Che Day

[Abood]

What do you guys think of proposing a Che Day to the UN?!
There are days of all sorts of things, but theres no day to remember such a great comrade.

[fernando]

Hmm...to me it doesnt fit too well with Che's character or even with his ideology. Like Che's last word: "shoot me Im only a man" were so should he be perceived. Sure he made a major impact on many and can be considered one of the "truest" revolutionaries of the 20th century, but he was only a man, we dont have to add up to the personality cult built around him. Kind of weird...we're all "equal" yet some get a personality cult.

[Abood]

Che was very modest, thats why he didnt mind being shot. But promoting a day such as Che Day would mean support for communism. We should atleast have an official Cuban Revolution day, which is better than the stupid holidays such as "Cake day" or "electric guitar day" <<yeh those days do exist.

[fernando]

I think "Che day" would end up being a holiday surrounding a personality cultus which is something wrong in the communist ideology since we are all equal. (well some are more equal right?) You could turn it into I dont know...Revolution Day or something to honour all the great revolutionary figures who fought for a better world.

[Abood]

Revolution Day would be too vague and some people would want to celebrate assholes such ass Hitler claiming that they wanted a better world.

[fernando]

Well you want it to be a worldwide holiday like Christmas or something? I doubt you would get that much support for that. I doubt capitalist nations would want to celebrate Che Day...perhaps a figure like Bolivar would be more fitting?

[Comrade Ben]

I kinda like the idea of a "Cuban Nationals" day....oh, his last word were "shoot coward, you&#39;re only going to kill a man", by the way.

[cccpcommie]

mixed feelings on this one..che was a great man but only a man..he wasnt a liberator..people liberated themselves...BUT he was one of few who did structurly organize the people

[razboz]

Even though i dont really like the idea of placing one man over the others, a potential Che Day would help for the education of some people who may not have heard of him or his ideas. However, the capitalist countries would never allow such a thing to occur, as it would weaken their power and credibility.

[Abood]

mixed feelings on this one..che was a great man but only a man..he wasnt a liberator..people liberated themselves...BUT he was one of few who did structurly organize the people
those are my feelings as well.


However, the capitalist countries would never allow such a thing to occur, as it would weaken their power and credibility.
well, if the idea fails, then atleast we would have proven that cappies dont want freedom :) a worldwide proof...

[Janus]

I agree that a day celebrating a revolutionary kind of leans towards a personality cult. Also, disseminating information about Che would be better than creating his own day. Cappies will probably reject this rather than try to learn more about Che or they may just read the biased accounts of Che&#39;s life.

[razboz]

Better even than dissemenating information about Che, would be to dessiminate information about Communism, and the various failings of capitalism. Concentrating on one man to symbolise the entire revolution because howver great Che was, he was just a man and so long as the revolution remains personified in Che our oppnents will find endless flaws, real or not, to plague and bring us down.

[Hopes_Guevara]

Originally posted by Socialist [email protected] 17 2006, 01:34 PM
What do you guys think of proposing a Che Day to the UN?&#33;
There are days of all sorts of things, but theres no day to remember such a great comrade.
First off, your proposal of a Che Day will never be possible to the UN. How is the UN consisting of many the capitalist nations can accept a "Che Day"?

And if you want you can provide a "Che Day" for yourself. Like me, June 14 every year is my "Che Day".

[Abood]

First off, your proposal of a Che Day will never be possible to the UN. How is the UN consisting of many the capitalist nations can accept a "Che Day"?
if we prove that he was a great man, and they decline it, then it&#39;s motivation for us to hate them even more. It&#39;s kind of a win win situation - you either win a great day, or proof to people that capitalism sux.

[razboz]

Who would propose it anyway? Only the leaders or represtatives of sovreign states can speak in the assembly, unless they are very established and have a very established organisation behind them.

[Abood]

Who would propose it anyway? Only the leaders or represtatives of sovreign states can speak in the assembly, unless they are very established and have a very established organisation behind them.
Cuba? :blush: let&#39;s send a letter to Fidel :D

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by Socialist [email protected] 17 2006, 01:53 PM
better than the stupid holidays such as "Cake day" or "electric guitar day" <<yeh those days do exist.
whats wrong with cake or electric guitars. id celebrate both of them&#33; espesh if it meant eating cake (with no meat products) and playing guitar all day&#33;
never forget: cake and electric guitars RULE

[Angry Young Man]

what about "peoples&#39; day" on lenin&#39;s birthday? or marx? or even on 28/6 (if anyone doesnt know the significance of that date, i will brain them&#33;)

[ReD_ReBeL]

NO NO, we should not by any means have a &#39;Che Day&#39;. Che is a marxist, he believed he was just the same as any everyday citizen.The only difference is that he pushed the boundaries for the sake of the people. Then when thm boundaries came down and the communist party took power, it was the people who made sure the system would work ie. working to keep the country going. Theres already a day that Che would be proud of &#39;May Day&#39; the workers day. Yes Che admired Stalin but he also critizied him for creating a &#39;Cult of Personality&#39; , So how would Che feel if we created an official &#39;cult of personality&#39; for him?

