How natural is it?

[LA GUERRA OLVIDADA]

First off, I'm not here to bash gays necessarily, I know someone will quote me and say "Yes you are!!", but I'm not.. I'll start out with one point I'd like to make..

1. Does it really feel good to get done in the butt?

- I don't think it does, not naturally atleast. There are more nerves in a male's rectum than a female's, that is fact, but there are a hell of a lot more nerves in the male's penis than there are in his rectum, just fact. Why would it feel good to gays but a straight man would never want that to happen(get done in the butt)?

I always hear "Oh I was born this way, I've always known"

If that's so, do you gays think it is genetic? Is it a genetic mess-up and just a rare thing? Or is it influenced by how you're raised/what happens in your life?

If being gay is "natural" and everyone was just suddenly born gay, the human race would cease to exist..

[Tormented by Treachery]

Firstly, why would females allow anal sex themselves? Secondly, the 'male g spot' is actually most easily accessed by inserting a finger or penis into the rectum and rubbing towards the front area, so I would guess the friction rubs that spot. Third, there are other ways for homosexuals to have sex, just like there are for heterosexuals. Fourth, if they are really in love, they will be uncomfortable for a little while for their partner's pleasure, just like heterosexual oral and anal sex.

'Gayness' is, from what I understand of it, caused by different balances of chemicals in the brain and hormonal differences from that of heterosexuals. This would imply that it is 'caused' by genetics, but this can be affected by growth and development.

Homosexuality is natural: simply look to nature, where every species has its homosexual population.

The part about "I was born this way, I've always known."...
I ask you, Olvidada, when did you decide you were going to be a heterosexual?

[Chicken of Bristol]

Does it really feel good to get done in the butt?

Personal preference really. Contrary to popluar opinion, not all gay men like reciving anal sex.


Why would it feel good to gays but a straight man would never want that to happen(get done in the butt)?


Rioters bloc adressed this quite well here.
the fear of "femininity" among men (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=44516)


Is it a genetic mess-up and just a rare thing?

If by rare you mean abnormal, no. Estimates vary as to what percent of the population is homosexual. Kinsey placed it at 10%, conservatives place it as low as 2%. In any case, for a trait to be considered "abnormal", it must be exibited in less than 1% of the population. And if you are not here to bash gays, refrain from using the phrase "genetic mess up", it makes you sound slightly homophobic.


If being gay is "natural" and everyone was just suddenly born gay, the human race would cease to exist..


Yes, but not everyone is gay are they?

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by LA GUERRA [email protected] 28 2006, 08:56 PM
First off, I'm not here to bash gays necessarily,
necessarily? as in you could be bashing gays?


- I don't think it does, not naturally atleast.

Sure sounds like your 'bashing gays' to me...


I always hear "Oh I was born this way, I've always known"

If that's so, do you gays think it is genetic? Is it a genetic mess-up and just a rare thing? Or is it influenced by how you're raised/what happens in your life?

Sound a bit aggressive to me...


If being gay is "natural" and everyone was just suddenly born gay, the human race would cease to exist...

So?

I don't like your tone, I think this topic is subtly homophobic.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by Chicken of [email protected] 28 2006, 05:14 PM

Does it really feel good to get done in the butt?

Personal preference really. Contrary to popluar opinion, not all gay men like reciving anal sex.
True, like Tormented by Treachery said, that stimulates the prostate gland in males and is indirect stimulation for females. *Sigh*, sex-ed fails again.



Why would it feel good to gays but a straight man would never want that to happen(get done in the butt)?


Rioters bloc adressed this quite well here.
the fear of "femininity" among men (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=44516)

Yeah, I addressed that a little too; good thread. This is just "common knowledge," which basically equates to agenda-motivated ignorance, sexuality isn't so black and white.



If being gay is "natural" and everyone was just suddenly born gay, the human race would cease to exist..


Yes, but not everyone is gay are they?

Plus that is entirely false. There was a book (I forget the name) written about such a (currently absurd) turn of events and reverse sexual phobias. I hope everyone is familiar with cellular insemination? We can always make more people, and increase in the homosexual preference has some obvious benefits (the trait survives in many species).

[boosh logic]

In terms of natural, everything that develops involving our genes and genetic mutations are natural. If you develop a good sense of smell, that is natural, if you develop cancer (unless by smoking, etc) that is natural. If homosexuality is a result of changes in genetic makeup, which it most probably is, then it is just as natural as heterosexuality.

[Goatse]

the 'male g spot' is actually most easily accessed by inserting a finger or penis into the rectum and rubbing towards the front area,

Thanks, I've been looking for that for ages.

[LA GUERRA OLVIDADA]

the 'male g spot' is actually most easily accessed by inserting a finger or penis into the rectum and rubbing towards the front area, so I would guess the friction rubs that spot.
That's fucking disgusting. My penis works good enough thanks.


