Political Situation in Vietnam

[ReD_ReBeL]

can someone inform me how the Communist Party of Vietnam are doing socialy to the country? whats the plans for the future of Vietnam? is the Communist Party full of revisionists and turning to a state capitalist form like China or has it allready? would be great if i got reply's cause im fairly interested in VietNam, would be amazing if a Vietnamese could respond to this too.

[chebol]

http://www.dsp.org.au/links/back/issue27/Karadjis.htm

[redstar2000]

A really excellent article!

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[chebol]

I'll pass on the compliment. Mike is back in Australia for the moment, although he's heading back to VN fairly soon to get back to work on his PhD (of basically the same topic).

You might also be interested in reading these two articles (actually, one is a Chinese CP internal letter) from the same issue of LINKS.

http://www.dsp.org.au/links/back/issue27/Cheng.htm
http://www.dsp.org.au/links/back/issue27/Hu_letter.htm

[Hopes_Guevara]

can someone inform me how the Communist Party of Vietnam are doing socialy to the country?
1. Still continuing the "Doi moi" (Innovation or Reform) policy what was brought into in the VI Congress of VCP in 1986 and carried out thoughout 20 years. In brief, this policy opened a new age for progressing the national economic, replaced the form of the planned economy with of the "opened" economy what are called now "the socialist-oriented market economy". The article 15 - The Vietnam Constitution provides:
"Article 15
The State promotes a multi-component commodity economy functioning in accordance with market mechanisms under the management of the State and following a socialist orientation. The multi-component economic structure with various forms of organisation of production and trading is based on a system of ownership by the entire people, by collectives, and by private individuals, of which ownership by the entire people and by collectives constitutes the foundation".

2. Improving the standard of living of people, especially the poor by the policy "Wiping the famine - Reducing the poverty". This year, the speed of increasing GDP is 8.4% and 2.5 times over 2000. The rate of the poor are reducing down over 20% from over 50% and VN is recognized as one of the best countries in carrying out the Milenium targets of UN.

3. Carrying out the policy of universalized and socialized education, of free healthcare for the children under 6 years old and free education for primary pulpils.

4. Launching judical reforms. Judicial reform work has achieved important results in recent years, contributing to overcoming weaknesses in the procedural processes of judicial agencies.

5. Attaching special importance to developing science and technology. Allowing sum of salary that a scientist can be paid raise 1000 - 2000 USD/month (this is a very large sum of salary in Vietnam. A average official in his first working year can be just paid about 50 USD/month).

6. Continuously exercising Socialist Democracy, trying to build a "Rich, Justice, Democratic and Civilized Society" .

These are some of the achieves VCP gained. However, there're many problems CVP are facing, such as: VN is still in the kind of the undeveloped countries, corruption, the retrograde and degenerate elements in CVP's members...


whats the plans for the future of Vietnam?

The 10th Congress of VCP will open quarter two of this year. Now, the draft political report of it has been making public to gather opinions from mass organizations and people. If you want to know what the plans of VCP are it'll be better that you should read fulltext of the draft report. It's sorry that I still have not found the English fulltext of it to give you. However, I can point out some of the plans in the draft report:
"To push up the renewal process in all fields, put into full use all possible resources and speed up national industrialisation and modernisation" are major orientations the draft has designed for the nation to reach the 2006-2010 economic growth goals.

"To broaden external relations and take initiative and make active efforts in integrating into the global economy while maintaining socio-political stability" are other steps Vietnam plans to take to become an industrialised country by 2020.

With the GDP expected to increase 2.1 times over 2000, the per-capita GDP growth rate is likely to hit between 7.5 and 8% or even higher in each of the next five years.

The draft vowed to complete a legal system for a socialist-oriented market economy, strongly liberate labour forces, and promote a knowledge economy while conserving and upgrading the environment and ecological systems.

Greater efforts should be made for further development of agriculture and rural economies, services and the construction sector so as to build a modern infrastructural system, according to the draft report.

Culture, social issues and human resources developments are other concerns of the draft, with the primary focus on quality. It classified education and training, science and technology, job generation and public healthcare that includes birth control as issues of primary importance for social and human resources development. It also calls for conserving and promoting traditional culture in the interest of a healthy society.

