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Global_Justice
27th January 2006, 14:41
is it worth joining them? are any of you members?

accoring to their site they only have branches in..

Branches
» Connecticut, USA
» DC/Maryland, USA
» Dominican Republic
» Luzon, Philippines
» New York, USA
» Nevada, USA
» Tamil Nadu, India


http://www.freepeoplesmovement.org/index2.html

do they not have branches in the UK?

how many people do they have worldwide?

Forward Union
27th January 2006, 15:23
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2006, 03:00 PM
is it worth joining them? are any of you members?

There are a few members here, but im not personally one of them.


do they not have branches in the UK?

If they did they would have listed it. I don't see why you can't establish a branch in the UK, but you'll have to speak to them. naturally they are a hierarchical organisation, and so you'd have to fit leadership standards etc.


how many people do they have worldwide?

No idea. I'll ask CDL to come and answer your questions...

On a side note, have you checked out the organisations list kindly provided by TAT? you can look at it here (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=31615) . Im a member of a Libertarian-Communist group called "The Anarchist Federation" if you want information on the Federation, just ask.

Global_Justice
27th January 2006, 15:45
Originally posted by Additives Free+Jan 27 2006, 03:42 PM--> (Additives Free @ Jan 27 2006, 03:42 PM)
[email protected] 27 2006, 03:00 PM
is it worth joining them? are any of you members?

There are a few members here, but im not personally one of them.


do they not have branches in the UK?

If they did they would have listed it. I don't see why you can't establish a branch in the UK, but you'll have to speak to them. naturally they are a hierarchical organisation, and so you'd have to fit leadership standards etc.


how many people do they have worldwide?

No idea. I'll ask CDL to come and answer your questions...

On a side note, have you checked out the organisations list kindly provided by TAT? you can look at it here (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=31615) . Im a member of a Libertarian-Communist group called "The Anarchist Federation" if you want information on the Federation, just ask. [/b]
cheers mate :D

i'm no-where near the level of setting up a branch :( don't have the time, resources or knowledge, but if there was a branch i would consider joining.

i'll have a look at that list mate, cheers :D

Forward Union
27th January 2006, 17:09
No problem! Still waiting for someone from the movement to get in contact, but they're in a different timezone so your just going to have to wait :P

Nothing Human Is Alien
29th January 2006, 11:43
is it worth joining them?

If you're looking for a 21st century communist organization (non-doctrinaire, not based on yet another 'ism' or personal contributions of one or two men, but rather based on the lessons we've learned from the gains and failures of the world communist and workers' movements over the last 200 years), which is made up completely of workers and their oppressed allies, then yes.


are any of you members?

I am, for one. There are a few more members on this board -- three that I can think of -- but most aren't that active here.


accoring to their site they only have branches in..

Branches
» Connecticut, USA
» DC/Maryland, USA
» Dominican Republic
» Luzon, Philippines
» New York, USA
» Nevada, USA
» Tamil Nadu, India

do they not have branches in the UK?

The organization is now over three years old. Originally there was a branch in the UK, it was the smallest, and eventually it was abolished for a lack of action and activity.

There doesn't have to be a branch in your area for you to join however. We have individual members all over the world, and there may already be a few in the UK.

A branch can be formed when the time is right.

The best thing to do is to send an email to the International Outreach Committee at [email protected] and they can answer any / all questions you have.


how many people do they have worldwide?

That can be considered a pig question, and won't be answered by any members of our organization.

I can tell you that our publications are regularly distributed on 5 continents, so that should give you an idea of our reach.


naturally they are a hierarchical organisation, and so you'd have to fit leadership standards etc.

Comrade, why do you consider the FPM a 'naturaly hierarchial organisation'? Have you looked into how we are organized?

I'm not denying that there is a level of hierachy in our organization, but is nothing like what you'd find in a typical 'Leninist' organization.

We can get deeper into a discussion of that if you'd like, I just want to make sure you're not giving out information based on assumptions.