'Gayness' is, from what I understand of it, caused by different balances of chemicals in the brain and hormonal differences from that of heterosexuals. This would imply that it is 'caused' by genetics, but this can be affected by growth and development.
How come many child abuse/sexual abuse victims turn out to be gay?


Homosexuality is natural: simply look to nature, where every species has its homosexual population.
It's pretty rare in nature actually, it does occur but so does animals with three legs.


The part about "I was born this way, I've always known."...
I ask you, Olvidada, when did you decide you were going to be a heterosexual?
Since I started liking girls. I was never attracted to boys since I can remember, I probably thought girls were "gross" but only because of social reasons and just because I was a kid, but I was NEVER attracted to males.. When I developed my sex drive I became attracted to females, not males.


And if you are not here to bash gays, refrain from using the phrase "genetic mess up", it makes you sound slightly homophobic.
If it was normal for every person to have the genes to be gay, it would be a normal gene. If it is not intended to be gay, it is a genetic mess-up.. Just like any other genetic birth defects are considered genetic mess-ups.


necessarily? as in you could be bashing gays?
You're so witty.


I don't like your tone, I think this topic is subtly homophobic.
I think you're subtly a fucking loser.


True, like Tormented by Treachery said, that stimulates the prostate gland in males and is indirect stimulation for females. *Sigh*, sex-ed fails again.
Dawg, if sticking your fucking finger up your butt felt better than masturbating then every dude would be fingering his butthole in the privacy of their own homes, but I've never done it.


In terms of natural, everything that develops involving our genes and genetic mutations are natural. If you develop a good sense of smell, that is natural, if you develop cancer (unless by smoking, etc) that is natural. If homosexuality is a result of changes in genetic makeup, which it most probably is, then it is just as natural as heterosexuality.
Well yeah, if you weren't such a technical ***** you could understand that when I say unnatural I mean it wasn't intended for nature to further itself and survive. If everyone was born with X genetic defect the human race wouldn't survive, therefore unnatural.. Now if no one is born with severe genetic defects the population would reproduce and therefore survive, if everyone had this "homosexual gene" then no one would survive and no one could reproduce.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by LA GUERRA [email protected] 28 2006, 06:52 PM

'Gayness' is, from what I understand of it, caused by different balances of chemicals in the brain and hormonal differences from that of heterosexuals. This would imply that it is 'caused' by genetics, but this can be affected by growth and development.
How come many child abuse/sexual abuse victims turn out to be gay?


I don't like your tone, I think this topic is subtly homophobic.
I think you're subtly a fucking loser.


In terms of natural, everything that develops involving our genes and genetic mutations are natural. If you develop a good sense of smell, that is natural, if you develop cancer (unless by smoking, etc) that is natural. If homosexuality is a result of changes in genetic makeup, which it most probably is, then it is just as natural as heterosexuality.
Well yeah, if you weren't such a technical ***** you could understand that when I say unnatural I mean it wasn't intended for nature to further itself and survive.
That is two flames and a homophobic statement. I'm issuing you three warning points and if you refuse to respect the members here, I suggest you get prepared to be banned.

Are you trying to convince us that you aren't gay, or yourself? No one here cares; you don't need to take your confusion out on other people.

[bed_of_nails]

How come many child abuse/sexual abuse victims turn out to be gay?

How was that homophobic? I think that was the closest thing to a valid point he had.

[LA GUERRA OLVIDADA]

That wasn't homophobic at all.

[bombeverything]

First off, I'm not here to bash gays necessarily, I know someone will quote me and say "Yes you are!!", but I'm not.. I'll start out with one point I'd like to make..

I agree with Additives, yes you are. If you are not, than what exactly is your point. Or moreover, who cares?!


1. Does it really feel good to get done in the butt?

Clearly the answer is yes for those who do it. Although more importantly, why are you so interested?


I don't think it does, not naturally atleast. There are more nerves in a male's rectum than a female's, that is fact, but there are a hell of a lot more nerves in the male's penis than there are in his rectum, just fact. Why would it feel good to gays but a straight man would never want that to happen(get done in the butt)?

I personally believe that homosexuality is primarily natural, and mediated by social factors. A "straight" male wouldn't like to have that happen because that would usually mean they were having sex with another male.


If being gay is "natural" and everyone was just suddenly born gay, the human race would cease to exist..

This is irrelevant. What is your point exactly?


That's fucking disgusting. My penis works good enough thanks.

No one wants to know about your penis thanks.


It's pretty rare in nature actually, it does occur but so does animals with three legs.

So if something is rare, it is unnatural? "Heterosexuality is not normal, just common". What a great quote.


Dawg, if sticking your fucking finger up your butt felt better than masturbating then every dude would be fingering his butthole in the privacy of their own homes, but I've never done it.

Maybe you should try it then.


