Political Bands today

[FidelCastro]

political bands have become part of the "Been there" group. Rage did it well but now we have bands like Greenday and My Chem (that ghost song) trying to be political but more often than not, all we get is Bush bashing anti-Iraq crap. Rage was doing political shit long before Bush and even when he got in power they didn't just bash him all day. Greenday has to be the worst attempt in the world at being left.

[The Grey Blur]

Two words for you:

Leftover Crack

[redchrisfalling]

I only have one word...Indie (in the unlikely an disturbing event that you live under a rock thats short for independant, as in independant music labels) Seriously there are some awesome bands out there if your willing to look and wait 6-8 weeks for special delivery.

P.S. i don't mean to sound degradeing or insulting but some people have never heard the word indie out side of bad Harrison Ford movies.

[ThePrincePoetik]

eminem used 2 be political with songs like;

way i am
white america
square dance
mosh

!

ps- indie music is hypocritical and mono-toned.

[farleft]

RATM are overrated

There is only one left-wing band that are worth listening to, The Clash.

[commiecrusader]

Rise Against - A brilliant modern political band.

[Ian]

Indie sucks so fucking hard.

[commiecrusader]

A bit like you Ian lol. Indie rocks. How can you say the Strokes, Babyshambles, The Libertines, Ordinary Boys, Arctic Monkeys or Arcade Fire suck?

[Iroquois Xavier]

The Libertines sucked when they had Pete Doherty.now they dont. Arctic Monkeys rule! i like Kasabian, they are a bit left wing. Indie rules. Punk rules. Hip Hop rules. Garage sucks. Adios amigos!

[Ian]

the strokes are terrible. and how the fuck are they indie? they are on a major. Libertines were better with Doherty I reckon.

[Iroquois Xavier]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2006, 04:13 AM
Libertines were better with Doherty I reckon.
They would be a bit crap if they had been better with a crackhead as a vocalist. :)

[commiecrusader]

I don't think the Libs actually exist any more do they? They tried and failed without Pete, hence Pete has Babyshambles, and Karl (the other singer) has started his own band, although I don't know the name of them.

And the Strokes were Indie before they were on a major label, and the fact they're on a major, doesn't stop their genre of music being Indie-style.

[Kittie Rose]

I think music has a lot to do with why the world is so crappy. Before music took a real stance against popular society and make people question what was put on their plate. Now it's all commercialised rubbish. What happened to punk, goth rock, and song writers like Bob Dylan?

Music has been a driving force for independance for decades. Where are we without it?

Rage, PLEASE reform, we need you now more than ever...

[Tormented by Treachery]

Amen to that. We need someone like Rage right now.

farleft, I'm pretty sure you happen to be narrow-minded and ignorant. Not judging you, but I don't think you can limit a whole movement to 1 band. Especially when Rage can identify with a lot more people.

By the way, does it do much good to bash other people's music? "such-and-such SUCKS!" will do no good but to divide us.

[Iroquois Xavier]

I agree it should be down to the individuals taste. i love all kinds of music :)

[Iroquois Xavier]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 09:46 PM
Greenday has to be the worst attempt in the world at being left.
Are you mad? 16 years, 9 attempts to overthrow the american government. millions of fans worldwide. pretty lame excuse for a left wing band eh?! :rolleyes:

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by Iroquois [email protected] 19 2006, 02:44 PM
9 attempts to overthrow the american government
:lol: I can just picture that

Billy Joe: We, the People's Army Of Greenday shall overthrow our beurgeois masters and rule over a land of milk and honey! Vive La Revolution!

Fan: (asks nervously ) Will there be crappy pop-punk?

Billy Joe: You'll require surgery to avoid it!

Everybody cheers

That drummer who nobody knows his name: Can I go back to posing and alluding to being a homosexual?

Bassist who nobody knows his name either: Ooooh, risqué!

[Zero]

Wow... am I the only skank here?

