The end of the Internet?

[Atlas Swallowed]

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060213/chester

This truly sucks, a regulated more more commercialized internet. If it comes to pass it will suck for everyone except large corporations. I don't want Mc Internet screw that.

[amanondeathrow]

Content from these providers would have first priority on our computer and television screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to-peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply shut out.
You can guess what lane this site will be relegated to.

Imagine how the next presidential election would unfold if major political advertisers could make strategic payments to Comcast so that ads from Democratic and Republican candidates were more visible and user-friendly than ads of third-party candidates with less funds.
Is it really that surprising that corporations have found a way to better profit and influence through new and popular technology? They seem to have done it with television, so it seems inevitable that the internet will end up under their control. Also, the US of programs like Limewire and Kaza have severely hurt music industry profits and this would surly eliminate that threat, or at least marginalize it.

[SmithSmith]

Just terrible and this is getting ridiculous.

I predict the corporations will win and consumers will be screwed.

A new tool to brainwash.

[Atlas Swallowed]

Dees nuts-Anarcho-Monarchist that is joke? or do you enjoy oxymorons?

This site will probably hit a roadblock let alone have a lane.

[which doctor]

I heard about something like this. People would have certain access levels to the internet. The more you pay, the more you get. I would hardly be suprized if it actually happened.

[Delirium]

I've heard bit's and pieces on this subject before. It seems ineviatble that the internet go the route of the other two modes of free information exchange (tv and radio) Both hailed in the same way when invented.

[amanondeathrow]

Dees nuts-Anarcho-Monarchist that is joke? or do you enjoy oxymorons?
Yeah, of course its a joke ;) . I got it from an author who described himself as such in a book I think was called "The Left Revivesed" or something similar. I still don't really understand how it would work, but at least it amuses me.

[Publius]

I find this to be seriously depressing as well.

The utter gall of these bastards is astounding; what pompous fucking pricks.

But I honestly doubt that what they want to happen, will happen.

There is no way that Google et al will be compliant in these scheme. They won't stand around and let the ISPs fuck with their profit margins.

See, what the ISPs want to do is exclude Google and Co. and creat their own proprietery alternative (Think Prodigy/Compuserve), or extort them into paying.

I don't think major companies, like Microsoft, will go along with it.

They aren't ones to be bossed around by the telecoms.

Without the content providers, the telcos have shit to sell.

This is something I will never support or stand for. I consider it to be an effrontery to my principals.

[Seong]

This is fucking intolerable. Everything in this fucking world is becoming a commodity. How can this happen - it is a direct violation of civil liberties and human rights?

I hope it happens, and soon. The sooner they try and sell us the right to our freedom of choice and speech the sooner the workers will unite against those fucking, greedy pigs.

[Zingu]

The Society of the Spectacle :(


I rather fight in the streets than let them turn the internet into an other version of dummy-vision. I mean....I have learned so much vauable knowledge and a whole new world of ideas here. This is totalitarian!

I mean...we're being DOMINATED by capital, this is fucking insane...hell, this is going to LIMIT people's intellect, there is so much discourse and exchange of knowledge here..gahhh, this is even hard to comprehend!

Not that we should no expect it...capital always searches out new markets, this was only waiting to happen in a post-industrial society.



Whatever, this is a really good time to riot in the streets when this comes to pass. :angry:

[cccpcommie]

we will create our own "internet"...we dont need comcast or anything and all proceeds would go to the socialist party of your choice...if theres a will theres a way :D

[Seong]

I like the cut of you jib! :D

[Atlas Swallowed]

Originally posted by Dee's [email protected] 3 2006, 01:51 AM

Dees nuts-Anarcho-Monarchist that is joke? or do you enjoy oxymorons?
Yeah, of course its a joke ;) . I got it from an author who described himself as such in a book I think was called "The Left Revivesed" or something similar. I still don't really understand how it would work, but at least it amuses me.
It is amusing but people have had sillier ideas. The shit people believe like eco-faschism just making sure, did not hear of that one until recently and thought it was a joke at first.

[Sense-A]

Some good questions. If you pay for cable or satellite television, why are you still subject to watching commercials and paid advertising? The internet is already a shadow of what it was 10 years ago. The days of free internet access will one day be long gone.

[apathy maybe]

I haven't read the article, but didn't there used to be "private" internets? AOL, Prodigy et al.? Didn't people stop paying because they could access the real Internet and get much more content?

I doubt that the days of many closed internets will come again.

[Seong]

I think you've got a point there, and I hope you're right. The scope of the internet is so much greater than tv or radio could ever hope to achieve. The powers that be will face a serious backlash if they try to restrict access by payment.

[Publius]

I haven't read the article, but didn't there used to be "private" internets? AOL, Prodigy et al.? Didn't people stop paying because they could access the real Internet and get much more content?

I doubt that the days of many closed internets will come again.

It was e-mail the broke up the BBSs.

People wanted to email people on other servers.

[Zak]

This is just ridiculous. I don't think it will happen to the degree they are talking about. Part of the internet is that it isn't located in any one place or controlled by one person. If the ISPs buy it all up what's to stop us from just making a new, independent internet? Now all be it I could see the comercial aspects of the internet bought up, like email and webmessaging, but with major comanies like Google and Amazon against it, I don't think it will happen.

