The Orange and the Swastika

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by Direland
UKRAINE'S YUSHCHENKO HONORS ANTI-SEMITE IN YET ANOTHER BETRAYAL OF THE 'ORANGE REVOLUTION'

Remember all the frothy praise of Viktor Yuschenko and what a great democrat he was -- back when he was the leader of the so-called Orange YushchenkoRevolution that toppled Kuchma the corrupt Ukrainian regime of President Leonid Kuchma (left) -- from George Bush, the neocons, Freedom House, and the Western press in general? Well, this week a little-noticed dispatch from the Jewish Telegraphic Agency (the worldwide Jewish news service founded in 1917) related how now-President Yushchenko (above right) has just awarded Ukraine's highest honor -- the "Hero of Ukraine" medal -- to a notorious anti-Semite, Ivan Spodarenko. But not a word of this outrage has appeared in the major U.S. dailies.

http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2006/...nes_yusche.html (http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2006/02/ukraines_yusche.html)

Much interesting information about the so-called "Orange Revolution" in the Ukraine.

"Stinkweed" might be a more appropriate symbol. :lol:

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[piet11111]

i dont know much about the ukraine but it appears to me that a vast portion of the population there would be on hitlers "to kill list"

it makes no sense to me that someone is in support of nazism as a ukranian.

[bolshevik butcher]

Ukraine is one of the most oppressed ****ries in European history. Again it finds itself caught up in a conflict; for sphere of influence between America and Russia. The presidental election was between an American backed moscow buissnessman outfit; Yushenko and another candidate backed form the Kremlin; Yusehvko. It's just like the old days of the Cold War, Ukraine is caught up in a conflicte betweent these two major powers. Either way the country is run by gangsters still and the Ukrnainan working class is forgotten about.

[Luís Henrique]

Ukraine is one of the most oppressed ****ries in European history.

Or so they like to depict themselves. Anyway, it does not justify its infamous historic of antisemite pogroms.


Either way the country is run by gangsters still and the Ukrnainan working class is forgotten about.

It is surely not "forgotten about". It is remembered every day as a source of surplus value for the Ukrainian bourgeoisie.

Luís Henrique

[Luís Henrique]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 03:34 PM
it makes no sense to me that someone is in support of nazism as a ukranian.
The "Galiza" division of the SS, composed by Ukrainians, lost about 250,000 soldiers killed by the Red Army.

So, yes, some Ukrainians supported Nazism, as a historical fact.

Luís Henrique

[bolshevik butcher]

Comerade I never said it justified anything, I was saying it was a continuation of imperialism. And i think you'll find that it is. And scrwed over woulda beeen better than forgoteen i agree.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 08:34 AM
i dont know much about the ukraine but it appears to me that a vast portion of the population there would be on hitlers "to kill list"

it makes no sense to me that someone is in support of nazism as a ukranian.
Seems odd eh?

Little do people know but the Ukraine actually had its own SS regiment:

Canada admits letting in 2,000 Ukrainian Waffen-SS volunteers (http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/5448/edition_id/101/format/html/displaystory.html)

Considering their past history, I'm not shocked by this news at all.

[Luís Henrique]

The so called "Ukrainian Nationalists" ("Ukrainian fascists" strikes me as a more appropriate name) are going to be the next "blowback" in CIA's history. Potentially even greater than Al Qaida, I think.

Luís Henrique

[bolshevik butcher]

Originally posted by Comrade RAF+Feb 9 2006, 07:12 PM--> (Comrade RAF @ Feb 9 2006, 07:12 PM)
[email protected] 9 2006, 08:34 AM
i dont know much about the ukraine but it appears to me that a vast portion of the population there would be on hitlers "to kill list"

it makes no sense to me that someone is in support of nazism as a ukranian.
Seems odd eh?

Little do people know but the Ukraine actually had its own SS regiment:

Canada admits letting in 2,000 Ukrainian Waffen-SS volunteers (http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/5448/edition_id/101/format/html/displaystory.html)

Considering their past history, I'm not shocked by this news at all. [/b]
Yes, there was support for Hitler form some Ukranians because he said he would give Ukraine freedom from Satlinist Opression.

I think to reffer to all Ukranians as 'their' is entirley inapprorpriate. It implies that all Ukranians are facists. There have been lots of Ukranan socialsits.

[piet11111]

yeah i know the SS got their troops from everywhere.
but its still very odd when you consider that they would be next in line after the jewish poeple.

i would prefer stalinism over the nazi's anyday even though i would be relatively save as a dutchman in a nazi state.
aslong as i keep my marxism secret ofcourse.

[bolshevik butcher]

Yeh, well you have to understand that for a ukranian to be told they wre going to be free really meant something. They had/have suffered under russian and other countries imperialism for a hell of a long time.