"Strengthening the national defence capacity to maintain national security and firmly safeguard the homeland should go along with expanding and diversifying external relations," said the draft report.

"Continuously exercising Socialist democracy, speeding up political renewal, strengthening the Party's leadership and combat capability, building a State of law towards Socialism, and increasing the efficiency of State management while promoting the role of Fatherland Front and other mass organisations are necessary to strengthen national unity," the Party's draft political report concluded."


is the Communist Party full of revisionists and turning to a state capitalist form like China or has it allready?

I know most of the members on this forum will say "Yes". And I think, maybe you think so. But I can be sure that VN is going steps rightly on the path to socialism. VN always keep firmly the target of socialism.


would be great if i got reply's cause im fairly interested in VietNam

Good and thanks :) .


would be amazing if a Vietnamese could respond to this too.

Well, I am a Vietnamese :D .

[ReD_ReBeL]

Thanks for the replys folks it was just what i was looking for.

(Hopes_Guevara)

3. Carrying out the policy of universalized and socialized education, of free healthcare for the children under 6 years old and free education for primary pulpils.

Does this mean free health care and education isn't free to all?

Also i read that Vietnam is joining/or joined the World Trade Organisation(WTO)

Hopes_Guevara do you still live in Vietnam?

[Hopes_Guevara]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2006, 05:01 PM
Thanks for the replys folks it was just what i was looking for.

Does this mean free health care and education isn't free to all?



Yes, they aren't now. You know, our national economic potential is not enough to pay for all. We had applied the free health and education in the age of the planned economy before 1986 but finally the quality of them was still so weak and bad. Now they are better than before. I hope that we will have free heathcare and education within 10 years.

Also i read that Vietnam is joining/or joined the World Trade Organisation(WTO)
Vietnam are carrying out the talks for joining WTO. The Government hopes to be a member of it next November. Now we are facing many difficulties with US. They requires so many standards and conditions which they even didn't apply to China. Mainly US want VN to open the financial market and telecommunication. The point of VN is not to meet this. However, the Government said that now VN and US are achieving good agreements.

Hopes_Guevara do you still live in Vietnam?
Yes, I do. I have never left it <_< .

[WUOrevolt]

Hopes Guevara, please keep us informed on the situitation in Vietnam, it owuld be great to have a first hand experience telling us info.

[Hopes_Guevara]

Yes, I will be very glad to do that.

Well, if you care about political situation in VN, you may visit the following websites:

The Communist Party of Vietnam (http://www.cpv.org.vn/index_e.html)

Vietnam News Agency (http://news.vnanet.vn/defaultA.asp)

Vietnamnet (http://english.vietnamnet.vn/)

[redstar2000]

How grim is it? Look at this one...

VN labour export to Saudi Arabia expanding (http://english.vietnamnet.vn/social/2006/02/542908/)

Or this...

VietNamNet – After upsetting readers with creations on sex in 2005, Vietnamese writers now seem more discreet. (http://english.vietnamnet.vn/lifestyle/2006/02/543240/)

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[great_sephiroth]

How grim is it? Look at this one...
So, What do you want ?
Vietnam has a large population - its now 83 million people in a area is a quater of France. And Vietnam has no more employment for labour, if the labour work in Arabia or Malaysia, Taiwan, they could earn a month salary same amount they work three or four months in Vietnam

[Janus]

Concerning the debate going on in Vietnam itself


Originally posted by BBC News+--> (BBC News)But Vietnamese media have been absorbed since the end of January in a difficult and sensitive debate - over the leadership of the Communist Party, or rather a lack of it.

Online news services and newspapers have run discussion forums and printed articles containing questions which were impossible to ask a few years ago.

The debate had become so heated that the party&#39;s newspaper has recently stepped in to try to prevent it from "running in a dangerous and harmful way".

It all began early this year with a formal request by the party leadership for people&#39;s views on its political platform in the run-up to its 10th National Congress, expected to take place in the next few months.

This has provided a rare opportunity for many intellectuals, journalists, lawyers and even government officials to criticise what is perceived to be widespread corruption and abuse of power by a number of the party mandarins.