Well yeah, if you weren't such a technical ***** you could understand that when I say unnatural I mean it wasn't intended for nature to further itself and survive. If everyone was born with X genetic defect the human race wouldn't survive, therefore unnatural.. Now if no one is born with severe genetic defects the population would reproduce and therefore survive, if everyone had this "homosexual gene" then no one would survive and no one could reproduce.

As has been mentioned in other similar posts, we are challenging the idea that the only things considered to be "natural" are those things which further reproduction.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 08:16 PM

How come many child abuse/sexual abuse victims turn out to be gay?

How was that homophobic? I think that was the closest thing to a valid point he had.
I guess that could be debatable but the question was completely unrelated, unfounded and implies that sexual preference is somehow a mental disorder developed in childhood.

The point wasn't valid either. Where are the statistics that show child abuse = homosexuality?

[LA GUERRA OLVIDADA]

Originally posted by 313C7 [email protected] 29 2006, 03:00 AM
Where are the statistics that show child abuse = homosexuality?
Where is your common sense? Haven't you met sex abuse victims?

[Led Zeppelin]

1. Does it really feel good to get done in the butt?

- I don't think it does, not naturally atleast. There are more nerves in a male's rectum than a female's, that is fact, but there are a hell of a lot more nerves in the male's penis than there are in his rectum, just fact. Why would it feel good to gays but a straight man would never want that to happen(get done in the butt)?

I always hear "Oh I was born this way, I've always known"

If that's so, do you gays think it is genetic? Is it a genetic mess-up and just a rare thing? Or is it influenced by how you're raised/what happens in your life?

If being gay is "natural" and everyone was just suddenly born gay, the human race would cease to exist..

Who cares?

Seriously, if some people want to have sex and love people of the same sex, who cares? Does it harm anyone? Does it "piss you off"? Then I suggest you get a fucking life.

I used to ask such questions as you do, until I came to the realization that it doesn't matter, some people love people of the same sex, sometimes even of both sexes, and that is how they want to live their lives personally, I don't care about another persons personal life, they can do whatever they please.

Now, is it right for such people to have less rights than other people? No, that is reactionary to the core, they must have complete equal rights, and homosexuality in general must be seen as something normal, instead of as something abnormal, which it is seen as today by most people in Capitalist society (maybe not "officially" or "out in the open" but it is there).

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by LA GUERRA OLVIDADA+Jan 28 2006, 10:22 PM--> (LA GUERRA OLVIDADA @ Jan 28 2006, 10:22 PM)
313C7 [email protected] 29 2006, 03:00 AM
Where are the statistics that show child abuse = homosexuality?
Where is your common sense? Haven't you met sex abuse victims? [/b]
The people you meet aren&#39;t necessarily reflective of child abuse or homosexuality in total <_< Do people just approach you to discuss childhood abuse?

Yeah, I guess you really seem like a sensitive shoulder to cry on...

[ricardsju]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 01:16 AM

How come many child abuse/sexual abuse victims turn out to be gay?

How was that homophobic? I think that was the closest thing to a valid point he had.


Well they don&#39;t, pedophiles who are homosexual often pick out effeminate (who maybe still would of turn out to be a homosexual if not for the abuse) or homosexual(if old enough to know) boys to abuse as they are more likey not to go to the police as a adult. The other thing is pedophiles will often now seek out young pedophiles (only 13-18 years old) to help them groom younger children (remember pedophiles don&#39;t pop out of thin air&#33;), if the older pedophile is busted then the younger one will clam he is a victim and is just gay and not a abuser.

many adults who are physicaly abused become effeminate and meek but there is not proof at all that they are homosexuals.


and here is a very long list of animals that practice homosexual behavior (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_practicing_homosexual_behavior)

and a wiki page for Non-human animal sexuality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-human_animal_sexuality)

[LA GUERRA OLVIDADA]

If a child is molested, they are more likely to be gay.

[Chicken of Bristol]

If a child is molested, they are more likely to be gay.

Wow, your evidence is overwhelming.

[ReD_ReBeL]

well back to the main topic, i think homosexuality is natural in the term meaning &#39;your born gay&#39;. This explians the &#39;sissy&#39; voice which gay men tend to have and also the feminine interests as well.And gay men appear to walk far more like woman than they do like men.
Although....since homosexuality is more accepted these days there tends to be more gays;is this due to the culture there brought up with ie flamboyancey on tv and an openely &#39;gay culture&#39; and more open talk about homosexuality? could this mean homosexualty sort of evolves as what you choose to accept when your growing up? or is this jst sheer coinsidence?
I believe your born gay but there always a possibility of either.

Talking of sexuality....
Additves Free:That girl in your avator looks hot, is that you? if so and your over 16 i wouldent mind giving you a fuck. ;)

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by LA GUERRA [email protected] 28 2006, 10:42 PM
If a child is molested, they are more likely to be gay.
If you cannot prove your agenda-based assertions, just say so,
but DO NOT SPAM, that is not allowed here.

