Sorry, could repeat what you've said?

[Larissa]

"We should not march into Baghdad. . . . To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us, and make a broken tyrant into a latter-day Arab hero . . . assigning young soldiers to
a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerrilla war. It could only plunge that part of the world into even greater instability."

- George H.W. Bush, _A World Transformed_, 1998

[mentalbunny]

Wow, what a revelation!

[Zombie]

"occupying Baghdad comes at an unpardonable expense in terms of money, lives lost and ruined regional relationships."

Colin Powell, Foreign Affairs essay, 1992

:o

[canikickit]

The US do not intend to occupy Baghdad during the war. They will surround it and bombard it from the outside.

[pastradamus]

yeah & they are also going to air-drop marines to "secure" the oil wells..


Surprize,Surprize.

[KRAZYKILLA]

Ahh {Bah} Humbug. Stop whining. IRAQ war is gonan happen. The question is what wil happen afterwards? The aftermath is the worst...

[Zombie]

Quote: from KRAZYKILLA on 10:06 pm on Mar. 15, 2003
Ahh {Bah} Humbug. Stop whining. IRAQ war is gonan happen. The question is what wil happen afterwards? The aftermath is the worst...

the country is gonna get fucked even more so than it already is. fuck all that liberation hypocrisy, fuck all that imperialistic sadism, fuck u mister bush and fuck u mister hussein u're all the same mothafuck*n kind u pathetics pieces of dogshit and fuck me cos' all that shouting and all that protesting will do inevitably NOTHING.

and please stop using the word WAR. it's more like an invasion, seein how weak those fuckin' iraqis troops are(remember when the prematurely surrended).

ok sorry im all carried out but i'm so fuckin frustrated right now (american kid work ur magic on me man)

[synthesis]

Quote: from KRAZYKILLA on 3:06 am on Mar. 16, 2003
Ahh {Bah} Humbug. Stop whining. IRAQ war is gonan happen.

Who the fuck are you to tell us this?!

[Larissa]

Powell warned Bush...

http://www.counterpunch.org/leopold02252003.html

Powell Warned Bush Last Year of Bloody Iraq War

Unjustified Warfare

by JASON LEOPOLD

If the United States decides to wage a war with Iraq without the full support of the United Nations it will be "much more complicated and bloody" than the siege in Afghanistan after 9-11 and the first Gulf War combined, Secretary of State Colin Powell warned President Bush privately early last year, Bob Woodward
wrote in the book " Bush at War ."

"It's nice to say you can do it unilaterally," Powell said to
Bush about attacking Iraq, Woodward wrote. "Except you can't. A successful military plan would require we need allies... International support has to be garnered."

So what has changed between the time Powell warned Bush about alienating a majority of our allies in the United Nations and now, when Powell's rhetoric before the U.N. Security Council this month is understood to mean that if the U.N. doesn't back a full-scale war with Iraq the U.S. and Britain will attack Iraq alone if necessary?

Absolutely nothing. Despite the fact that Powell has recently changed his tone before the U.N., he knows full well that if the U.S. made good on its threats it will face a bloody battle in the Iraqi desert or on the streets of Baghdad.

A "unilateral war would be tough, close to impossible" Powell told Bush, according to Woodward's book.

One can only assume that Powell's sudden departure from the earlier warnings he made to the President is just Powell being a team player and agreeing with the "hawks" even though he knows better, said Sherry Be***** Jeffe, a political and media analyst at the University of Southern California's school of Public
Policy and Development.

"If anything, international support for a war in Iraq has eroded over the past five months," Jeffe said. "So it's likely that those risks Powell presented to President Bush last year still exist. Powell's rhetoric is just that. He knows better having spent most of his life in the military that without international support the U.S. is facing a dangerous situation if it decides to go to war alone."

Dr. Hussein Shahristani, once Iraq's top nuclear scientist who spent 11 years in solitary confinement for refusing Saddam Hussein's order to build an atomic bomb, said in an interview Sunday on 60 Minutes that he believes the U.S. is rushing into a war without fully understanding the threat it faces. Shahristani was tortured for refusing to comply with the Saddam's order and fled Iraq during the first Gulf War. He said would like nothing more than to see Saddam removed from power but he warned the Bush Administration not to start a war with Iraq without the support of the U.N.

As the U.S. moves closer to war it's important to take another look at how the Bush Administration got here and how through lying, manipulation and with the events that brought this country to its knees, the Bush Administration has used this in attempt to make a case for war.

Of the half-dozen books that have been written about Bush since he was sworn into office two years ago, the recurring theme throughout all of them is the strong desire by the Administration to find a reason to start a war with Iraq--be it allegations that the country is concealing weapons of mass destruction or using 9-11 as an excuse to launch an immediate assault--without caring about how such a war would alienate the U.N. and the public or the fact that the U.S. cannot make a good case to justify a war with Iraq.

Woodward wrote in "Bush at War" that Vice President Dick Cheney was "hell bent for action against Saddam. It was as if nothing else existed."

(Oil, of course)

[KRAZYKILLA]

think realisticly. the war is gonna happen to due Bush. Im more concerned that if they make iraq afterwards a DEMOCRTIC COuntry were fucked. Shit, a Polity would be the least they could do. I aint a commie (near 1 though) but i think they should make it a communist state. but america woule never let that happen. silly iraqi, trix are 4 kids!

[Zombie]

Quote: from KRAZYKILLA on 2:25 pm on Mar. 16, 2003
i think they should make it a communist state.

LOOL, the commies in iraq were 'eradicated' decades ago by the Ba'ath and the CIA... hmmm

and it's been said over and over, Bush will not make Iraq anymore democratic then it was under Saddam...

[mentalbunny]

Quote: from KRAZYKILLA on 7:25 pm on Mar. 16, 2003
think realisticly. the war is gonna happen to due Bush. Im more concerned that if they make iraq afterwards a DEMOCRTIC COuntry were fucked. Shit, a Polity would be the least they could do. I aint a commie (near 1 though) but i think they should make it a communist state. but america woule never let that happen. silly iraqi, trix are 4 kids!



errrrm, in english please?

Iraq's going to be a mess in a couple of months, no weeks time. Donate to the red cross now, they're going to need it (or even the red cresent or whatever it's called).

[Zombie]

Quote: from mentalbunny on 2:45 pm on Mar. 16, 2003

errrrm, in english please?

Iraq's going to be a mess in a couple of months, no weeks time. Donate to the red cross now, they're going to need it (or even the red cresent or whatever it's called).

yes, Red Crescent ;)
http://www.ifrc.org/

[mentalbunny]

Zombie, thanks for the link.

Everyone get donating to aid charities!!!!!!

[Pete]

Krazykilla. Let me tell you what an old dead man said about the different forms of government.

Aristole said that their where 3 different classes that could rule. One is the aristocracy, two is the plutocracy, and three is the masses.

Each body had a corrupt form and a pure form, I forget what it was for the first two, my text is at school, but for the people's rule the two classes where Representative Democracy (corrupt) or Polity (Pure). I think that the aristocracy could be a Tyranny Dictatorship (Corrupt, remember tyrant held different meanings then) or an Oligarchy. Something like that.