For example, economist Bui Kien Thanh said on a webcast talk show on Vietnamnet, one of the country&#39;s leading online news services, that "if the party is genuinely serious about democracy, they must allow Vietnamese people to choose their political leadership".
Another guest speaker, Nguyen Dinh Luong, also made very direct comments, saying: "There have been many lies about the government&#39;s economic achievement, and in general, a lot of political diseases in the system, due to bad policies and poor leadership."

Nguyen Dinh Luong is no dissident, but a high government official who represented Vietnam at the US-Vietnamese Trade Agreement negotiations some years back.

In the south, pro-reformist Tuoi Tre newspaper has launched a series of articles by Nguyen Trung, a former diplomat and currently an adviser to Prime Minister Phan Van Khai.

These have criticised "lack of democracy" in the party, and claim it has lost its direction after two decades of economic reforms.

Online users have flooded Tuoi Tre&#39;s forum with comments about Nguyen Trung&#39;s views.

Some have gone so far as to question the party&#39;s control over government departments and over almost every aspect of the economy.

The Communist Party of Vietnam currently has a final say in the nomination of all senior government officials to important posts in all ministries and state-owned co-operations, where many corruption cases have recently been investigated.

Gambling scandal

In January, Vietnamese police arrested Bui Tien Dung, a senior government official who was alleged to have bet more than &#036;2m (£1.1m) of state money in illegal football gambling.

Such cases have given the forum participants the opportunity to make their point.

Recently the debate has moved from underground bulletins and online letters by dissidents and religious groups to public life.

And more people have joined the discussion, by sending out letters to the media to call for political change. Some have even called for a pluralistic political system.
"Pluralism has worked well in economy over the last 20 years, now it&#39;s time to try political pluralism too," Le Cong Dinh, a lawyer in Ho Chi Minh City, told the BBC&#39;s Vietnamese Service.

Such talk must be alarming the conservative faction in the party. In a late February issue of Nhan Dan newspaper, the party&#39;s chief ideologue, Nguyen Duc Binh, launched an attack on those who had questioned the principle of socialism.

A better place to discuss socialism and the future of the party, he argued, should be an internal magazine, instead of in the national and regional press.

He said, for example, that a new plan to allow businessmen to join the party was "unnatural".

"Open discussion, through all sorts of letters disseminated around the country, is harmful," he said.

Nguyen Duc Binh&#39;s intervention suggests that those expecting a big change in Vietnamese politics may be wrong.

However, modern Vietnam has changed so much that it is difficult for the party to stick to the traditional interpretation of Marxism-Leninism. Do Ngoc Ninh, director of a party think-tank in Hanoi, dismissed Nguyen Duc Binh&#39;s view as "his own private opinion".

Twenty years of economic reform have also encouraged a number of young professionals, such as lawyers Le Cong Dinh, Le Quoc Quan and journalist Phan The Hai, to speak out about politics.

And, still in their mid-30s, they can afford to wait for change.[/b]

There is major corruption in the Vietnamese bureaucracy as well


BBC News
The Vietnamese transport minister has offered to resign and his deputy has been arrested amid a major official corruption scandal.
In a letter to the prime minister, Dao Dinh Binh accepted responsibility for the embezzlement of millions of dollars of state money by his staff.

His deputy, Nguyen Viet Tien, was arrested and his home was searched.

Ministry officials are accused of using money from construction projects and taking bribes.

They allegedly used the money to bet on football matches.

Ministerial resignations are extremely rare in Vietnam.

&#39;Economic violations&#39;

"I&#39;m very saddened and would like to take full responsibility for what happened at the ministry," the Tien Phong [Pioneer] newspaper quoted Mr Binh&#39;s resignation letter as saying.

Mr Binh was responsible for overseeing the Project Management Unit (PMU) 18, which funded highways, bridges and other infrastructure projects.

His deputy, Mr Tien, was arrested on charges of wrongdoing and violating the government&#39;s regulations on economic management.

It comes as the Vietnamese government is publicly cracking down on the country&#39;s endemic levels of corruption.

The anti-graft campaign has intensified ahead of the ruling Communist Party&#39;s five-yearly congress later this month.

Dr Nguyen Dinh Cu, author of a government study on corruption in Vietnam, told the BBC that Mr Binh&#39;s resignation was "a strong warning to those corrupted officials, that more than ever before, their crime will be punished".

In June 2004, Agriculture Minister Le Huy Ngo stepped down over a corruption case, the first to do so since the 1980s.