[Shredder]

On the topic of whether anal sex feels good, there is already a scientific explanation that it does. We know that farting or taking a nice dump triggers a positive response in the brain. I imagine that anal sex would be the same phenomenon.

But of course, being gay is not about wanting to take it in the ass. That&#39;s just something many homosexuals do because they want to have sexual intercourse & relations with other males and anal sex is one way to do so.

Anyway, the original poster is just trolling. Just cut to the chase and ban him. Whatever you do, do not attempt to reason with him. That&#39;s what he wants. He&#39;s not a leftist, he doesn&#39;t know jack about politics, and figures the easiest way to form political opinions is to take the opposite position of what anybody else says.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 03:00 AM
On the topic of whether anal sex feels good, there is already a scientific explanation that it does. We know that farting or taking a nice dump triggers a positive response in the brain. I imagine that anal sex would be the same phenomenon.
I cannot really say about that but mostly (sexually at least), it is the direct stimulation of the prostate gland in men (prostate massage). What you are talking about is more like enema fetish :o :lol:

[which doctor]

If it was normal for every person to have the genes to be gay, it would be a normal gene. If it is not intended to be gay, it is a genetic mess-up.. Just like any other genetic birth defects are considered genetic mess-ups.

Saying that is a genetic mess up is like saying green eyes is a genetic mess up. How do you know that it&#39;s normal to be a heterosexual? I&#39;m still sticking to my theory where we are all born bi-sexual. Some of us just have a preference of one sex over another. Early in society the majority of people were straight because that was what carried on the human race. Today, the majority of people are straight because it is socially acceptable to be straight. I tend not to think about such trivalities because in the end, they mean nothing.

How about you go gay for a little bit, experiment with your sexuality. See just how "natural" it feels. Tell us what you thought when you come back, that is if you come back.

[boosh logic]

In terms of natural, everything that develops involving our genes and genetic mutations are natural. If you develop a good sense of smell, that is natural, if you develop cancer (unless by smoking, etc) that is natural. If homosexuality is a result of changes in genetic makeup, which it most probably is, then it is just as natural as heterosexuality.


Well yeah, if you weren&#39;t such a technical ***** you could understand that when I say unnatural I mean it wasn&#39;t intended for nature to further itself and survive. If everyone was born with X genetic defect the human race wouldn&#39;t survive, therefore unnatural.. Now if no one is born with severe genetic defects the population would reproduce and therefore survive, if everyone had this "homosexual gene" then no one would survive and no one could reproduce.

I was being a "technical *****" because I thought you wanted an answer to your question. It seems that in your reply to my comment, you answered your own question - homosexuality is obviously not good for continuation of species, but that is no different to heteros who do not have children. In both cases they can adopt children who otherwise would be facing oprhanage anyway. However, this does not matter, as there are enough new generations being produced for the species to continue, and realistically the world is overpopulated.

[Tormented by Treachery]

Coupla things... First of all, whoever posted that wiki link of all of the species that exhibit homosexual behaviors in support of my statement, I couldn&#39;t help but laugh out loud. Olvidada got pwned, as they say.

Secondly, to expand with the nature of it &#39;feeling good,&#39; I would not know, but this is what I have heard happens, scientifically. But seriously, you&#39;ve never been uncomfortable for a while so your girlfriend or whatever could have a good time? Even down to something as simple as letting your arm fall asleep while she&#39;s leaning against it, etc., that&#39;s of the same nature, pleasing the partner.

Third: Olvidada, you said how you had heard "I&#39;ve always been this way" and then proceeded to answer me when I asked you, jokingly, when you decided. Apparently you missed the point, so I&#39;ll spell it out. You realize that you never chose, you&#39;ve always been repulsed by guys. A homosexual male would be the same way, except always being repulsed by females, dig? He would never have chosen, all he has known is being attracted to females.

Four: If someone is molested, they are more likely to be gay... Ok, I&#39;ll just presume for a moment that this is true. Does this mean that most gay people were molested? Of course not. In a separate point, what&#39;s the percent of rape and molestation victims that commit suicide or become crazy? I&#39;d be willing to guess it&#39;s much higher than that of the normal population, so does this mean that all of them are subjects of defects?

Fifth: To support Fist of Blood, having 6 fingers is actually a dominant gene, but would you consider it &#39;normal&#39;? We are all genetic fuck ups, those of us with 10 fingers, according to your logic, my friend.

[Abood]

I dont really care whether its natural or not natural...
if its natural, then its natural, and if its not, well, ppl change with time.
gay people need rights, bcuz its not up to any1 to decide sum1&#39;s sexual preferences. its none of the governments business whether i want to screw a guy or a girl. if someone thinks its wrong, then well, i never told him to do it.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by LA GUERRA [email protected] 28 2006, 09:56 PM
1. Does it really feel good to get done in the butt?
Yes it does.


- I don&#39;t think it does, not naturally atleast.

Of course you think it does, that&#39;s why you enjoy doing it.


