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Ice
10th February 2006, 17:18
I heard that the U.S supported the Taliban with arms and fund's to fight against the U.S.S.R. during the cold war period, is that true? I would be grateful if you guys can provide me with some reliable source regarding this issue.

MeTaLhEaD
10th February 2006, 17:24
The gave weapons! special training to Bin laden!
Have u seen Rambo III
rambo is a US soldier fighting with the taliban against the USSR :)

MeTaLhEaD
10th February 2006, 17:36
maybe this helps

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2001/465/465p15.htm

cormacobear
10th February 2006, 17:46
Yes the Americans armed and trained the Mujahadeen who became the Taliban.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Afghanis...IA_Taliban.html (http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Afghanistan/Afghanistan_CIA_Taliban.html)

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

Delirium
10th February 2006, 18:05
Not directly, but the u$ funneled money through pakistans intelligence service to a variety of groups. Most of which were or evolved into fundamentalist islamic organizations.

cormacobear
10th February 2006, 18:19
In the late 1970s and early 80s, the CIA was very involved in the training and funding of various fundamentalist Islamic groups in Afghanistan, some of which later became today's brutal Taliban government. In fact, the U.S. government admits to giving the groups at least 6 billion dollars in military aid and weaponry, a staggering sum that would be even larger in today's dollars.

Already in 2001 the U.S. has provided $125 million in so-called humanitarian aid to the country's rulling party, making them the world's single largest donor to Afghanistan.$43 million in aid for its actions in banning the cultivation of poppy used to produce heroin and opium.

All this was done quite openly while the Taliban kicked girls out of school, while they stoned and whipped women to death, and hung men from the soccer feild for wearing shorts, the US was right there with a cheque to keep the Taliban in power.

Ol' Dirty
10th February 2006, 21:03
The U.S. gve stinger missiles, weapons and training to the Mujahadeen. Eventualy, the Taliban cme into power, so yes, the U.S. did.

MeTaLhEaD
11th February 2006, 01:26
http://www.crankycritic.com/archive/posters/rambo3.jpg

cormacobear
11th February 2006, 01:45
I kalways knew Hollywood was where Americans learned their history. :lol: :P

The worst thing is we now know the CIA was already operating in Afghanistan prior to the Soviet invasion. Which means the Americans started the war with Russia :angry:

Atlas Swallowed
11th February 2006, 03:01
A bit off the topic but the Taliban were in Texas while Bush was govenor.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm

The troops were already massing before 9-11 to invade Afghanistan. 9-11 was just so conveinant thet got to build thier pipeline.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1550366.stm

Severian
11th February 2006, 03:25
Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2006, 11:43 AM
I heard that the U.S supported the Taliban with arms and fund's to fight against the U.S.S.R. during the cold war period, is that true?
Not exactly. Other people have pointed out the U.S. armed the mujahedeen to fight against the Soviets. It should also be mentioned that after the Soviet withdrawal, the U.S. continued arming these groups to fight against the government of the People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan, which finally fell in 1992.

The Taliban arose later, beginning about 1994, in part reacting against the chaos caused by rival mujahedeen commanders. They were supported by Pakistani intelligence, and for a few years, the U.S. encouraged this. Of course the Pakistani regime received military aid from Washington, so that was a form of indirect U.S. support for the Taliban.

See the book Taliban by Ahmed Raschid for details. (He's a reporter for the Far Eastern Economic Review, and the book is the best-researched one on the subject.)

Basically Afghanistan's chaos was bad for investment, and Washington hoped the Taliban could create stability, as well as combatting Iranian-supported groups. The Pakistani regime had its own reasons for supporting the Taliban as well.

"Already in 2001 the U.S. has provided $125 million in so-called humanitarian aid to the country's rulling party,"

False. By 2001, the U.S. had given up on the Taliban, though Pakistan had not. The U.S. provided $125 million worth of food to international aid groups for distribution in Afghanistan. Let the liberals denounce the Bush administration for this - but it's seriously unworthy of communists to demand no food be sent to Afghanistan.

The business about the Taliban visiting Texas while Bush was governor is another bit of Democratic hypocrisy. Clinton was president at the time, and in charge of U.S. foreign policy. It was the Clinton administration which in fact supported the Taliban (not that Republicans disagreed.)

undeadsinner
11th February 2006, 17:21
well from what I have seen and heard...
YES...America gave the taliban 25 Stingers SAM launchers,a couple thousand AKs a few hundred PKMs and made USSF(spec forces) aquire a couple of tanks from the Soviets-rumor had it that the US stole a HIND-D but this is ludacris as HIND-D weren't used then-and if you fancy a quick conspiracy-
it was the CIA who commited 9/11 NYC terrorist attack to provoke a war against the Taliban//Osama/Saddam so they could take the OIL..simple..the Illuiminati hate all who aren't under their control(socialist/communist states)and they use the Imperialistic US war machines to aquire that control...thats why Russia,cuba,Venezula and China are enemies of the US...if you don't believe meet check it out everywhere...on TV on the Web...those who want freedom from a shadow group and want to cooperate with their fellow mankind are enemies of the Illuminati..like RATM said in No Shelter-
"they make ya think what ya need is what they sellin-make ya think buyin is rebellin"..its simple as that.

RNK
12th February 2006, 15:39
No.

Also, the Taliban and Mujahadeen were unrelated. During the Taliban's rise to power, the Mujahadeen and the fledgling Al Q were busy launching small-scale attacks on US and US-friendly targets in the middle east and north africa, such as the embassy bombings, the USS Cole attack, Somalian uprising, etc. After increasing pressure, Al Q and bin Laden moved to Afghanistan, made arrangements with the Taliban that while the Taliban controlled the country, Al Q had free reign; the two became allies.

Janus
13th February 2006, 22:46
The US did support the mujahideen against the Soviet Union during the Soviet-Afghan War. Since the Taliban was formed from several of these mujahideen factions, the US did indirectly support them.
However, it was mainly Pakistan that supported the Taliban and helped it rise to power.