It just dawned on me that you prolly will be confused by that statement... :o *makes easier to spot*

[gilhyle]

From the glorious heights of your perfect unions of political correctness and aesthetic success, you can look down at me listening with pleasure to Green Days excellant live album.....and I could care less that they are posers, when the rhythm is that tight and the voice gets it so right (And I dont care that its overdubed either !)

RATM ? - well, the best posers are the most sincere and RATM never quite learned all the lessons the Clash taught about posing, but they learnt a few of them. They almost made it to being fun with the Stock Exchange Vid.

Eminem's Mosh, just before the election with the original video; that WAS politics.

[Commie Rat]

Eminem is as mainstream as you can get.

[Graham_Pogo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 08:54 PM
Wow... am I the only skank here?

It just dawned on me that you prolly will be confused by that statement... :o *makes easier to spot*
Pick it up Rudie! :D

Against All Authority (awesome political ska-core)

[Angry Young Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 09:46 PM
My Chem (that ghost song) trying to be political
"the ghost of you" is not political. you saw the vid before hearing the song. my first interpretation was that it was a personal account of bereavement, as "3 cheers..." was dedicated to 2 peoples' memories. i have both their albums and not one of their songs can be interpreted politically.

[cccpcommie]

RATM was pro democracy..why try to make fun of them?

[commiecrusader]

Originally posted by Commie [email protected] 20 2006, 01:20 PM
Eminem is as mainstream as you can get.
Doesn't mean he can't be political. In fact the more mainstream that leftist ideas get, in whatever form, the better it is for our movement.

[KC]

Now it's all commercialised rubbish. What happened to punk, goth rock, and song writers like Bob Dylan?

It's there. You're just not looking for it hard enough, or in the right places.



By the way, does it do much good to bash other people's music? "such-and-such SUCKS!" will do no good but to divide us.

So what? If I think your music sucks then I'm going to tell you. If differing music tastes are going to divide us then we have a lot more problems to worry about than politics.

[redchrisfalling]

You're not alone Zero Ska is fucking awesome, have you checked out Satori. There a realy good carabian jazz ska mix out of California they just released there first album with Asian man records, definatly worth a listen.

[LA GUERRA OLVIDADA]

I don't even listen to non-political music for the most part.. What I listen to mostly or lately is..

Immortal Technique (every day pretty much, got all his albums)
Diabolic
Anti-Flag
Dead Prez
The Unseen
Akir
Outerspace

mostly underground hip-hop or punk.

[DISTURBEDrbl911]

Many of System of a Down's songs are very political and the band members take part in many political rallies, it is unfortunate however that everyone discovered Chop Suey and Aerials.

[Sir Hotbod Handsomeface]

Some of my fave leftist bands would be Iskra, Nasum, Kreator, Oi Polloi, Skitsystem, lots of grindcore/crust/punk stuff :)

[Fawkes]

I like eminem, he's an amazing rapper. He does have some political songs, but he is far from being a Far-Left artist. Look at his house.

[Marion]

Surprised there's been no mention of The (International) Noise Conspiracy. Very political and in the Autonomist Marxist traditon. One of their CD notes has links to the likes of Wu Ming, Nick Dyer-Witheford, The Commoner, plus an essay on capitalism!

[emma_goldman]

There's plenty of political bands that do a WONDERFUL job today.

A case in point: Propagandhi.

I love them.

:D

[Taiga]

There is a good Russian political band named Eshelon.
They are cool.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2006, 09:31 AM
I don't think the Libs actually exist any more do they? They tried and failed without Pete, hence Pete has Babyshambles, and Karl (the other singer) has started his own band, although I don't know the name of them.

And the Strokes were Indie before they were on a major label, and the fact they're on a major, doesn't stop their genre of music being Indie-style.
The band is Dirty Pretty Things, and they are much better than the Babyshambles, who are shit.

