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BattleOfTheCowshed
13th February 2006, 22:30
So, although it is notoriously difficult to predict the future (human social development being as dynamic as it is), I was wondering: what are your predictions for what the world will look like in 50 years? What major changes will have happened? What will the geopolitical outlook be? Where will the US be? China? Europe? Latin America? Any leftist revolutions? Feel free to comment on 100 years from now as well if you wish. I just thought this thread would be interesting...

Ol' Dirty
14th February 2006, 01:31
Seeing how oil is peaking, there are probably going to be massive wars in which nations fight for oil reserves (more than now). That's the major event I see happening soon.

which doctor
14th February 2006, 01:53
In 50 years I see people in the midst of the revolution in the first world. In 100 years I see even more countries in the midst of the revolution.

Sentinel
14th February 2006, 01:58
I'd say the imperialists are going to be forced to more violent and atrocious strategies, and won't eventually even bother to justify their wars with lies anymore, this due to increased resistance to exploitation in "third world" countries.

I'd predict a development similar to the current anti-imperialist wave in South America will take place in other exploited regions.

The mask of western "democracy" will fall off totally, and in this way imperialism will reach it's final, most brutal stage.

Corporations will in every way consolidate their power over the state in the most western nations.

All this together with the unemployment and misery of the "first world" working class caused by outsourcing of jobs and automation of society will lead to the creation of a huge revolutionary popular movement.

If they'll overtrow the system within the next 50 years I dare not say, but definitely before the end of the century.

Nostradamus has spoken. :lol:

red_che
14th February 2006, 08:49
Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2006, 10:57 PM
So, although it is notoriously difficult to predict the future (human social development being as dynamic as it is), I was wondering: what are your predictions for what the world will look like in 50 years? What major changes will have happened? What will the geopolitical outlook be? Where will the US be? China? Europe? Latin America? Any leftist revolutions? Feel free to comment on 100 years from now as well if you wish. I just thought this thread would be interesting...
Ask Redstar, he's good at predicting things here. :D

He is the resident fortune-teller of RevLeft. :lol:

Well, as for me, I cannot predict what exactly will it look like in 50 years, much less 100 years. But, insofar as the trend of the working class movement today and the current situation of the Imperisalist countries, I can say that a lot of revolutions would happen.

How many? Can't tell.

But I would be more delighted to see if in my country, we are already building Socialism by that time, if I would be still alive. :D

Roses in the Hospital
14th February 2006, 10:17
Based on no evidence in particular....

China and the USA will be the new superpowers, either locked in a cold war of sorts, or cooperating to run the world between them.

Europe will come further together as a centrallised power, purelly to keep its head above water in compotition with the US and China.

South America will either have formed its own alliance against imperialism or will be totally under the boot of the US.

Liberal Democracy will have been eroded to the point where, in the US at least, it only exists in principal.

Technology will have moved on tremendouslly, in ways we can't imagine. Though I'm sure it'll be employed by the ruling classes to pacify the masses.

So, all in all an optomistic future, though like I say it's based on nothing other than my gut feeling

ricardsju
14th February 2006, 13:48
the United States of The American Empire: dying, fighting to keep its monopolys in past "allies".

the Union of United European States: fighting to keep up with china, politically bipolar, dodging the USA's last swipes of attack for its return to a superpower, trying to get a better deal than china has for oil with the middle east, alot of second thoughts over its role as a super power.

the North Asian Peoples Alliance: most northern asian countrys (apart from openly muslim ones), vying for control of the middle east and wining, "communism" ended, lite rightwing state capitalism, wining superpower fight.

the Commonwealth of Australia: tried to join with New zealand but NZ too "como", violent fascists take over and violent racist attacks or annexed by USA
New Zeland: politically bipolar till they fear genocide in AU goes leftwing.

the South American Union of States: politically bipolar, economically annexed & puppet of EU

the Commonwealth of Great Britain: could be physically-annexed, economically-annexed, culturally-annexed or all of them by the USA.

the Axis for Islamic Theocracy: making plans to turn the people of Europe to Islam so it can be part of their Theocracy, more likey to try to do the same to china after.


