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Pax
7th February 2006, 20:41
Hello!

I have been to this website many times and have read many of the articles and posts. I have also looked through the pictures and the videos. This is a very well thought out site and has a lot of information on it.

I will be honest about my intentions and my thoughts and ideas. I am a Christian man from Northern Canada. I am about as far away as you can get from the hardships that have been imposed on countries by imperialistic nations, such as Canada. I am not a communist, and I don't believe I ever will be.

However, I do agree with a lot of the things I read, and I can see truth in a lot of things discussed. I don't think that there is any pure, perfect system out there. As long as man is involved there will always be those who corrupt the system and take from the people.

I don't feel that communism is evil. Conversely I don't feel that democracy is either. I think that there is a lot that can be learned if people open their minds to these two systems. Like I said, nobody is perfect and there is no perfect system.

At anyrate, my desire is to learn and to understand things better.

I hope you understand where I am coming from and I thank you in advance for your patience as I learn.

PAX

Delirium
7th February 2006, 20:47
What do you think of capitalism? Do you think it is inherently evil?

Chicken of Bristol
7th February 2006, 21:10
I don't feel that communism is evil. Conversely I don't feel that democracy is either. I think that there is a lot that can be learned if people open their minds to these two systems.

communism is, by it's nature, democratic. Anyway, welcome.

Pax
7th February 2006, 21:57
Originally posted by Datura [email protected] 7 2006, 09:12 PM
What do you think of capitalism? Do you think it is inherently evil?
No not at all. I feel that both systems are flawed, both are not perfect, but we can learn a lot from both.

Pax
7th February 2006, 22:03
Originally posted by Chicken of [email protected] 7 2006, 09:35 PM

I don't feel that communism is evil. Conversely I don't feel that democracy is either. I think that there is a lot that can be learned if people open their minds to these two systems.

communism is, by it's nature, democratic. Anyway, welcome.
If that is the case, then why has Castro been in government for so long? Why has there been no real oposition parties?

Tormented by Treachery
7th February 2006, 23:19
Originally posted by Pax+Feb 7 2006, 10:28 PM--> (Pax @ Feb 7 2006, 10:28 PM)
Chicken of [email protected] 7 2006, 09:35 PM

I don't feel that communism is evil. Conversely I don't feel that democracy is either. I think that there is a lot that can be learned if people open their minds to these two systems.

communism is, by it's nature, democratic. Anyway, welcome.
If that is the case, then why has Castro been in government for so long? Why has there been no real oposition parties? [/b]
You do have a lot to learn :).

1) There has never been a fully communist country, contrary to what a cappie might try to tell you. Communism is "a classless, stateless society." Is Cuba that? ;)

violencia.Proletariat
8th February 2006, 01:57
Originally posted by Pax+Feb 7 2006, 06:28 PM--> (Pax @ Feb 7 2006, 06:28 PM)
Chicken of [email protected] 7 2006, 09:35 PM

I don't feel that communism is evil. Conversely I don't feel that democracy is either. I think that there is a lot that can be learned if people open their minds to these two systems.

communism is, by it's nature, democratic. Anyway, welcome.
If that is the case, then why has Castro been in government for so long? Why has there been no real oposition parties? [/b]
The country of Cuba does not have the material conditions to be "communist". Communism is a stateless classless society run by direct democracy.

Pax
8th February 2006, 08:59
Then that means that there is no such thing as a communist country in the world. In fact, that means that there never has been a true communist country. All of them have been corrupted.

And yes, I know I have a lot to learn! That is why I am here, man! :)

Tekun
8th February 2006, 11:07
Originally posted by Pax+Feb 7 2006, 10:28 PM--> (Pax @ Feb 7 2006, 10:28 PM)
Chicken of [email protected] 7 2006, 09:35 PM

I don't feel that communism is evil. Conversely I don't feel that democracy is either. I think that there is a lot that can be learned if people open their minds to these two systems.

communism is, by it's nature, democratic. Anyway, welcome.
If that is the case, then why has Castro been in government for so long? Why has there been no real oposition parties? [/b]
Welcome, I hope u understand that communism/socialism is not a political ideology as it is a tool to uplift the poor and oppressed
Hope u understand the need for change in the world, and join our ranks

Fidel has been in power due to democracy in "socialist" Cuba
He is the President of the Council of State, a position to which he has been re-elected since the 1970's by the National Assembly through democratic elections

Big Boss
8th February 2006, 15:38
It's amazing that common people don't know anything about the anual elections carried out in Cuba. It's lack of knowledge, something that the masses outside of Cuba have. It's the fault of their goverments because they show their version of "truth".

Pax
8th February 2006, 19:19
Originally posted by Big [email protected] 8 2006, 04:03 PM
It's amazing that common people don't know anything about the anual elections carried out in Cuba. It's lack of knowledge, something that the masses outside of Cuba have. It's the fault of their goverments because they show their version of "truth".
Your right, but from what I understand there is no opposition parties so there is only one choice. That is not true democracy.

What is your definition of democracy?

Tekun
9th February 2006, 04:10
Originally posted by Pax+Feb 8 2006, 07:44 PM--> (Pax @ Feb 8 2006, 07:44 PM)
Big [email protected] 8 2006, 04:03 PM
It's amazing that common people don't know anything about the anual elections carried out in Cuba. It's lack of knowledge, something that the masses outside of Cuba have. It's the fault of their goverments because they show their version of "truth".
Your right, but from what I understand there is no opposition parties so there is only one choice. That is not true democracy.

What is your definition of democracy? [/b]
Your right, Cuba does not engage in "US style democracy" meaning there are no opposition parties to counter the Communist Party

But the Cuban Communist party is not an electoral party, it does not nominate nor support candidates for office, in addition it does not make laws nor does it select the head of state

Many of the ppl nominated for the national, provincial, and municipal assemblies are not members of the Communist party, nor do they need to be
In addition, the nominees for office are not selected by the party, instead they are selected by the people through the electoral process
And they do not waste money campaigning with their party, rather a simple biography of their life is widely distributed so that the voters familiarize themselves with the nominees

In other words, the Cuban Communist party has no clout in the National Assembly, the party is more like a club that ppl belong to


Democracy has nothing to do with parties or political affiliation, rather it is a system where the ppl in a society control the government or yield political/social power (Unlike in the US where wealty party plutocrats control the gov)

Don't allow US propraganda to corrupt the real concept of democracy

expatriot
9th February 2006, 04:34
The only "system" that works is anarchy. What I mean by that is no government, no leaders, no rules, no religion, no taxes, no real organization. People helping people for the common good of all.

Dien Bien
9th February 2006, 14:23
I'm not sure if it is entirely correct to say that there would be absolutely no rules or organization. If people are working together for the common good, there must be some organization... perhaps not with strict definitions, but there would be organization - that's how things get done, even under anarchism. It is natural for organization to exist.. individuals, families, communities would all organize themselves in some way, great or small. And there would still be rules, perhaps not codified in a set legal structure, but they would be there as a result of our own human morality... under anarchism it would still be wrong to take the life of another person or to, say, rape them. You can tear or burn down all the government buildings and courthouses, but people will still conduct themselves according to natural, moral laws. Morality, you say, is something taught to us by the society in which we live? True to some extent, but I belief that it is human nature to desire not to harm others unless left with no alternative, that it is part of a universal morality, naturally found in every person with the exception of a few deviants.

leftist resistance
11th February 2006, 12:43
Welcome,Pax :)


Then that means that there is no such thing as a communist country in the world

Yup.there were/are countries who are socialist or call themselves socialist but none have attained communism,which abolish state.