As for "indie" it is an obsolite term in its origional context. It no longer refers to the specific of not being on a major label, but it rather has become to mean a band which has an alternative non-mainstream sound. Especially since you get a lot of supposedly 'indie' record labels whci hare actually owned by a major record label.


they are on a major.

The Strokes are considered indie because of their sound and also because they released a fair bit of material, especially singles in the UK, on Rough Trade, which is one of the more famous 'Indie' record labels.

People who say 'indie' is shit are ignorant, because while it has become its own genre, it is still probably to most diverse 'genre' in rock music. You get 'indie' bands which have elements of every other type of rock music or indeed music in general.

[Matty_UK]

I love indie music....c'mon, you can't say Sigur Ros aren't great? What about !!!, are they not incredible? Broken Social Scene? Patrick Wolf? Muse? Primal Scream? Bjork? White Stripes? Beck? Cooper Temple Clause? If you can't find something you like in them if you give the time to listen to some albums then you're just being narrow minded to be honest.

And Hope of the States, an indie band, are pretty political.... Primal Scream are definitely bona fide libertarian socialists and occasionally have a political song but the lyrics are usually pretty shit;

Primal Scream-Bomb The Pentagon

Pay your taxes serve your time
all your money where does it go?
school, prison, hospital, floor
government funding, relative science
genetically engineered ultraviolence...

bomb, bomb, bomb the Pentagon (repeated many,many times)

[sav]

A friend gave me a copy of Sick Of It All's 'Death To Tyrants', pretty political messages in there, for example 'Uprising Nation':

'yes! it's right feel indignation
stand and be heard - uprising nation
seize control from the undeserving
let's make our move - uprising nation

all of the elite and the biggest money
use fear to make us strangers in our country
media is locked by the deepest pockets
these immoral plots have got to be. got to be. got to be
stopped

foolish thoughts of rapture in the government
shouldn't be supported or even entertained
foolish thoughts of rapture can only create
an imminent disaster that we all have to face

it's disappointing to see another war
like we didn't lear from all our mistakes before
it's disappointing - the gullible mob
this is not a land of revolution anymore

dead to tyrants. dead to tyrants. send them straight to hell

yes! it's right feel indignation
stand and be heard - uprising nation
seize control from the undeserving
let's make our move - uprising nation
yes it's right. yes it's right
all this frustration
stand and be heard - uprising nation
don't be blind. don't be blind
don't defend their selfish lies
rise up. rise up. uprising nation
rise up'

Another good political HC band is Paint It Black ( <3 <3 <3)

[Prowler]

Here u´ll get some of my music, most from KOB Records and Mad Butcher:

The Prowler, really good Oi&#33; band from canada.

Los Fastidios, pretty famous italian streetpunk.

Heros n Zeros, streetpunk from holland at it´s top, awesome lyrics.

Scrapy, really good ska.

Immortal Technique, awesome rapper with tracks as "the cause of death", "dance with the devil" and "bin laden", really good lyrics.

Dead Prez, as was mentioned above.

Angelic Upstarts, really good english band with my favorite right now "anti nazi"

You can download most of these artists from:

http://www.madbutcher.de/MP3.55.0.html

[homeo_apathy]

anyone into politi-punk/ska/metal should check out leftover crack and choking victim if u havent alreay..best band ever

[Rollo]

If I have to sit through another arctic monkeys song I&#39;m going to kill myself.
Also if you read some ok KMFDM&#39;s lyrics they are pretty damn political. Good music too.

[RedFlagDawn]

sex pistels
rage against the machine
bad religion
tool
proper-gahndi
anti-flag
a perfect circle

all phanominal political bands

[Just Dave]

RATM were just a bit of a cliche really, &#39;Fuck You I Won&#39;t Do What You Tell Me&#39;? It&#39;s hardly Wilfred Owen is it?

I can&#39;t belive none of you have mentioned The Manics, self proffesed socialists, who have written many a political song (If You Tolerate This, Motown Junk, Of Walking Abortion), dedicated awards to Arthur Scargill, and (I think) were the first band to play in Cuba.

