each other out in a way yet unseen in history.

The technology, the education, and the communist way of life will spread across the globe.

This will be the glorious age of communist brotherhood on planet earth.

Ol' Dirty
19th February 2006, 06:46
I agree.

encephalon
19th February 2006, 07:54
One might want to consider the fact that what we call "the internet" now will likely be radically different by the time it's fully integrated into society, and likely won't suffer the same problems we face now (as much, anyhow). You could make a comparison to written documents, in a way.. until mass produced documents were available, it wasn't possible to run a "republic" in the manner bourgeoisie states are run now.

Between the time written documentation first started to come into use and the period in which it became integral to governance (that is, from sumerian times during the agricultural revolution all the way up to only a few centuries ago when the gutenberg press arose!), the material conditions had a lot of catching up to use it in a practical sense for massive undertakings.

Not saying it isn't possible; on the contrary, it's necessary. Nor am I saying that it's as long a time in the coming as it was between the agricultural revolution and capitalism. Technology moves at an increasingly rapid pace. I'm merely stating that what we call the internet now will likely be sincerely archaic compared to what we'll have in the future when we use it for such purposes.

Which actually leads me to something a bit off-topic (kinda) that I was considering today: it's almost incomprehensible that a mere 25 years ago, atari was the top of the line, most realistic gaming system. If such trends continue, imagine the internet 25 years from now. The implications are startling.

Sentinel
19th February 2006, 08:13
Originally posted by encephalon
Which actually leads me to something a bit off-topic (kinda) that I was considering today: it's almost incomprehensible that a mere 25 years ago, atari was the top of the line, most realistic gaming system. If such trends continue, imagine the internet 25 years from now. The implications are startling.

You are of course right. We can't even try to grasp the nature of future technology,
without sounding like crappy science fiction writers or something.. :lol:

And in 2031 we'll propably laugh at the memories of trying to do that.

But if playing Nostradamus is allowed, I'd say that virtual reality will be a part of the future internet, on tomorrows message boards we might sit in a ring, talking to projections of each other, the sub-forums might be different rooms and so on. :o

Imagine! I'm also quite certain that cybernetics will change everything for us, microchips can make our brains able to be online all the time..

While some see the blending of man and machine as something frightening, I consider it awesome, and something we should embrace. :)

Ol' Dirty
19th February 2006, 21:08
Originally posted by The Sentinel+Feb 19 2006, 08:40 AM--> (The Sentinel @ Feb 19 2006, 08:40 AM)



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encephalon
Which actually leads me to something a bit off-topic (kinda) that I was considering today: it's almost incomprehensible that a mere 25 years ago, atari was the top of the line, most realistic gaming system. If such trends continue, imagine the internet 25 years from now. The implications are startling.


You are of course right. We can't even try to grasp the nature of future technology,
without sounding like crappy science fiction writers or something.. :lol:

Hey man! I write science fiction! :lol: In fact, I love the stuff. Right now I'm reading Foundation (I haven't been reading much lately).


And in 2031 we'll propably laugh at the memories of trying to do that.

Probably not. People will always wonder what will happen in the future. As long as we do, scinece fiction will be around.


But if playing Nostradamus is allowed, I'd say that virtual reality will be a part of the future internet, on tomorrows message boards we might sit in a ring, talking to projections of each other, the sub-forums might be different rooms and so on. :o

Imagine! I'm also quite certain that cybernetics will change everything for us, microchips can make our brains able to be online all the time..

While some see the blending of man and machine as something frightening, I consider it awesome, and something we should embrace. :)

I couldn't agree more.