[Publius]

This is just ridiculous. I don't think it will happen to the degree they are talking about. Part of the internet is that it isn't located in any one place or controlled by one person.

I don't think it will happen, but it isn't rediculous.



If the ISPs buy it all up what's to stop us from just making a new, independent internet?

How are you going to connect to it if you don't own the pipes?



Now all be it I could see the comercial aspects of the internet bought up, like email and webmessaging, but with major comanies like Google and Amazon against it, I don't think it will happen.

I agree.

With companies like Microsoft against you, you can't hope to win.

[Zak]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 09:28 PM

This is just ridiculous. I don't think it will happen to the degree they are talking about. Part of the internet is that it isn't located in any one place or controlled by one person.

I don't think it will happen, but it isn't rediculous.

Oh right sorry I should have clarified, that the ISPs are trying is ridiculous, I mean to say I think they are being ridiculouse in doing so.

For your second point your right, they do controle the pipes. I stand corrected

[Sense-A]

Just recently the mass media was reporting about proposals of privatizing the internet. Having levels of access. These sort of restrictions already exist. Go to your local school or library and see if you can access half the websites you are used to. Entire servers are inaccessible because of certain 'keywords' or graphical content. Spamming has run amuck. Internet advertising is cyber litter. We got thousands of gov't agents posing as minors trying to lure horny webcam users. Over half the internet is pornography. The government is going to start cracking down and don't be surprised if revolutionaryleft.com becomes illegal for one reason or another.

It wouldn't surprise me if members of this site haven't already been interrogated or prosecuted for anti-american attitudes. I foresee that in the near future all internet monetary transactions will be monitored so that the government can collect on millions of lost tax revenue.

[Zero]

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Give it three more years and the computer will be just another Idiot box. >.<

[theraven]

heres the way it works from my undersetaning
all sites who do the basic thing get a base speed. so no one gets blcoked out. but lets your amazon, you can pay a few extra books and wallaa your gong faster then everyone else. thats basicly how it works..

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Just recently the mass media was reporting about proposals of privatizing the internet. Having levels of access. These sort of restrictions already exist. Go to your local school or library and see if you can access half the websites you are used to.

That&#39;s why it&#39;s better to have your own internet connection rather than relying on the tender mercies and irrational moralities of government & private institutions.

The day they try to limit my private access to whatever websites I want is the day I tell them to fuck off&#33;


Spamming has run amuck. Internet advertising is cyber litter.

That unfortunately comes with the freedom of the internet. It&#39;s a win/lose situation and is pretty much unavoidable, including sites that advocate child abuse and racial hatred. But I would rather have the freedom than go without it. The best thing to do is complain to their ISPs (Who might not know that they are hosting truly objectionable content) and supervise young children when they go on the internet, rather than relying on website blockers and such programs to do your parenting for you.


We got thousands of gov&#39;t agents posing as minors trying to lure horny webcam users.

I&#39;ve not heard of it being done that way, but if it&#39;s obvious that what&#39;s being advertised by the sting operation is child pornography then I have no problem.


Over half the internet is pornography.

Got a source for that? Even better, tell me why that&#39;s a bad thing.


The government is going to start cracking down and don&#39;t be surprised if revolutionaryleft.com becomes illegal for one reason or another.

Hopefully not, but you can never be sure in these uncertain times.


It wouldn&#39;t surprise me if members of this site haven&#39;t already been interrogated or prosecuted for anti-american attitudes.

It has happened to one member at least, but I doubt that his membership of revleft had anything to do with it.


I foresee that in the near future all internet monetary transactions will be monitored so that the government can collect on millions of lost tax revenue.

More money-grubbing bullshit. I wouldn&#39;t be surprised.

[red team]

Over half the internet is pornography.
Got a source for that? Even better, tell me why that&#39;s a bad thing.

Not that it is, I&#39;m not the one to complain :D , but it&#39;s just another indication of...


Originally posted by Zero
...computer will be just another Idiot box. >.<



Spamming has run amuck. Internet advertising is cyber litter.
That unfortunately comes with the freedom of the internet.

Yes, but the reason why most people hate it is because its unsolicited advertising. It&#39;s the same garbage I get in the mail that goes from my hand directly to the waste basket. Most people if they really want to be informed about consumer products will actively look for it which isn&#39;t hard to do with the abundance of media we have today.

[Comrade J]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 04:27 AM
heres the way it works from my undersetaning
all sites who do the basic thing get a base speed. so no one gets blcoked out. but lets your amazon, you can pay a few extra books and wallaa your gong faster then everyone else. thats basicly how it works..
Yeah fantastic mate, well done for re-discovering broadband, but I think your idea is a few years too late. :huh: Same thing, only you&#39;re paying ISPs and not Amazon etc.

[Zero]

What I think he means is that BAD pron has taken over half of teh intarweb.

You know, that kind of stuff with like, Julia Robert&#39;s head, and like, the body of a platypus... or like any of the beastiality sites... And I&#39;m not going to even get into the Autoerotic Asphyxiation websites.

[Raj Radical]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 04:27 AM
heres the way it works from my undersetaning
all sites who do the basic thing get a base speed. so no one gets blcoked out. but lets your amazon, you can pay a few extra books and wallaa your gong faster then everyone else. thats basicly how it works..
No.


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