Also, what about Billy Bragg? He&#39;s written loads of classic political songs aswell.

[RedFlagDawn]

rage may be cliche but music has the ability to touch every genre of people. rage were one of the bands that first got me interested in polotics, bands which make kids think in an unorthadox direction have my vote whatever genre they are

[Just Dave]

I agree with that. They did inspire a lot of people to hate the government.

Also dont forget Bob Marley, he&#39;s dead political aswell.

[RedFlagDawn]

marley and rage couldn&#39;t be more diffrent, but they both aided the creation of a generation that did their research, that over threw indoctrination and educated themselves. the problem occurs when greenday and my chemical shitpants trivialise the political statements of other bands by comercialising on anti goverment statements that mean nothing &#39;i don&#39;t want to be an american idiot&#39; you are, go hang your self with an electrical choard

[Just Dave]

I agree. You can hardly call yourself a left wing musician when you are a millionaire. Greenday themselves probably aren&#39;t left wing, their probably just cashing in on an unpopular president.

I think what the problem is that there isn&#39;t really any high profile class problem that inspires political bands, not in the same way as Thatcher did, what we&#39;ve got is a foreign problem, in the Iraq war. And whilst it might piss off a lot of people, it wont effect them directly, unless you are related to a soldier, in the same way as Vietnam did due to the draft.

[which doctor]

I&#39; surprised no one has said International (Noise) Conspiracy yet. They are a pretty good band with situationist lyrics.



Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 02:20 PM
As for "indie" it is an obsolite term in its origional context. It no longer refers to the specific of not being on a major label, but it rather has become to mean a band which has an alternative non-mainstream sound. Especially since you get a lot of supposedly &#39;indie&#39; record labels whci hare actually owned by a major record label.

People who say &#39;indie&#39; is shit are ignorant, because while it has become its own genre, it is still probably to most diverse &#39;genre&#39; in rock music. You get &#39;indie&#39; bands which have elements of every other type of rock music or indeed music in general.
The word indie does not describe a sound. It describes a label, a sort of status of the band. Many people think indie is a sound, but that&#39;s only because they don&#39;t really know what indie means.

Indie rock however, does have a sound. But that&#39;s also indie hip-hop, and many other various indie genres.

[RedFlagDawn]

a bit of flogging molly never goes a miss, it may be ira but that doesnt change its revolutionary feel

[RevMARKSman]

Originally posted by Fist of [email protected] 9 2006, 05:41 PM
I&#39; surprised no one has said International (Noise) Conspiracy yet. They are a pretty good band with situationist lyrics..
Smash it Up is probably one of their best songs. In fact it&#39;s the only one I&#39;ve heard of. Yet another reason why we want Radio Rebelde back up...

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 11:21 PM
a bit of flogging molly never goes a miss, it may be ira but that doesnt change its revolutionary feel
This post make no sense in sooooo many ways.
1) Flogging Molly aren&#39;t "IRA".
2) Flogging Molly aren&#39;t really even very political and certainly not revolutionary.
3) The IRA was a revolutionary political organization so no need for the "but".

[Zero]

Yeah, I can&#39;t remember any really revolutionary lyrics for Flogging Molly (doesn&#39;t make them a bad band, I love their music.)

But the Dropkick Murphys, heh. I remember them saying something like "I&#39;m a communist, not a terrorist." in one of their songs. Can&#39;t remember which one though.