There are more nerves in a male&#39;s rectum than a female&#39;s, that is fact, but there are a hell of a lot more nerves in the male&#39;s penis than there are in his rectum, just fact.

Is it? Can I see the evidence that makes this fact? Can you link me to a medical report please?


Why would it feel good to gays but a straight man would never want that to happen(get done in the butt)?

Many straight men do try it, I&#39;m certain you have tried it, but they just don&#39;t talk about it.


I always hear "Oh I was born this way, I&#39;ve always known"

If that&#39;s so, do you gays think it is genetic? Is it a genetic mess-up and just a rare thing? Or is it influenced by how you&#39;re raised/what happens in your life?

There is no irrefutable evidence to suggest what it is, so the simple answer is: No one knows.


If being gay is "natural" and everyone was just suddenly born gay, the human race would cease to exist..

Gay people can still concieve and give birth to children...


How come many child abuse/sexual abuse victims turn out to be gay?


Because 1 in 10 humans are gay so there is obviously going to be a proportion of child abusers who are gay.

Many child abusers are also straight, in fact the majority of child abusers are straight men on family members according to the NSPCC.

Unfortunatly the newspapers and other mainstream media outlets tend to cover homosexual child abuse more that straight child abuse, so you just get to hear about it more.


It&#39;s pretty rare in nature actually, it does occur but so does animals with three legs.

Are you equating homosexuality with disability?

Homosexuality exists among all animals.



, when did you decide you were going to be a heterosexual?

Since I started liking girls. I was never attracted to boys since I can remember, I probably thought girls were "gross" but only because of social reasons and just because I was a kid, but I was NEVER attracted to males.. When I developed my sex drive I became attracted to females, not males.

It&#39;s the same for gay people too.


If it was normal for every person to have the genes to be gay, it would be a normal gene. If it is not intended to be gay, it is a genetic mess-up.. Just like any other genetic birth defects are considered genetic mess-ups.

Even if this was true, so what?


Dawg, if sticking your fucking finger up your butt felt better than masturbating then every dude would be fingering his butthole in the privacy of their own homes, but I&#39;ve never done it.

You probably have, most men try it at least once, so if you haven&#39;t done it yet, you will at some point. Human beings are naturally curious, so to assert that straight men don&#39;t do it, is just impossible. They obviously do do it.


if everyone had this "homosexual gene" then no one would survive and no one could reproduce.

That&#39;s just not true. is it? It&#39;s absurd to assert that if the world was gay, they would never be any children.

The only time the world would stop surviving was if everyone was born without the ability to procreate.

Just to clarify, gay people can procreate...


If a child is molested, they are more likely to be gay.

Not according to the biggest child protection chairty in the UK, the Department for Social Services or the Centre for Independent Research, Evalution and Training.

[Goatse]

Yes it does.

I agree. I&#39;m not homosexual and it still feels good to stick my finger up my rear.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

I agree. Furtheron, I will not even bother to reply at this crap. I think we all agree. I have only one question: Why is this person still not banned/restricted?


If a child is molested, they are more likely to be gay.

Niggas I&#39;ll hunt you down like dinosaurs alive in the jungle

That&#39;s fucking disgusting.

How come many child abuse/sexual abuse victims turn out to be gay?

fucking loser.

technical *****

You&#39;re stupid for thinking long term "Communism", let alone stateless-ness, can ever be established. History is a continuation of class struggle, to deny that is to be a fucking idiot.

...and so on.

[bed_of_nails]

Originally posted by 313C7 iVi4RX+Jan 28 2006, 08:00 PM--> (313C7 iVi4RX @ Jan 28 2006, 08:00 PM)
[email protected] 28 2006, 08:16 PM

How come many child abuse/sexual abuse victims turn out to be gay?

How was that homophobic? I think that was the closest thing to a valid point he had.
I guess that could be debatable but the question was completely unrelated, unfounded and implies that sexual preference is somehow a mental disorder developed in childhood.

The point wasn&#39;t valid either. Where are the statistics that show child abuse = homosexuality? [/b]
I understand now. I was expecting him to later provide a site with evidence that homosexuality is more common in children who were abused.

I am being accused of homophobia because I mis-interpreted his statement, and assumed him to provide evidence. This angers me a great deal and I believe that people should question me on my intents before labeling me a homophobe. Most people would label it "common sense".


Saying that is a genetic mess up is like saying green eyes is a genetic mess up. How do you know that it&#39;s normal to be a heterosexual? I&#39;m still sticking to my theory where we are all born bi-sexual. Some of us just have a preference of one sex over another. Early in society the majority of people were straight because that was what carried on the human race. Today, the majority of people are straight because it is socially acceptable to be straight. I tend not to think about such trivalities because in the end, they mean nothing.

How about you go gay for a little bit, experiment with your sexuality. See just how "natural" it feels. Tell us what you thought when you come back, that is if you come back.

