Working

[Global_Justice]

whenever i here people talking about the working classes they always seem to be referring to factories/production. what about working on a checkout, if your working on a checkout your not producing anything, all you are doing is taking the managers (or factory workers) products and selling them, taking some of the money.

so how can you define the value of the labour?

in socialism, the worker gets the whole value of their labour (minus small "tax" for necessities) wouldn't some of the money from the value of the labour have to go to the checkout operator (and shop cleaners, shelf stackers etc) because without them, the worker would'nt be able to get the entire value of their labour in the first place. in which case, are the checkout operators etc, earning money off of the workers labour? :unsure:

i hope that made sense :o

[cbm989]

id like to get an answer to this too...because there are alot of jobs that dont really produce anything. so how do they survive in a communist society?

[Tormented by Treachery]

Well, it would not be a worker in the sense of factories and farming, but definitely the lowest strata of society. I've worked (and indeed, still do) as a cashier at a grocery store, making minimum wage (officially 'living in poverty' as defined by the government, by the way, were I older and living alone). These are workers as well, for is someone who stands still, following corporate directions, selling their items for profit, getting one hour off to eat, and has no money because they have to pay the bills so that they may continue this desparate existence, is someone like that not being exploited? Their labor value is the same as any manufacturer -- just at a later step in the development. For the factory worker that receives the shipments of food, the one who supervises condensing machines, the one who package it, the ones who receive raw materials, the one who is the mechanic for the machinery, the ones who load the cans, etc etc, they are all not directly creating the product, they are just a step in the whole process. Selling the item at that wage is the same thing, it is just at the very last step from farm to consumer.