Slovakia - current situation and what to do with it?

[Vzdorujuci]

If you know, Slovakia is a small Slav country positioned right in center of good old mother Europe. I guess u don't know the history of it, so let me explain:
-In the year of 1000 Slovakia fell under the Hungarian kingdom. It changed, but after very, very long time, in the year of:
-1918 started the existence of Czechoslovak republic, by the unite of Czech and Slovak people
-In 1938 was established 1st Slovak country, lead by the fascist leader and catholic priest Jozef Tiso (supported by the Nazis)
-In 1945, when the war ended, Czechoslovakia rose again, but:
-In 1948 there was a takeover, which lead the Communist Party to a leading of Czechoslovakia. Those were the first steps of Czechoslovak socialist republic (CSSR)
-And finally, in 17th November 1989, there was the 'Velvet Revolution' and after 14 years I can say that in my country is arrogant, western type of capitalism.

Prime minister, the rightist and pro-American Mikulas Dzurinda and whole government are praying Bush now.There are these parties in our parliament:
We can start with the government coalition:

SDKU (Slovak democratic and christian union): The party from which Dzurinda and financial minister Miklos came.
Right-wing.

ANO (Alliance of the new citizen): Lead by medial boss Pavol Rusko. He owns the largest TV company in SVK (its name's Markiza), magazines, newspapers and radio.
Liberal.

KDH (Christian-democratic movement): I don't know exactly, but for me these people are religious fanatics. Right-wing.

SMK (Party of Magyar Coalition): U know, between two nations (Hungary and SVK) there are a lot of hate and ignorance. So you can imagine nationalism of this party. Right-wing.

Now adverse parties:

HZDS (Movement for democratic Slovakia): Party of thieves and murderers, the strongers (but adverse) party in country, lead by Vladimir Meciar. This person is charismatic, but his arrogant and violent ideas aren't for me. Many members of his party joined Vojtech Tkac - other charismatic, but more acceptable person who left HZDS few weeks ago. Right-wing.

SMER: no shortcuts in this name ;o) Lead by Robert Fico, called 'next Meciar'. I'd appreciate cool programs and changes they brought to Slovakia, but i hate their standing for NATO... Social-democratic.

KSS (Communist party of Slovakia): Typical bolsheviks, lead by Jozef Sevc. But as only party, they're against NATO and USA.

Only ANO, SDKU and SMK are for the war on Iraq.
So, you as the citizens of other states, now please say what shall we do? Just as advice.

Sorry for my bad english ;o)

[CheViveToday]

Welcome to the community! Your English is actually very good :). The situation in your country is interesting. The advice I would give you, is to join the party you agree with the most, and get involved. Talk with people who share your ideals, and influence others to conform to these ideals.

[peaccenicked]

This interview might interest you.
http://www.workerspower.com/wpglobal/Slova...vakia-LRCI.html (http://www.workerspower.com/wpglobal/Slovakia-LRCI.html)
Welcome to the board.

[Subcomandante Marcos]

You should talk to other people who disagree with the goverment and get organize, go to protest and raise the voice, is the only way for people to notice what you are doing.

In my country (Chile) a similar thing is going on.
in 1973 the CIA promoted a coup against the current democratically chosen Goverment, the socialist, Salvador Allende and established a military goverment from the 11 September to the 11 of March of 1990. During this period the country was a hellhole, people died, militaries were all over the streets and the General Pinochet tooke advantage of his power to opress the chilean people.

Ever since 1990 there have been elections every 6 years and the first president was called Alwin (this guy in 1973 signed a document supporting the coup) from the 'Concertacion' (a coalition from the Socialist Party and the Party for Democracy) and the next president was also from this coalition and the current president is also.

But its all fake, they dont have a drop of socialist, they are still controlled by the US and now this corroptions cases have sprang up, its all fucked up.

The students are the majority from the left and manifestations are not rare in the capital, Santiago.
Youth is the future, our voice will be heard one way or another, we are not alone in this, a revoluton is possible

Hasta la Victoria Siempre !

[CheViveToday]

Revolution seems very possible in the future of your country Marcos. Are you involved with any groups or political parties in Chile?

[redstar2000]

For what it's worth, my advice would be to simply forget about electoral politics and concentrate your energies in other directions...particularly massive street protests. This tactic appears to be highly embarrassing to governments all over the world and, in my opinion, shows much more promise for actually changing government policies.

There may be a few places where a political party that runs credible candidates and that doesn't make you gag to vote for them actually exists...but I think they are very rare.

The Venezuelans got lucky. Most of the time, even the so-called "progressive" alternative is just another gang of wannabe thieves...or worse!

If massive demonstrations are impractical, try small demonstrations. In the United States, the first demonstrations against the war in Vietnam involved as few as 10 or 20 participants...they didn't stay that small.

:cool:

[Vzdorujuci]

Yeah i read it... But there's no influence of trotskists in SVK... We're organizing protests, marches against American influence, against war on Iraq and against integration to NATO too... But look, is there any chance? I wouldn't give up but without support and solidarity any resistance shall quit.

[deimos]

I heard that its like that in whole central-eastern europe. There's only one exception: the Czech Republic. The communists doubled their seats in the last elections.
If I was slovakian, I wouldn't be procured at all. The current americanophilia across eastern europe(except the czech republic) is only a temporary phenomenon. In some years the eastern europeans will dislike america as such as we do in the west.
And who cares about NATO anways??The organization is nothing without the americans, and the americans don't care about NATO.Moreover, due to the rapid jons of many eastern european countries the NATO will be uncontrollable when slovakia joins it.

@:Subcommandante Marcos:
I heard that some "experts" say that chile could become a second argentina, but without the crisis. Do you agree?

[Larissa]

Quote: from Vzdorujuci on 12:39 pm on Mar. 12, 2003
Yeah i read it... But there's no influence of trotskists in SVK... We're organizing protests, marches against American influence, against war on Iraq and against integration to NATO too... But look, is there any chance? I wouldn't give up but without support and solidarity any resistance shall quit.
Welcome, Vzdorujuci. And just one little obvious advice, never quit struggling!! You will sure have a lot of support from all of us who are against the US imperialism.

[Kapitan Andrey]

Brother-Vzdorujuci...I know your history well.
What to do!? Hmm...That's really hard...

>For what it's worth, my advice would be to simply forget about electoral politics and concentrate your energies in other directions...particularly massive street protests.<
This is interesting, but I feel, that something is wrong...

Well if you not so much like KSS and you hate others you can do such things:

1) Wait for new party (Against nato and u.s.a. , but non-communist or whatever you want...)
2) Generate a new party!

That's my wish to Slovakia:
Mass manifistations against acception to >nato<!!!

[Larissa]

Quote: from deimos on 4:10 pm on Mar. 12, 2003

@:Subcommandante Marcos:
I heard that some "experts" say that chile could become a second argentina, but without the crisis. Do you agree?
OMG! Hope not!
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I support what deimos says about americanophilia - won't last long, IMO. All you need to do is stand together (together we stand, divided we fall) and don't let the right-wingers become majority ever.