Salutes from South-lebanon

[Carlos]

Hiya everyone.

first of all i would like to congrat the people taking care of this, you are doing a great job. Second of all, this is my first post here and hope more to come. Let me introduce myself to you, I come from south lebanon, where we wrote victory with our blood. I am now living in Canada and I do follow international news especially now with whats happening with syria and lebanon. I enjoy Football, also enjoy talking about politics, but what i do enjoy the most is mixing football and politics, thanks to this site I now know that Livorno is a Red club. As far as football is concerned, I do support Marseille in france ( sw87.com) and every populist of left-wing oriented club. Hate Real And Chelsea, Juve and Lazio, Dynamo and Roma, PSG and river. Last, Carlos is not my name, i choose it to pay respect to one of south america's hero, Ilich Ramírez Sánchez , better known as Carlos The jackal. If you need to know anything about the middle east and the on-going war there, feel free to ask, thats what I know the most. Untill then, Hasta la victoria siempre and long live CHAVEZ.

[Charles]

Welcome Comrade its good to have you.

[Tekun]

Welcome brother, may ur stay be long and informative

BTW, do u believe that Iran's Ahmadinejad's has popular support from his ppl and from the middle eastern community, especially now since American aggression has increased?

[RedskinUltraRMC]

Welcome comrade! I am currently reading a few books about Lebanon.

I'm a football fan also. I support my local club the New England Revolution and I also follow AC Milan and Celtic FC (I'm Italian and Irish).

Check Out My Websites:
World Football Index (http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/worldfootballindex)
Red & Anarchist Skinheads (RASH) - Includes info/photos of antifa football fans! (http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/rashredskins)

[VictoryOverWar]

welcome to the site

[FULL METAL JACKET]

Greetings from a Man United fan :D

[Orthodox Marxist]

welcome and greetings from Canada comrade

[Carlos]

Greetings comrade, thx for your replies.
Tekun,
As i said in my previous post, that iam from south lebanon, close to '' ZionLand ''. We in lebanon, especially in the south, are living the iranian-american conflict daily. What is happening now between Iran and USA is the second phase of the whole conflict in the region, first being the barbarian invasion if Iraq by the yankees and the brits. Since that invasion, Iran took drastic measures to protect itself ( nuclear and heavily arming Hezbollah) . Most iranians do support ahmadinajad, at least his opposition to Eu and the states. Also, the collective iranian memory still remembers very well the shah's reign and his corrupted regime, that also gives ahmadinajat the support of anti-monarch groups, since nobody wants to see a so called king ruling Iran.

RedskinUltraRMC
let me know what books are you reading. There is a book called byway of deception, here take a look http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/031205613...glance&n=283155 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312056133/104-0117144-8688760?v=glance&n=283155).
Its the story of a mossad agent, alot of things revealed in this book. Also Al jazeera made an 8 dvd serie about the lebanese's war, starting since it creation in 1943, untill 1990. that's the link where you can find more info, not sure if english subtitles are available. http://www.reachmediatv.com/store/shop.php
look under harb loubnan.

Peace

[RedskinUltraRMC]

Thanks for your recommendations! I'll definitely look into them.

The books on Lebanon I am reading:
Pity the Nation: The Abduction of Lebanon by Robert Fisk (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1560254424/qid=1139872904/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-2178838-8519143?s=books&v=glance&n=283155)
Resistance: My Life for Lebanon by Sondra Hale (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1887128808/ref=pd_sim_b_5/104-2178838-8519143?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155)
Beirut Fragments: A War Memoir by Jean Said Makdisi (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/089255245X/ref=pd_sim_b_3/104-2178838-8519143?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155)

I'm also interested in learning more about Hezbollah.Amazon List - Hezbollah (http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/fullview/2D79IGWIGJP4O/104-2178838-8519143?%5Fencoding=UTF8)

[Carlos]