I wonder about natural bisexuality also. Throughout history it has been common knowledge many societys practiced ritual bisexuality without complaints. Sexuality must be very socially influenced I believe.

I have engaged in anal sex from both positions with both genders. The anal stimulation doesnt really feel good itself, but the result is your penis is far more sensitive during that time.

[Led Zeppelin]

You probably have, most men try it at least once, so if you haven&#39;t done it yet, you will at some point.

Can you prove that most men try it at least once?

I personally have never done it, nor have I had the urge to do it, and I doubt that people such as Lenin, for example, tried it.

[ReD_ReBeL]

You probably have, most men try it at least once, so if you haven&#39;t done it yet, you will at some point

Now why the fuck would i(being straight) want to ram my fucking finger(or any other object) up my arse, huh? my dick works perfectly fine for wanking off and sticking in woman. My arse is stricly Exit Only.
Now before some over sensitive person warns me for being homophobic....well im not im not in the slightest homophobic im just not pussy footing around this question. My ass continues to be Dick free

[bed_of_nails]

Originally posted by Marxism&#045;[email protected] 29 2006, 09:14 PM

You probably have, most men try it at least once, so if you haven&#39;t done it yet, you will at some point.

Can you prove that most men try it at least once?

I personally have never done it, nor have I had the urge to do it, and I doubt that people such as Lenin, for example, tried it.
Why would you use Lenin as a sexual example in anything?

I think Lenin died a virgin.

Are you saying that people you deem great thinkers are incapable of anal sex?

[Tormented by Treachery]

I propose this thread being closed, as it has degenerated (from a pointless statement from the first) into a competition of who can call who a homophobe, a facade of heterosexuality, and a (frankly) disgusting discussion about our own anal sex experiences. Furthermore, I submit that the author should be under review for restriction or banishment.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 11:00 PM
Talking of sexuality....
Additves Free:That girl in your avator looks hot, is that you? if so and your over 16 i wouldent mind giving you a fuck. ;)
Keep it in your pants, this isn&#39;t a fucking bar.


Now why the fuck would i(being straight) want to ram my fucking finger(or any other object) up my arse, huh?

Many straight men find that anal play is sexually pleasing. Maybe you don&#39;t, and that&#39;s fine, but I&#39;m not sure why you feel so threatened by someone suggesting that many men try it...


Now before some over sensitive person warns me for being homophobic....well im not im not in the slightest homophobic im just not pussy footing around this question. My ass continues to be Dick free

I thought we were talking about any object, not just a dick. Enjoying anal sexually play has nothing to do with homosexuality. Homosexuality is to be attracted to someone of the same gender, not to fuck up the ass (to be blunt).

[encephalon]

To clear things up, I am a sexual abuse victim and I&#39;m straight.

I&#39;m straight because I am straight. If I were gay, I&#39;d be gay. Maybe I&#39;ll be gay some day. Maybe not (hopefully so, though, to make you uncomfortable). The debate over whether being gay, straight or bisexual by birth or habitat (although, as it&#39;s been stated, it is quite normal among many mammal species) does not change the fact that people are gay, straight or bisexual. Get used to it.

And I don&#39;t molest children because I was once a molested child. In fact, I don&#39;t molest children at all, male or female&#33; I know, I know, it&#39;s strange, but please forgive me for not aligning with anyone&#39;s particular worldview.

And you&#39;re right, Lenin probably didn&#39;t stick anything in his own ass. He was too busy sticking it in the ass of others... for fuck&#39;s sake, how can you even ascribe something like that to a historical figure with mere conjecture just because you idolize him?&#33;? That&#39;s patently absurd :lol:

This thread is sincerely disappointing to me in a wide variety of ways.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2006, 05:26 AM

You probably have, most men try it at least once, so if you haven&#39;t done it yet, you will at some point

Now why the fuck would i(being straight) want to ram my fucking finger(or any other object) up my arse, huh?
Because it feels good. You do like things that feel good don&#39;t you? I mean, that&#39;s why humans like having sex so much...


my dick works perfectly fine for wanking off and sticking in woman. My arse is stricly Exit Only.

It seems odd that you would purposely close off sexual gratification.


Now before some over sensitive person warns me for being homophobic....well im not im not in the slightest homophobic im just not pussy footing around this question. My ass continues to be Dick free

Hmmm?

Nobody was asserting that straight men should have dicks up their arses. I was merely stating that it was my opinion that the majority of men will, at some point, due to pure curiosity, finger themselves.

In the privacy of their own home, why wouldn&#39;t they?

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by Marxism&#045;[email protected] 30 2006, 05:14 AM
I doubt that people such as Lenin, for example, tried it.
You are a such a loser&#33;

[commiecrusader]

This thread sucks. The guy who started it should be restricted, and the rest of you who keep making stupid statements about &#39;it can&#39;t feel good&#39; etc should shut up. Until you&#39;ve tried it, don&#39;t knock it. And why just cos you don&#39;t like it does it make it unnatural? Gay people might not like straight sex, but it doesn&#39;t make it unnatural? Get a fucking argument you ignorant pricks.