[RedFlagDawn]

flogging molly are clearly ira (raise whats left of the flag for me, may the living be dead in our wake, the rare ould times), and they wernt fighting for comunist/anarchist revolution, which is why the but is there,

Five hundred years like Gelignite
Have blown us all to hell
What savior rests while on his cross we die
Forgotten freedom burns
Has the Shepard led his lambs astray
to the bigot and the gun

Must it take a life for hateful eyes
To glisten once again

i saw them live and the clearly yelled, for the good ole&#39; boys who gave their lives for the old country

so to be fair, fuck you

[Vendetta]

Originally posted by MonicaTTmed+Aug 9 2006, 11:59 PM--> (MonicaTTmed @ Aug 9 2006, 11:59 PM)
Fist of [email protected] 9 2006, 05:41 PM
I&#39; surprised no one has said International (Noise) Conspiracy yet. They are a pretty good band with situationist lyrics..
Smash it Up is probably one of their best songs. In fact it&#39;s the only one I&#39;ve heard of. Yet another reason why we want Radio Rebelde back up... [/b]
Guns For Everyone is also a good song IMO.

[LeftxWingxScum]

The Movement (Denmark, Mod/Powerpop, socialist)
The Redskins (England, Soul/Rock, socialist)
Loikaemie (Germany, oi, anti-fascist)
Scrapy (Germany, ska, anti-fascist)
Jeneuesse Apatride (Montreal, punk, RASH)
Union Made (Montreal, hardcore)
Puntas de Acero (Argentina, oi)
Son of Nun (Baltimore, hip-hop, socialist)
Cranked Up, Violent Society (Philadelphia, punk)
No Respect (Germany, ska, anarchist)
Freiboiter (Germany, oi, anti-fascist)
Stage Bottles (Germany, ska-oi, anti-fascist)
Brigada Flores Magon (France, oi, RASH)
The Coup (LA, hip-hop, leftist)

[Red Heretic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 07:31 PM
all we get is Bush bashing anti-Iraq crap
Excuse me? That stuff is really progressive.

[chebol]

DropKick Murphy&#39;s said what?????? Was that before or after they tried to beat up The International Noise Conspiracy for being anti-Iraq war??? :blink:

I draw y&#39;alls attention to this:
http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=53650

[BurnTheOliveTree]

System Of A Down toe the line between politics and regular music a lot.

Like with that song, Bring Your Own Bombs.

"Why don&#39;t presidents fight the war/Why do they always send the poor"

-Alex

[Just Dave]

The Pouges have some left wing songs

[Invader Zim]

The word indie does not describe a sound. It describes a label, a sort of status of the band. Many people think indie is a sound, but that&#39;s only because they don&#39;t really know what indie means.

Well, real &#39;indie&#39; is a band or artist who is not on one of the big four record labels. but that is bullshit, because argueably a band is &#39;no longer&#39; indie because they released say one album on Sony, while they released 10 on say Rough Trade or Echo. Then you have classic indie record labels who still carry experimental bands, but have been bought out by a major label.

The &#39;technical&#39; definition of indie is out dated and to be honest just plain in correct. indie, like punk, has come to represent a sound, that sound differs from genre to genre but it is definable. It also represents an attitude.

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2006, 08:09 PM
flogging molly are clearly ira (raise whats left of the flag for me, may the living be dead in our wake, the rare ould times), and they wernt fighting for comunist/anarchist revolution, which is why the but is there,
...

i saw them live and the clearly yelled, for the good ole&#39; boys who gave their lives for the old country

so to be fair, fuck you
I won&#39;t deny that they have a few songs that are obviously talking about the situation in the north however that doesn&#39;t make them IRA. Hell Sir Paul Wanker McCartney wrote a song "Give Ireland back to the Irish" which was actually banned in Britain. That doesn&#39;t make his music "IRA music" as you seem to think of Flogging Molly&#39;s music.

Now there are plenty of bands that could be considered "IRA music":
Athenrye
Irish Brigade
Wolfe Tones
Shebeen
Summerfly
Eire Og
Gary Og
Men of No Property

I could send you some if you are interested.

That&#39;s off the top of my head, there&#39;s tons more. Do a search on some of these bands then compare their music to Flogging Molly and you&#39;ll see what I mean. And again they may have some political songs, even Green Day does, but they aren&#39;t a political or revolutionary band.