As Lenin once said:
"All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, against the elevation of the single person, and long ago we were over and done with the business of a hero, and here it comes up again: the glorification of one personality. This is not good at all. I am just like everybody else." -V.I.Lenin

[Abood]

NO NO, we should not by any means have a &#39;Che Day&#39;. Che is a marxist, he believed he was just the same as any everyday citizen.The only difference is that he pushed the boundaries for the sake of the people. Then when thm boundaries came down and the communist party took power, it was the people who made sure the system would work ie. working to keep the country going. Theres already a day that Che would be proud of &#39;May Day&#39; the workers day. Yes Che admired Stalin but he also critizied him for creating a &#39;Cult of Personality&#39; , So how would Che feel if we created an official &#39;cult of personality&#39; for him?
that&#39;s true, but we need to have a special day, a well known day for the cuban revolution.. to englighten people and show them how great communism actually is&#33;


whats wrong with cake or electric guitars. id celebrate both of them&#33; espesh if it meant eating cake (with no meat products) and playing guitar all day&#33;
theyre just commercial holidays made by cappies to get money out of ur wallet. u can eat cakes and play guitar 365 days a year (366 in leap years). why just do it on one day&#33;?

[Janus]

that&#39;s true, but we need to have a special day, a well known day for the cuban revolution.. to englighten people and show them how great communism actually is&#33;

We&#39;ve got May Day, which is a great day to disseminate information about communism or leftism in general. As for a day to celebrate the Cuban Revolution, I doubt that another nation will be willing to celebrate a revolution of another nation.


It&#39;s kind of a win win situation - you either win a great day, or proof to people that capitalism sux.
Not really, the ruling class can easily spread lies about Che. This would quickly ruin Che&#39;s image in the eyes of those who don&#39;t know anything about him. Best thing to do is just try to raise awareness and battle against the lies spewed by capitalists out there. Let people take their own intiative though it&#39;s helpful if you do give them a gentle push along the way sometimes.

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by Socialist [email protected] 20 2006, 06:47 PM

NO NO, we should not by any means have a &#39;Che Day&#39;. Che is a marxist, he believed he was just the same as any everyday citizen.The only difference is that he pushed the boundaries for the sake of the people. Then when thm boundaries came down and the communist party took power, it was the people who made sure the system would work ie. working to keep the country going. Theres already a day that Che would be proud of &#39;May Day&#39; the workers day. Yes Che admired Stalin but he also critizied him for creating a &#39;Cult of Personality&#39; , So how would Che feel if we created an official &#39;cult of personality&#39; for him?
that&#39;s true, but we need to have a special day, a well known day for the cuban revolution.. to englighten people and show them how great communism actually is&#33;


whats wrong with cake or electric guitars. id celebrate both of them&#33; espesh if it meant eating cake (with no meat products) and playing guitar all day&#33;
theyre just commercial holidays made by cappies to get money out of ur wallet. u can eat cakes and play guitar 365 days a tear (366 in leap years). why just do it on one day&#33;?
so u could eat lots of cake at low cost&#33; i think the cappies are making more money out of any random day from bday/ wedding/xmas cakes. and although there probably is a profit motive behind the guitar festivals in london and bath (where i live&#33; :P ), its really just guitarists uniting and learning to open their minds. but back to cakes, are the petty bourgeios really worth alienating. we just need to convince them it would work better as a co-op.

[drain.you]

Che was very modest, thats why he didnt mind being shot.
lol. what the fuck.

[Abood]

lol. what the fuck.
Lol, sorry, when I read it again, I was like: what on earth was I talking about...
Ok, here&#39;s what i meant:
If Che was very vain and thought that he&#39;s the only person who&#39;s gonna save the world, he wouldv&#39;e not allowed someone to shoot him...
but he knew that he&#39;s just one person, and that many people will follow him and revolt..
so he didn&#39;t care.

[Guerrilla22]

They celebrate day of the heoric guerrilla on oct. 8 in Cuba, Che&#39;s last day of battle. We should start holding celebrations here in the us.

[Communism]

I think a Che Day would be good but I have no idea on how to propose this. Surely the government would not allow it, however it would just cover it up and say it was because there are other more important days, che guevara was a "terrorist" etc. They wouldn&#39;t admit it was because they were scared about people learning the merits of communism so either way you would not win.

[ComradeOm]

Edit: Agggh long dead post.

[Maitham]

I think that is a great IDEA&#33;&#33; it will be a day representing all Obressed People around the world... I live in Geneva close to the UN HQ... Lets see what we can do about it...

Your friend
Maitham

[Nicky Scarfo]

Hey, I remember that song. That&#39;s the one featuring Snoop Dogg, right? And they were making fun of Eazy-E in the video.

[Mariam]

I think we are celebrating a Che day every day as long as we carry on the fight&#33;
Any way do you think that the UN will agree to devote a day for Che?
That&#39;s a matter of doubt..

[Big Boss]

He wouldn&#39;t approve of it and he would probably say: "I&#39;m not worthy of such a title". He had an admirably humble personality.