Greetings comrad,

Hizbollah is a lebanese muslim group formed after the khoumayni revolution in Iran. in 1983, hizbollah ( Islamic Jihad back then ) attacked the marines headquarters in Beirut, killing 240 of them. Hizbollah was little active on the lebanese civil war scene, the only major confrention and the most bloody one was the on and off war within the shiaa community, hezbollah the secterian and amal movement, more liberal. note that it was very common to see a brother fighting for hizbollah and the other for amal movement, brother fighting brother, cousins fighting cousins. Why ? Ground control. Amal movement were directly supported by late hafez el assad in syria and hizbollah by iran. Only in 1990, when the war in lebanon ended that the two groups set down to discuss their differences. Today, Hizballah and amal are in the same front ( syrio-iranian ) facing the USA and Israel. After the lebanese war, hizballah focused on resistance against Israel in the south part of lebanon, which was occupied untill may 25th 2000, Freedom Day.
Hizballah is a respected political party in lebanon and in the region, due to their success fighting Tsahal and also due to the fact that hizballah is not corrupted, very rare in the region. They have their own social aid program, since the lebanese is absent in the south. They built schools, hospitals, sports facility and obviously some mosques here and there. the secular SSNP and the communist party have stronge ties with the secterian hizballah, due to the fact that hizballah is under the loop, not sure if you heard about resolution 1559 ( forcing hizballah to surender it weapens ). Now hizballah is facing a major challenge from the international community and also from within lebanon, where some american puppets are trying to do the yanks' anti-hizballah propagenda ( walid jounblat, who is the leader of the druze progressive socialist party, he is CRAZY ). From one side israel wants to disarm hizballah, they cannot stand the fact that pro-iranians are armed on their north border, that gives israel nightmares. From the other side, hizballah is winning card in Iran's hand, They can use it to provoke Israel incase they feel that their nuclear program is in danger, not to forget that hizballah obtained long rang missiles, that can hit tel aviv from south lebanon, that also israel does not like. I hope i gave you as much info as possible, so many things to say it would take forever.

FORZA LIVORNO

peace

[JC1]

Welcome. I myself am a Canadian Jew with a few lebonese freinds. Were you in the Popular Guard in the civil war, becuase I have a buddy who was in that.

[BattleOfTheCowshed]

Where can I find info on like the political tendencies of football clubs/fans, what clubs are more left or right, etc?

[Carlos]

Greetings Comrades,

JC1, the lebanese war started officialy in 1975, i was not born yet. I personnaly did not take part in the civil war, but many of my family members were in the same front with the palestinians and the lebanese left. If you need any specific information, let me know it.

BattleOfTheCowshed,
I found a picture in one post for Serie A clubs where it gives you an idea about football fans politicial affiliations.
http://img435.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m...venzione7br.jpg (http://img435.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mappapoliziaprevenzione7br.jpg)

You can access that post at http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=43936.

[RedskinUltraRMC]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2006, 01:03 AM
Where can I find info on like the political tendencies of football clubs/fans, what clubs are more left or right, etc?
If you're looking for info on a specific club check my website:

World Football Index (http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/worldfootballindex)

If you can't find what you're looking for feel free to ask me.

Carlos, thanks for that summary!

[Tekun]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2006, 10:07 PM
Greetings comrade, thx for your replies.
Tekun,
As i said in my previous post, that iam from south lebanon, close to '' ZionLand ''. We in lebanon, especially in the south, are living the iranian-american conflict daily. What is happening now between Iran and USA is the second phase of the whole conflict in the region, first being the barbarian invasion if Iraq by the yankees and the brits. Since that invasion, Iran took drastic measures to protect itself ( nuclear and heavily arming Hezbollah) . Most iranians do support ahmadinajad, at least his opposition to Eu and the states. Also, the collective iranian memory still remembers very well the shah's reign and his corrupted regime, that also gives ahmadinajat the support of anti-monarch groups, since nobody wants to see a so called king ruling Iran.


To good to hear that the Iranian gov is arming itself if threatened by America, yet Im not a fan of Ahmadinajad

Seeing how the anniversary was yesterday
What is your position regarding the assasination of Rafik Hariri and Syria's involvement?