(side note i really don't think we will go past PC keyboards in the next 50 years as no-one can think of anything better apart from a plug being put into our heads)

ComradeOm
14th February 2006, 16:40
I&#39;d be impressed if anyone here could predict what the world will be like in five years time, never mind fifty <_<

RedAnarchist
14th February 2006, 17:42
In five years time I predict (based on no real facts whatsoever) -

A Democrat in the White House

Gordon Brown in Number 10

Bulgaria and Romania in the EU

Prince Charles will by now be King of the UK - the popularity of the monarchy will decrease

Liverpool will have won the Champions League a further two times, and the Premiership at least once

George Galloway will have finally stopped making the left look like a total joke

By this time the record temperature in Britain will have been set at 40C (it is currently 38C)

Palestine will be an independant state



These are just my predictions based on what i think might happen.

Amusing Scrotum
14th February 2006, 17:46
Originally posted by ComradeOm+Feb 14 2006, 05:07 PM--> (ComradeOm &#064; Feb 14 2006, 05:07 PM) I&#39;d be impressed if anyone here could predict what the world will be like in five years time, never mind fifty <_< [/b]

I hope that in five years time the ground will "look" two inches (at the very least) further away - I&#39;m due a "growth spurt". :lol:

As for the original question, I&#39;d say The Sentinel has offered the best prediction so far and one I almost completely agree with. :D


xphile2868
Liverpool will have won the Champions League a further two times, and the Premiership at least once

Idealism at its very worst&#33; :lol:

KickMcCann
14th February 2006, 18:59
I&#39;d say that in 100 years a cold war breaks out between the United States and European Union, who knows why exactly probably over resources and influences in other countries. But the E.U. will offer membership to Canada, and Canada will accept. Europe and the States will share a border, and the hostility will break out into a border war of sorts.
The vaccine for HIV/AIDS will have spread enough that Africa will begin to repopulate but capitalism will still hold a tight grip as the WTO and World Bank flood in to a even greater extent than now.
South America will consolidate itself to a greater extent and Bolivia will once again have territory on the Pacific coast.
Israel and Palestine will have reunited by then.
In China, the middle-classes will have grown to such an extent that either the CCP self-destructs or be overthrown into a bourgeois revolution.
And maybe, just maybe, at the end of 100 years we will begin to see Marx&#39;s predictions fulfill themselves and the proletarian will successfully begin the process of expropriating the means of productions and political power.

eh, who knows? Its just for fun

violencia.Proletariat
14th February 2006, 22:40
Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2006, 09:58 PM
Seeing how oil is peaking, there are probably going to be massive wars in which nations fight for oil reserves (more than now). That&#39;s the major event I see happening soon.
Unrealistic. Oil isnt peaking, and you dont know when its going to. 1st world nations dont fight wars against each other anymore, or humans wouldnt be here anymore(nuclear weapons).

Ol' Dirty
14th February 2006, 23:54
Dude, yes it is. Just look at these graphs:

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
http://www.energybulletin.net/primer.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubbert_peak

World oil reserves are collapsing; fast. Some time in the future, sometime real soon, the worlds oil-based economy is going to collapse, and it isn&#39;t going to be pretty.

Why are you so confrontational? I&#39;m just being honest.


Unrealistic.

Oh, it&#39;s very real. In fact, it&#39;s more real than some of the people you talk to everyday.


Oil isnt peaking, and you dont know when its going to.

Well, we don&#39;t know the exact time the sun is going to explode, but we know it&#39;s going to happen. Why do you think we&#39;re in Iraq? For WMD&#39;s? For "freedom"? We&#39;re doing it for oil, buddy. That&#39;s all the war is all about: oil.


1st world nations dont fight wars against each other anymore, or humans wouldnt be here anymore(nuclear weapons).

I&#39;m talking about all nations. Everybody is going to want recourses. Everybody mis going to be cold, hungry and scared, and all the politicians are going to worry about are themselves.

I&#39;m just suggesting we change...

which doctor
15th February 2006, 00:04
Have any of you read The Skeptical Environmentalist by Bjorn Lomberg?

I have heard about it and I know in the Environmental Science class they talk about it and critisize it.

violencia.Proletariat
15th February 2006, 00:10
Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2006, 08:21 PM



First of all Im not going to accept anything from a site called "life after the oil crash", I am also aware of the hubbert theory, but I disagree with it.

