Hammer And Sickle?

[WUOrevolt]

To me, the hammer and sickle is not a symbol of comunism but of the soviet system. I prefer this design:

http://www.legalize-party.com/IMG/gif/Kipt...-logo-copie.gif (http://www.legalize-party.com/IMG/gif/Kiptik-records-logo-copie.gif)

What do you guys think?

[WUOrevolt]

http://www.essential-trading.co.uk/asp/int...ages/kiptik.gif (http://www.essential-trading.co.uk/asp/interest/images/kiptik.gif)

[Hiero]

The Hammer Sickle has been used in every true proleteriat and national liberation movement. From the creation of the USSR to Vietnam to the overthrow of aparthiad in South Africa. The oppressed people have no problems with the hammer and sickle and neither do i.

[Seong]

ditto.

Yours is very nice too, but the hammer and sickle represents historical class struggles. That's not something you just turn your back on.

[WUOrevolt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 08:54 AM
ditto.

Yours is very nice too, but the hammer and sickle represents historical class struggles. That's not something you just turn your back on.
It's not mine, it is the symbol of British based Zapatista solidarity group.

[Enragé]

it would be not a bad idea if we'd ALL change all the hammer and sickle thingies we ALL use, might take away some of the prejudice towards our beliefs...cuz face it, an opressive murderous regime used it as a symbol for almost a century.

then again, i can also get where the rest in this topic are coming from...


oh and not to be annoying but there's nothing wrong with the soviet system, which just means council system. Problem is stalin fucked it up.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Mmh yeah, but who can guarantee the next symbol will not be misused again? That way we can keep shifting symbols. Maybe it'd be better if we prove Stalin and his kind wrong. After all, it's all about the revolution, and not symbols, right?

[Jadan ja]

I don't think that there is any problem with the symbol other than that it became (to me) in a way boring. Inventing another symbol and using it sometimes (but not completely removing the old symbol) is a good thing. I like the symbol of that group.

[Enragé]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 12:22 PM
Mmh yeah, but who can guarantee the next symbol will not be misused again? That way we can keep shifting symbols. Maybe it'd be better if we prove Stalin and his kind wrong. After all, it's all about the revolution, and not symbols, right?
yea sure

but
would be nice if i could draw a hammer and sickle-ish symbol without people thinking i support one of the greatest mass murderers in history ya know..

[Comrada J]

I love the Hammer and sickle. I feel all fuzzy inside when I see it.

[Abood]

the hammer and sickle is a great symbol and shall not be replaced. it has represented and united class struggles all around the world. the other symbol is cool but we already have a symbol :)

[Delirium]

Originally posted by Socialist [email protected] 6 2006, 03:45 PM
the hammer and sickle is a great symbol and shall not be replaced. it has represented and united class struggles all around the world. the other symbol is cool but we already have a symbol :)
Is that from one of the C&C's? :lol: I love those games.

Edit: I'm refering to the image

[Dr Mindbender]

Some of my favourite logos: :D
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4688/logos0vn.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=logos0vn.jpg)

[Comrada J]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4484/sickle3yz.jpg

[Abood]

Originally posted by Datura inoxia+Feb 6 2006, 03:50 PM--> (Datura inoxia @ Feb 6 2006, 03:50 PM)
Socialist [email protected] 6 2006, 03:45 PM
the hammer and sickle is a great symbol and shall not be replaced. it has represented and united class struggles all around the world. the other symbol is cool but we already have a symbol :)
Is that from one of the C&C's? :lol: I love those games.

Edit: I'm refering to the image [/b]
I dunno, i found it in an image search.
What is the C&C's anyway?!

[Jadan ja]

Picture posted by Komrad J is looks nice.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by Socialist Advocate+Feb 11 2006, 02:50 PM--> (Socialist Advocate @ Feb 11 2006, 02:50 PM)
Originally posted by Datura [email protected] 6 2006, 03:50 PM

Socialist [email protected] 6 2006, 03:45 PM
the hammer and sickle is a great symbol and shall not be replaced. it has represented and united class struggles all around the world. the other symbol is cool but we already have a symbol :)
Is that from one of the C&C's? :lol: I love those games.

Edit: I'm refering to the image
I dunno, i found it in an image search.
What is the C&C's anyway?! [/b]
Command & Conquer, a series of RTS-based games.


http://actionvault.ign.com/top_images/redfaction_a.jpg

[Comrada J]

Originally posted by RedFaction+Feb 12 2006, 10:50 AM--> (RedFaction @ Feb 12 2006, 10:50 AM)
Originally posted by Socialist Advocate+Feb 11 2006, 02:50 PM--> (Socialist Advocate @ Feb 11 2006, 02:50 PM)
Is that from one of the C&C's? :lol: I love those games.

Edit: I'm refering to the image [/b]
Socialist [email protected] 11 2006, 02:50 PM

I dunno, i found it in an image search.
What is the C&C's anyway?!
Command & Conquer, a series of RTS-based games.

[/b]
Yeah, you get to work for comrade stalin in one of 'em. :D


Jadan ja
Picture posted by Komrad J is looks nice.
It's from the new game Hammer & Sickle (http://www.hammer-sickle.com/) Which should be coming out in Australia later this month...

[More Fire for the People]

I like this:
http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/wiki/images/thumb/a/ac/180px-Earthfirstmonkeywrench.gif
and this:
http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/wiki/images/thumb/3/3e/180px-Anarchy_symbol_neat.png

[WUOrevolt]

Deigo Armando, it would be great if those two could be combined into one. I love them both.

[Forward Union]

Woot :)

[razboz]

I think one of the most important things about the hamer and sickle is that they are graphically unique and easy to draw again and again, which is essential in a propaganda campaign. Instant recognition is one of the most important features of a logo, as any pblicist will probably tell you (if they dont i will claim to never have written the previous sentence). Even though it has many negative connotations it also has recognition that iot would take years to recreat. Which isnt a problem if we can all agree on a logo and arent in a hurry to start the revolution...