Iraqi Insurgency

[ReD_ReBeL]

Is there any Iraqi guerilla's fighting the US and Al-Queda, that don't attack civillians atall and don't participate in suicide bombings? if so are any Left-wing? names of groups would be good too

[Hefer]

Is there any Iraqi guerilla's fighting the US and Al-Queda

I can't remember where i saw it, but there was some fighting between al-queda and iraqi "patriots" over the death of some iraqi comrades and civilians. I believe it was on MSNBC that came out with the rreport.

[LA GUERRA OLVIDADA]

Who cares if they're left-wing? Most Iraqi "insurgents" are just pissed off Iraqis who want their country back, they're not baby-killing fundamentalists.

[ReD_ReBeL]

[QUOTE]Who cares if they're left-wing? Most Iraqi "insurgents" are just pissed off Iraqis who want their country back, they're not baby-killing fundamentalists. [QUOTE]

Names of the groups would be good then, i would like to research info on these groups. no offence but u saying "most Iraqi insurgents are just pissed off" isn't a good enough answer.

[Conghaileach]

A story from the Newswire:

Insurgents and Al Qaeda clash in Iraq (http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/12/africa/web.0112iraq.php)

[ReD_ReBeL]

thanks yea that is a good article, i abosolutely hate Al-Queda, it's good to see that the local Iraqi Insurgents feel the same as me towards Al-Queda.

[Noah]

Is there any Iraqi guerilla's fighting the US and Al-Queda, that don't attack civillians atall and don't participate in suicide bombings?

I've never heard of any particular groups, being an Iraqi myself living in England, all the phonecalls I get from family back there say all terrorists are bad they have never heard of genuine resistance fighters.

However, I do believe there must be some genuine freedom fighters, who fight Al-Qaeada and the Americans.


f so are any Left-wing?

The Communist Party of Iraq did support the American invasion. This led to other communists breaking off and starting their own ring of rebels or join another rebel group, it is a fact though that some insurgent groups, no matter whether left or right, support each other in attacks on American convoys and soldiers. I think their main aim is to get the Americans out, they've already made enough mess in Iraq.

I like particularly reading about this guy/s this sniper/s has caused alot of havoc and has been given the name 'Juba'. Rumours say he has been caught, I hope he hasn't he's done a very good job of scaring Americans. Whether he has or hasn't been caught, he is undoubtably a very talented sniper. Here is an article on Juba:

Juba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juba_(sniper))

Noah :) - If you're interested in Iraq's situation at the moment and would like another good source of information, I recommend you buy the book 'Behind the Resistance' by Zaki Chehab, I am currently reading it, it is very informative on the resistance and situation.

[ReD_ReBeL]

cheers, yea i was thinking of buying 'behind the resistance' , when Saddam was in power could people move out of Iraq? and could you buy alcohol?

[Noah]

You could move out of Iraq...well we moved out (I was 2 months old). My dad had contacts and said he was coming here (England) with us for a holiday. But then we got asylum...that was 15 years ago. We were lucky if we stayed any later or got sent back we'd all be dead because my dad was in the Iraqi Communist Party.

And yes you could by alcohol.

[MeTaLhEaD]

There are so many Resistance groups in IRak

from the Islamic Army in Irak IAI "Al aqueda" to small guerrillas tarjeting the oil production

the news are only focusing on yihadis! and forgeting the other guerrillas

[Apka]

Read up:
Preventive war (http://www.globelaw.com/Iraq/Preventive_war_after_iraq.htm)

[kurt]

These urls may be of interest.

http://www.albasrah.net/moqawama/english/i..._resistance.htm (http://www.albasrah.net/moqawama/english/iraqi_resistance.htm)

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7468.htm

The second is merely another link for a video contained on the first website. I however included this url because sorting through the first site is somewhat difficult, and it is an easy to miss video.

[MeTaLhEaD]

nice links komrade kurt!

[WUOrevolt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2006, 12:26 AM

Is there any Iraqi guerilla's fighting the US and Al-Queda, that don't attack civillians atall and don't participate in suicide bombings?