Oil is not going to last forever, but we arent going to be useing it on the scale we are now either.

Some oil reserves might be collapsing but lots of oil possesing areas are also not being exploited.


Why do you think we&#39;re in Iraq? For WMD&#39;s? For "freedom"? We&#39;re doing it for oil, buddy. That&#39;s all the war is all about: oil.

That has nothing to do with "peak oil". We have been fucking around in the middle east before this peak oil scare. It&#39;s about MONEY.


I&#39;m talking about all nations. Everybody is going to want recourses. Everybody mis going to be cold, hungry and scared, and all the politicians are going to worry about are themselves.

Wow, and the world is going to end in 2012 like the Mayans said :lol: Alternatives will be put to use on a large enough scale to reduce our oil consumption considerably in our lifetimes. Quit shitting your pants thinking the world is gonna end, it affects your reasoning ability (if buddhists have reasoning abilities :lol: )

I&#39;m just suggesting we change...

As am I&#33; But I&#39;m not gonna act like the fucking lunatic priests in end of the world type movies preaching how judgement day is coming.

Ol' Dirty
15th February 2006, 00:59
Originally posted by nate+Feb 15 2006, 12:37 AM--> (nate @ Feb 15 2006, 12:37 AM)
[email protected] 14 2006, 08:21 PM



First of all Im not going to accept anything from a site called "life after the oil crash", I am also aware of the hubbert theory, but I disagree with it.

Oil is not going to last forever, but we arent going to be useing it on the scale we are now either.

Some oil reserves might be collapsing but lots of oil possesing areas are also not being exploited.


Why do you think we&#39;re in Iraq? For WMD&#39;s? For "freedom"? We&#39;re doing it for oil, buddy. That&#39;s all the war is all about: oil.

That has nothing to do with "peak oil". We have been fucking around in the middle east before this peak oil scare. It&#39;s about MONEY.


I&#39;m talking about all nations. Everybody is going to want recourses. Everybody mis going to be cold, hungry and scared, and all the politicians are going to worry about are themselves.

Wow, and the world is going to end in 2012 like the Mayans said :lol: Alternatives will be put to use on a large enough scale to reduce our oil consumption considerably in our lifetimes.

I&#39;m just suggesting we change...

[/b]

Quit shitting your pants thinking the world is gonna end, it affects your reasoning ability (if buddhists have reasoning abilities :lol: )

What&#39;s this Buddhist comment supposed to mean?


As am I&#33; But I&#39;m not gonna act like the fucking lunatic priests in end of the world type movies preaching how judgement day is coming.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

tupamaro16
15th February 2006, 22:12
[COLOR=red]I would have to say in the next 50-100 years The United States will go ahead with its current plans and invade IRAN and NORTH KOREA, IRAN would come first all because the United States already has a great % of their armed forces in the area.. Next, NORTH KOREA, would be where a majority of the invading US and South Korean forces will be exposed to biological and chemical weapons, restricting them from undertaking military tasks which will further prevent them from being soldiers.. Mexico is going to have many more military incrusions within the border with the United States, which will turn deadly, eventually Mexico and Venezuela as well as Cuba will invade all other central american countries preventing passage through the Panama canal which will lead to an American attack.. Anti-American groups withing the US will take action and eventually the US government will fall, China, Russia,Brazil and others will be requested to undertake peacekeeping operations throught the US to help from the lack of US troops in the country due too heavy troop movements throughout the middle east and especially Central America...China, Brazil and Russia will eventially form a Union, in which certain parts of the United States will be considered Occupied States of the Chinese, Russian and Brazilian Union, the civilians in these states will become aggressive as if the were insurgents in Iraq-present day..Although there will not be as many suicide bombing, there will definatly be an increase in hostile within the UNION States...There fore the USA will not be a SuperPower