Someone close this thread it&#39;s pissing me off.

Gay sex is natural. Monkeys do it all the time.

[Led Zeppelin]

:lol:

I knew that comment about Lenin would piss off a few people, nice.

The point still remains however, I doubt Lenin stuck his finger up his ass, and TAT has yet to provide numbers for his absurd claim.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by Marxism&#045;[email protected] 30 2006, 03:36 PM
TAT has yet to provide numbers for his absurd claim.
It&#39;s speculation, but one I&#39;m confident is true, simply through my experience of men.

Straight men are never that straight.

[Luís Henrique]

Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 29 2006, 03:36 PM
Yes it does.
See, this explains why people believe homosexuals should be repressed and have fewer rights.

If we allowed people like TAT to expose their personal opinions, one might think that such opinion might carry as much weight as the opinion of a heterosexual male&#33; :lol:

I do not like strawberries. Some people, perhaps most of them, like strawberries. Curiously, nor do I speculate if people who like strawberries have a genetical problem, neither people who like strawberries speculate if I am some kind of a pervert because I don&#39;t like strawberries (their reaction uses to be, "good, more strawberries are left for us").

It comes to mind that neither I am afraid to start liking strawberries, nor people who like strawberries are afraid to stop liking them.

It also comes to mind that the best explanation of why people are so disgusted about other people&#39;s sexual preferences is that they are not as sure about their own sexual preferences as they are, say, about liking or disliking strawberries.

Straight males who aren&#39;t afraid of their own homosexual tensions do like people who like strawberries: they say, "good, less competition"... ;)

Or, in other words, homophobia is always, to a certain extent, autophobia.

(Ah. And nobody who hasn&#39;t talked personally to Nadezhda Krupskaia or Inessa Armand is entitled to speculate about what Lenin liked or disliked in bed.)

Luís Henrique

[Led Zeppelin]

It&#39;s speculation

Thank you, that&#39;s all I wanted to hear.

[Luís Henrique]

It also strikes me that heterosexual males who have such kind of doubt must have a much limited experience with women. Otherwise they would have already met those two weird phenomena of nature: women who like to be anally penetrated (and thus could answer questions on whether anal penetration is pleasurable), and - the horror - women who like to play with their partners&#39; orifices.

:rolleyes:

Luís Henrique

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 30 2006, 10:27 AM
Now confused Straight men are never that straight.
Now I&#39;m confused :lol: Are you suggesting that people tend to be bisexual or at least not gender exclusive? Do you mean that male sexuality isn&#39;t limited to one particular organ? I for one am sure that sexual preference is not determinative of what people enjoy; It&#39;s socialization, experience and individual biology (people overal aren&#39;t that different).

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 11:26 PM
...My ass continues to be Dick free
Damn; people do to a lot of effort to assert how not gay, they are.

Again I ask: who are you trying to convince?

Some people just need to read through these threads and absorb some actual information, instead of denying sexual autophobia (good term Luís Henrique).

[Shredder]

Yes, the fact that so many posters even on this supposed leftist board go out of their way to state that they&#39;re not gay is an expression of how discriminatory this society is. If you truly had no prejudice toward homosexuality you wouldn&#39;t bother to insist that you&#39;re straight. If you had something constructive to say in this discussion you would just say it without thinking twice that people might get the "wrong idea" about you.

[Tormented by Treachery]

Originally posted by Tormented by [email protected] 30 2006, 05:28 AM
I propose this thread being closed, as it has degenerated (from a pointless statement from the first) into a competition of who can call who a homophobe, a facade of heterosexuality, and a (frankly) disgusting discussion about our own anal sex experiences. Furthermore, I submit that the author should be under review for restriction or banishment.
I can see this has gone over well :rolleyes:

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by 313C7 iVi4RX+Jan 30 2006, 09:39 PM--> (313C7 iVi4RX &#064; Jan 30 2006, 09:39 PM)
The Anarchist Tensi[email protected] 30 2006, 10:27 AM
Straight men are never that straight.
Now I&#39;m confused :lol: Are you suggesting that people tend to be bisexual or at least not gender exclusive? Do you mean that male sexuality isn&#39;t limited to one particular organ? I for one am sure that sexual preference is not determinative of what people enjoy; It&#39;s socialization, experience and individual biology (people overal aren&#39;t that different). [/b]
I&#39;m talking about curiosity, which was a point raised by someone else. Straight men, at least in my experience and I&#39;ve had a fair bit (with men who are straight), are usually very curious about anal penetration or the experience of putting a man&#39;s cock in his mouth.

Now, regardless of the protest, using my experience of straight men as a cross section I would speculate the majority of straight men, if not all of them at some point are curious about anal penetration and that this leads to them trying it.

With themselves or with a person.