Forward Union
29th January 2006, 11:54
Originally posted by Comp[email protected] 29 2006, 12:02 PM
Comrade, why do you consider the FPM a 'naturaly hierarchial organisation'? Have you looked into how we are organized?


Yes. And you have admitted that it has a hierarchy, so I don't see any need to defend my claims. Which by the way, are not necessarily criticisms.

The less authoritarian nature of the FPM is respectable, personally im glad, though not surprised, that people are moving away from Leninism.

Global_Justice
29th January 2006, 21:53
Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 12:02 PM

is it worth joining them?

If you're looking for a 21st century communist organization (non-doctrinaire, not based on yet another 'ism' or personal contributions of one or two men, but rather based on the lessons we've learned from the gains and failures of the world communist and workers' movements over the last 200 years), which is made up completely of workers and their oppressed allies, then yes.


are any of you members?

I am, for one. There are a few more members on this board -- three that I can think of -- but most aren't that active here.


accoring to their site they only have branches in..

Branches
» Connecticut, USA
» DC/Maryland, USA
» Dominican Republic
» Luzon, Philippines
» New York, USA
» Nevada, USA
» Tamil Nadu, India

do they not have branches in the UK?

The organization is now over three years old. Originally there was a branch in the UK, it was the smallest, and eventually it was abolished for a lack of action and activity.

There doesn't have to be a branch in your area for you to join however. We have individual members all over the world, and there may already be a few in the UK.

A branch can be formed when the time is right.

The best thing to do is to send an email to the International Outreach Committee at [email protected] and they can answer any / all questions you have.


how many people do they have worldwide?


I can tell you that our publications are regularly distributed on 5 continents, so that should give you an idea of our reach.


naturally they are a hierarchical organisation, and so you'd have to fit leadership standards etc.

Comrade, why do you consider the FPM a 'naturaly hierarchial organisation'? Have you looked into how we are organized?

I'm not denying that there is a level of hierachy in our organization, but is nothing like what you'd find in a typical 'Leninist' organization.

We can get deeper into a discussion of that if you'd like, I just want to make sure you're not giving out information based on assumptions.
cheers for your help mate :D


That can be considered a pig question, and won't be answered by any members of our organization.

:o sorry. i was just wondering about what sort of scale we are talking, whether it was worldwide, or just another mickey mouse organisation. but i understand why you wouldn't want to start giving that sort of information to a non-member. ;)

Nothing Human Is Alien
31st January 2006, 12:02
No problem.

Just contact that IOC like I said.

Nothing Human Is Alien
31st January 2006, 12:06
The less authoritarian nature of the FPM is respectable, personally im glad, though not surprised, that people are moving away from Leninism.

The thing is, we've moved away from 'Leninism', but not Lenin's contributions. We take what we think are contributions from individuals and movements over the years, and leave behind the excess.

There is a real need for different forms of struggle & organization in different situations.

For instance, I don't think Cuba should, or even could, have had a much different system than it did/does (it has evolved & changed over the years), and still continued on with the revolution; but of course, you wouldn't try to mimic their exact approach and system in a place like the U.S.!

Also, I'm not worried about things like 'authoritarianism' as an abstraction, that is seperated from the class struggle, I just wanted to point out that our form of organization is different than that of 'Leninist' organizations.

Ice
31st January 2006, 13:22
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2006, 03:00 PM
is it worth joining them? are any of you members?

accoring to their site they only have branches in..

Branches
» Connecticut, USA
» DC/Maryland, USA
» Dominican Republic
» Luzon, Philippines
» New York, USA
» Nevada, USA
» Tamil Nadu, India


http://www.freepeoplesmovement.org/index2.html

do they not have branches in the UK?

how many people do they have worldwide?
I am a member of the free peoples movement and it is definitely worth joining the movement. :)

loveme4whoiam
31st January 2006, 17:49
Having looked over the site and the manifesto and Organisation articles, I definitely think that I'll be joining as soon as I'm in a position to (financially and when I have sufficient theoretical knowledge). Hopefully they'll open up a formal UK branch, although I'll stiill join and work for the cause individually.