M-Mann
15th February 2006, 23:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 10:39 PM
[COLOR=red]I would have to say in the next 50-100 years The United States will go ahead with its current plans and invade IRAN and NORTH KOREA, IRAN would come first all because the United States already has a great % of their armed forces in the area.. Next, NORTH KOREA, would be where a majority of the invading US and South Korean forces will be exposed to biological and chemical weapons, restricting them from undertaking military tasks which will further prevent them from being soldiers.. Mexico is going to have many more military incrusions within the border with the United States, which will turn deadly, eventually Mexico and Venezuela as well as Cuba will invade all other central american countries preventing passage through the Panama canal which will lead to an American attack.. Anti-American groups withing the US will take action and eventually the US government will fall, China, Russia,Brazil and others will be requested to undertake peacekeeping operations throught the US to help from the lack of US troops in the country due too heavy troop movements throughout the middle east and especially Central America...China, Brazil and Russia will eventially form a Union, in which certain parts of the United States will be considered Occupied States of the Chinese, Russian and Brazilian Union, the civilians in these states will become aggressive as if the were insurgents in Iraq-present day..Although there will not be as many suicide bombing, there will definatly be an increase in hostile within the UNION States...There fore the USA will not be a SuperPower
One question. Actually I have a dozen.

Anyways why Brazil?


This is how I think this will go down, the U.S. will stay the top Superpower, China suffering from all the Domestic problems will not become the worlds next superpower, instead India will rise to the top and/or maybe the U.K.

Rascism and discrimination will make a slight comeback and I&#39;m hoping it will eventually lead to some type of revolution of sorts.

ComradeOm
16th February 2006, 17:10
The danger of predictions (http://rinkworks.com/said/predictions.shtml)

Free Left
18th February 2006, 19:53
The USA is already in decline. It is crippled by debt, too dependent on oil, allowing big business to gain more and more power, too old-fashioned, too arrogant and in the shadow of China.
Oil will cause an economic crash when it peaks: Can you imagine what will happen when the big boys in Wall Street say that Oil production has peaked??? People will sell shares in Oil like mad and there will be a serious fallout just like The Great Depression int he 30s and 40s.
China and India will rise as the new superpowers with Europe, Japan and Russia being pretty strong as well.
Global Warming won&#39;t do much, I predict by 2050 the temprature will only have risen 1 degrees because of investment in renewable sources after oil.
Neo-Conservatism or dictatorships wil reign in the develping world with Europe and the USA becoming more liberal.

Free Left
18th February 2006, 19:54
The USA is already in decline. It is crippled by debt, too dependent on oil, allowing big business to gain more and more power, too old-fashioned, too arrogant and in the shadow of China.
Oil will cause an economic crash when it peaks: Can you imagine what will happen when the big boys in Wall Street say that Oil production has peaked??? People will sell shares in Oil like mad and there will be a serious fallout just like "The Great Depression" in the 30s and 40s.
China and India will rise as the new superpowers with Europe, Japan and Russia being pretty strong as well.
Global Warming won&#39;t do much, I predict by 2050 the temprature will only have risen 1 degrees because of investment in renewable sources after oil.
Neo-Conservatism or dictatorships wil reign in the develping world with Europe and the USA becoming more liberal.

encephalon
19th February 2006, 09:15
I predict the second coming of Christ our lord and slave master.. I mean savior. :P

I predict everything we try to honestly predict that&#39;s not terribly vague will happen in part, but the greatest historical circumstances will evade our awareness until we look back at it half a century later.

We will technologically advance.

Class struggle will continue.

There will be an earthquake somewhere.

Bourgeoisie democracies will still be shams.

We will experience a shortage in commodity ___.

We will experience a surplus in commodity ___.

That&#39;s about it. That and Jesus.

Oh, and Leninists will continue wanting to impose a system encapsulated in the early 20th century on an epoch well beyond the material conditions of tsarist russia.

Djehuti
19th February 2006, 21:08
Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2006, 11:57 PM
So, although it is notoriously difficult to predict the future (human social development being as dynamic as it is), I was wondering: what are your predictions for what the world will look like in 50 years? What major changes will have happened? What will the geopolitical outlook be? Where will the US be? China? Europe? Latin America? Any leftist revolutions? Feel free to comment on 100 years from now as well if you wish. I just thought this thread would be interesting...
I am pretty sure that the communist revolution would have happened 50 years from now.

1984
21st February 2006, 02:40
Another possibility is the end of all civilization due to an ecological or war cataclism.

:o

I just hope that imperialism won&#39;t grow so much for something like that happens... and predicting just when revolution will happen is just plain impossible - there&#39;s no thing such as an crystal ball that actually works.