[Carlos]

Greeting comrades,

The rafik hariri issue has many aspects, starting by his saudis ties, to his relation with syria and his internal policies in lebanon. On the first aspect, he had and the hariri clan still have the supported of the corrupted Saud Family. As we all know, the saudis on their side have excellent relationship with the white house, they even influence some of it policies. I personnaly believe that the USA could've elimanted saddam hussein back in the first gulf war, they didn't because they didnt have the Saudi agreement, that's an exemple of the Saudi influence. Rafik hariri was the Saudi man in lebanon, his role was to built the country as a touristic destination for arabs and europeans. The hidden part of his role was much bigger, reaffirm the arab heritage in the country and stop the shiaa growing influence ( Saudis are sunni muslim, so is Rafik hariri, Hizbollah are shiaa muslim so is Iran ). Iran and Saudi Arabia do not get along, Lebanon is an open field, where every country in the region have a player in, Syria Iran Iraq Libya Israel Saudi Arabia, The States, The Vatican, you name it. Al taef accord was a Saudi intiative to end the lebanese civil war in 1990, Rafik hariri was the godfather of the agreement, from 1990 untill 2001 his relation with the syrian was good, although some of his decisions weren't approoved by syrian regime. Bit by bit he started to build the country, the airport. Solidaire, a compagny of his, rebuilt down town beirut, he also sent 35 000 lebanese to study abroad, in Harford and sorbogne mainly. in 2004, lahhoud mandate was extended dispite hariri's opposition, thats when things really started to heat up between him and syria. Some in lebanon accuse him of being the architector of 1559, the resolution that forced syria out of lebanon and that asks hezbollah to surender it weapons, and thats where the problem is. I do think that syria has a role in his killing, I also think that israel benefits even more, syria is no longer present in lebanon, pressure is on hizballah to surrender it weapons and make the south a safer border for Israel, also cut the shiia cresent ( Iran, Iraq, Syria and lebanon ). As I said in my previous post, Israel do not want to have Iran as an immediate neighbor, so the zionist lobby in the states worked on the 1559 resolution, same resolution that forced syria out and asks all lebanese and palestinians militias in lebanon to surrender their weapons. So basiclly the saudis, the israelies and rafik hariri worked on the same resolution, directly or indrectly, and that's where the danger is. Its been a year since his death and alot of things look more clearer today. First Lebanon is never going to be a country, people are still retarted there, secterians to their bones. in the country today 2 major alliances are formed, One lead by Saad hariri, rafik's son, with walid jounblat, a sectarian bourgeois druze leader of the progressesive socialist part ( nevermind the name, he is a neo-nazi ), and last but not least by samir jahjah, an extremist christian right-wing leader of the lebanese forces ( neo-fascist party ). The other alliance, newly formed, is between hizbollah/amal with Michel aoun, leader of the Free patriotic movement ( honest and uncorrupted movement, see www.tayyar.org ). That particular allliance is giving americans and israelies nightmares. With this alliance, hizballah will win the next legislative election, electing around 75 of the 122 deputies, then forming the cabinet and last vote for a new president, Michel Aoun himself. What this alliance tells the west: Hezballah keeps his weapons as long as israel is a threat ( forever ). Soon more things will become even clearer, one alliance is clearly an israeli-american driven one, the other is more of a souvrain alliance with foreign ties ( syria and iran ). whats happening now is bigger than the death of hariri, americans are using his death to put yet more pressure on syria to stop supporting hezballah and palestian hamas and islamic jihad, it is a yet another '' with me or against me '' situation ( Bush's famous Quote ), Hope I answered your interogations, feel free to ask me anytime.

[bpyke]

Greetings Carlos,
If I have any questions Ill ask you. :)

[Comrade Ben]

Sdrasvitye, Comrade. Enjoy your stay.

[jaster]

bonjour, what part of canada are you from, which province, and region of said province, as i am from spokane washignton, south of the border in the U.S.