I've never heard of any particular groups, being an Iraqi myself living in England, all the phonecalls I get from family back there say all terrorists are bad they have never heard of genuine resistance fighters.

However, I do believe there must be some genuine freedom fighters, who fight Al-Qaeada and the Americans.


f so are any Left-wing?

The Communist Party of Iraq did support the American invasion. This led to other communists breaking off and starting their own ring of rebels or join another rebel group, it is a fact though that some insurgent groups, no matter whether left or right, support each other in attacks on American convoys and soldiers. I think their main aim is to get the Americans out, they've already made enough mess in Iraq.

I like particularly reading about this guy/s this sniper/s has caused alot of havoc and has been given the name 'Juba'. Rumours say he has been caught, I hope he hasn't he's done a very good job of scaring Americans. Whether he has or hasn't been caught, he is undoubtably a very talented sniper. Here is an article on Juba:

Juba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juba_(sniper))

Noah :) - If you're interested in Iraq's situation at the moment and would like another good source of information, I recommend you buy the book 'Behind the Resistance' by Zaki Chehab, I am currently reading it, it is very informative on the resistance and situation.
So, most Iraqis don't support the insurgents?

[WUOrevolt]

Im pretty sure that none of us would support Insurgents like these ones:
http://www.albasrah.net/images/moqawama/pa...wama_26_jpg.htm (http://www.albasrah.net/images/moqawama/pages/moqawama_26_jpg.htm)

Or these ones using children as soldiers:

http://www.albasrah.net/images/moqawama/im...wama_55_jpg.jpg (http://www.albasrah.net/images/moqawama/images/moqawama_55_jpg.jpg)
or the Jihadists in general.

I do know that there are dissident communists involved in the insurgency, as well as nationalists and around 40 other groups, and some not tied to any group.

I do believe, as it was said in Inside the Resistance by Zaki Chehab, that most Iraqi's in the insurgency do send out a wire around the streets a few days before an attack warning people of a coming attack there on that date.

And P.S. could anyone tell me who this guy is: http://www.albasrah.net/images/moqawama/im...wama_67_jpg.jpg (http://www.albasrah.net/images/moqawama/images/moqawama_67_jpg.jpg)

I have seen pictures of him on posters carried by Iraqis many times but I still dont know who he is.

[dso79]

And P.S. could anyone tell me who this guy is

The guy in the picture is Muqtada as-Sadr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqtada_al-Sadr).

[MeTaLhEaD]

He was leader of an Iraki Resistance group that no longer exists!
his group gave up.. an turn their weapons to the US Army..
An insurgent from that group changed his RPG-7 or something like that for a maxim magazine

[dso79]

Sadr’s Mahdi Army still exists; they’re quite influential in some Shiite areas. We don’t hear much from them these days, since they’ve decided to avoid confrontations with the Americans. I suspect they may still be involved in roadside bombings etc. They did turn over some of their weapons to the US, but those were mostly old weapons they didn’t need.


So, most Iraqis don't support the insurgents?

Polls have shown that a majority wants the foreign troops to leave and believes attacks against them are justified, so I guess most Iraqis do support the insurgency in general.


names of groups would be good too

In recent years several articles have appeared describing the various factions. Some of them might be a bit dated though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4268904.stm
http://www.jihadunspun.com/articles/181220.../ailatir01.html (http://www.jihadunspun.com/articles/18122003-Iraqi-Resistence/ir/ailatir01.html)
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issue...919overview.htm (http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/resist/2004/0919overview.htm)
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops..._insurgency.htm (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_insurgency.htm)

[ComTom]

It is true that most Insurgents are not Foreign Fighters. A mass majority of insurgents are the Shiite Millitia in Southeren Iraq, and Sunni nationalists. I read it in a magazine somewhere about this. The Liberal American media is only showing the far right fundamentalist groups that are bloweing themselves up, which is not true at all.

[WUOrevolt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 04:22 AM
It is true that most Insurgents are not Foreign Fighters. A mass majority of insurgents are the Shiite Millitia in Southeren Iraq, and Sunni nationalists. I read it in a magazine somewhere about this. The Liberal American media is only showing the far right fundamentalist groups that are bloweing themselves up, which is not true at all.
All the media is doing this. Western journalists report from heavily inside the coalition forces, without actually talking to insurgent groups.