[The Feral Underclass]

I&#39;d also like to add that when ever I come out, which is quite often considering the amount of people I meet, the same question is always raised at some point [by a man].

"How does it feel?"

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

This thread is sincerely disappointing to me in a wide variety of ways.

Agreed, as the forum as a whole is increasingly becoming.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2006, 09:25 AM

This thread is sincerely disappointing to me in a wide variety of ways.

Agreed, as the forum as a whole is increasingly becoming.
Ugg... how much have you posted? I&#39;ve hardly seen you in this forum.

[Tormented by Treachery]

Originally posted by 313C7 iVi4RX+Jan 31 2006, 03:47 PM--> (313C7 iVi4RX @ Jan 31 2006, 03:47 PM)
[email protected] 31 2006, 09:25 AM

This thread is sincerely disappointing to me in a wide variety of ways.

Agreed, as the forum as a whole is increasingly becoming.
Ugg... how much have you posted? I&#39;ve hardly seen you in this forum. [/b]
:lol: Says the mod with 600 posts less than the member of the Commie Club.

:P

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by Tormented by Treachery+Jan 31 2006, 04:24 PM--> (Tormented by Treachery @ Jan 31 2006, 04:24 PM)
Originally posted by 313C7 [email protected] 31 2006, 03:47 PM

[email protected] 31 2006, 09:25 AM

This thread is sincerely disappointing to me in a wide variety of ways.

Agreed, as the forum as a whole is increasingly becoming.
Ugg... how much have you posted? I&#39;ve hardly seen you in this forum.
:lol: Says the mod with 600 posts less than the member of the Commie Club.

:P [/b]
Did you miss the "I&#39;ve hardly seen you in this forum." part?

It isn&#39;t post-count that matters anyway, constructive and detail-oriented posts are what we need.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Ugg... how much have you posted? I&#39;ve hardly seen you in this forum.

Comrade, by &#39;the forum&#39; I meant Rev Left as a whole, not the &#39;discrimination&#39; section.

If you&#39;ll remember I&#39;m the one that originally proposed the creation of this forum.

[Luís Henrique]

Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 31 2006, 02:09 PM
I&#39;d also like to add that when ever I come out, which is quite often considering the amount of people I meet, the same question is always raised at some point [by a man].

"How does it feel?"
But that should mean that they don&#39;t know, and, so, haven&#39;t tried?

Wait... are you trying to say that they ask the question to dissimulate the fact that they don&#39;t need to ask? :o

So if they don&#39;t ask, it means they have tried, but if they don&#39;t ask, it means they have tried, but don&#39;t want you to know it? :o

Or are you just bringing into discussion the well known fact that paranoia is usually associated with repressed homosexual tendencies? :ph34r:

Very cunning&#33;

Luís Henrique

[rioters bloc]

wow; it seems the name of this forum gives some people the idea that this is a place where they&#39;re free to discriminate and hate and be offensive to their hearts desire. quite a shock to come back from a coupla days of respite to find that a few homophobes have been rearing their ugly heads :/

anyways, i see la guerra olvidada has been banned, and his points have been easily smashed by many others here [as well they should, considering how ludicrous his so called arguments were :/] so i wont bother going too much into it.

a few comments though... there was nothing slight or subtle about the homophobia in the original post. saying that homosexuality is &#39;not natural&#39; is one of the key phrases a homophobe uses, and coupled with the defensive and insulting tone of the post i&#39;d say its even more clear.

what is it that certain men find so disgusting about the location of their g-spot? its just juvenile. grow up, sex is sex is sex. why is something as "natural" [ <_< ] as that feared so much?

homosexuality is not just about sex. shock horror&#33; sometimes gay couples actually... LOVE each other&#33; does nature and the survival of the species have something to say about that too? have you perhaps heard of sperm donors, of ivf, of surrogacy? and on the continuation of the species note, looks like to me that the population of earth is only increasing, never going down - nor has it for at least the last millenium, i believe, if not for many millenia.

anyways, theres a lot more i could say but most of its been said in one form or other.

to repeat what bombeverything and one of the stickers on my bike says, "Hetrosexuality isn&#39;t normal; it&#39;s just more common."

[Black Dagger]

If you see homosexuality as something normal that you personally aren&#39;t into, can&#39;t you just tell them you&#39;re not interested, like you would if a member of the opposite sex who you&#39;re not interested in comes onto you?

Such an excellent point, guys who react with so &#39;conviction&#39; when hit-on by other guys are clearly homophobic.



And again, as much as people accept homosexuality, they rarely want to be associated with it, evident in sentences like &#39;I am not gay, but nothing wrong with it,&#39; as opposed to &#39;Nothing wrong with it.&#39;

Also a very good point, it&#39;s similar to prefacing an argument with &#39;i&#39;m not racist but&#39;- although in the case of sexuality it is more revealing, i shall remember both these points next time i have such a discussion, because these are very common lines/reactions that people have.

Good contributions&#33; :D