[Atlas Swallowed]

Al CIAeda is just a boogey man for the US to have an excuse to wage war on other nations. The British SAS were caught by the Iraqi police not too long ago bringing a explosive rigged car into Baghdad. Ever wonder why it is only usually civillians killed in so called suicide attacks? The Palestinian authority caught a group of Mosaad agents posing as Al Quida. Some of the so called Bin Laden tapes have been proven frauds. 9-11 was never properly investigated and never proven who actually perpatrated it.

I don't know what orginazations are involved in the insurgancy but I do know if someone bombed my friends and familly I would be picking up a gun and fighting those responsible not joining some group.

[MeTaLhEaD]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2006, 03:49 PM


names of groups would be good too

In recent years several articles have appeared describing the various factions. Some of them might be a bit dated though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4268904.stm
http://www.jihadunspun.com/articles/181220.../ailatir01.html (http://www.jihadunspun.com/articles/18122003-Iraqi-Resistence/ir/ailatir01.html)
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issue...919overview.htm (http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/resist/2004/0919overview.htm)
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops..._insurgency.htm (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_insurgency.htm)
here are some "Resistance" Groups

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5253/banner6uc.jpg

Jaish Ansar As-Sunnah :: Army of Tradition (of Prophet) Partisans


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http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/184/aa3ei.png (http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/3128/27iq.jpg)

'Asayeb Al-Iraq Al-Jihadiyyia :: Iraq Jihadi Bands


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http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1571/jami0mg.gif

Al-Jabha Al-Islamiyyah lil Moqawama Al-Iraqiyyah :: The Islamic Front of the Iraqi Resistance (JAMI)
the Jihadi wing is Kataeb Salah u Ad-Deen Al-Ayyoubi :: Salah u Ad-Deen Al-Ayyoubi Brigades

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http://img494.imageshack.us/img494/640/1920revolutionbrigades0xa.gif

Kataeb Thawrat Al-Eshreen :: 1920 Revolution Brigades
Jihadi wing of Islamic Resistance Movement


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http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8163/iai9fr.jpg

Al-Jaish Al-Islami fil Iraq - Islamic Army in Iraq (IAI)


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http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2342/jaishalmujahideen0og.jpg

Jaish Al-Mujahideen - Army of the Mujahideen


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http://www.tkb.org/documents/Groups/GR4630_Jaish%20al-Taifa%20al-Mansoura.jpg

Jaish At-Taefa Al-Mansoura :: Army of the Victorious Sect

[WUOrevolt]

Originally posted by Atlas [email protected] 23 2006, 04:40 AM
Al CIAeda is just a boogey man for the US to have an excuse to wage war on other nations. The British SAS were caught by the Iraqi police not too long ago bringing a explosive rigged car into Baghdad. Ever wonder why it is only usually civillians killed in so called suicide attacks? The Palestinian authority caught a group of Mosaad agents posing as Al Quida. Some of the so called Bin Laden tapes have been proven frauds. 9-11 was never properly investigated and never proven who actually perpatrated it.

I don't know what orginazations are involved in the insurgancy but I do know if someone bombed my friends and familly I would be picking up a gun and fighting those responsible not joining some group.
Do you have any sources for these? Not that I am saying I don't believe you, I just want sources.

[Atlas Swallowed]

Here is an article pertaining to the SAS in Iraq with some links to support the info in the article.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...&articleId=1024 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=AKL20050930&articleId=1024)

[Atlas Swallowed]

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/palestinia...eda_poseurs.htm (http://www.propagandamatrix.com/palestinians_arrest_al_qaeda_poseurs.htm)

Mosaad forming Al Quida cell in Palestine. Picture is of arrest of fake Al Quida cell.

[Atlas Swallowed]

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/9_11_facts.html

One of many sites dealing with official 9-11 story lacking evidence.

[WUOrevolt]

Thanks Atlas Swallowed.