[Maynard]

DropKick Murphy&#39;s said what?????? Was that before or after they tried to beat up The International Noise Conspiracy for being anti-Iraq war???
When did this happen?
I was always under the impression that they were somewhat leftist, it&#39;d be disgraceful if they did.

[T Man]

KMFDM are very political. They&#39;re an Industrial/Electronica/Metal group from Germany that send a lot of Socialist and Anarchist messages in their music.

[Just Dave]

On their website they had a a picture of a swastika being smashed or put in the bin or something like that; their singer is an anti nazi activist

[Zero]

Whoa, no way. Dropkick Murphys wouldn&#39;t do that. Thats crazy. Listen to their song &#39;Workers Song&#39;.

Shit. If they did thats pretty fuckin petty.

[RoaR3000]

Hey there...I was just reading over this thread,and i noticed there was some "heated" back and forth between those who like,and those who don&#39;t like R.A.T.M and question there "credability" ect...But eather way,i know that Zack has been doing some live shows with a live mexican traditional band,singing in español...But more to the point of what i came here too say...Last weekend i had the most wonderfull time in my life,i have waited over 8yrs to see,The Coup...And i ended up running into Bootz Riley on the streetz a few hours before the show,and had the chance to talk to him for about 15min...And so i just thought with all these crazie people wishfully thinking/hoping for rage to come back,don&#39;t worry your selves so much...If you can just open your mind a tiny bit,i would expect you to be VERY happy with what bootz told me...Tom Morello and him are starting an official band together,called,Street Sweepers...So weather you hate r.a.t.m or you love r.a.t.m i think we should ALLL be greatfull for this coming together of two great guyz :-)...

[RoaR3000]

By the way...I guess the tour is done now,but if you ever see the coup out in tour i TOTALLY suggest you get your azz out there&#33;&#33;&#33;...That was THEEE best 12&#036; i have EVER spent for a show in my LYFE,hands down&#33; ;-)...They had a full live band,so it was very electric and bangin&#39;,and i just could not believe HOW MUCH they just gave,and gave,and gave...there was 3 encore&#39;s,they played for 2hours,after there 2 openers just played for 2hrs as well...And this was the 53rd date into there pretty much non stop tour... Its hard to find that much heart and drive anywhere,in anything these dayz...

[Invader Zim]

RoaR3000

How old are you?

[Zeitgeist_]

man i wish we could some real political bands from back in the 60-70&#39;s like the MC5 or Fela Kuti...that dude is so awesome and i suggest that if you havent heard of Fela you guys should check him out since he actually was a socialist

[EwokUtopia]

Billy Bragg is still kickin it. There are other more bands with political undertones who are mainly about the music though, problem being none of them are huge big (and therefore dont get to most of the masses) because no record label will sign them on and support them because they advocate a system that has no use for the exploitational musical leviathans that are Sony and EMI and Virgin and what have you. A Silver Mount Zion is a good post rock band with political motifs.

The hip-hop scene has alot of good political artists- Immortal Technique, Non Phixion, Brand Nubian, DAM, et cetera...

[kaaos_af]

Why do people still do music related topics? Music is the one topic that everyone universally disagrees on.

[which doctor]

Godspeed You&#33; Black Emperor

and

A Silver Mt. Zion

they are both anarchist post-rock bands, they do share a few members though

Some of the good political bands

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2006, 07:03 PM
Why do people still do music related topics? Music is the one topic that everyone universally disagrees on.
Maybe because this is a music forum?

[chebol]

Whoa, no way. Dropkick Murphys wouldn&#39;t do that. Thats crazy. Listen to their song &#39;Workers Song&#39;.

Shit. If they did thats pretty fuckin petty.

They did. October 2002, Sydney&#39;s Livid Festival. Saw and heard it with my own eyes, both on stage, and out the back where they actually went after them.

Fuckwits.

[Ian]

Worker&#39;s song is a Dick Gaughan song originally.

Dropkick Murphys are just some yanks who wish they were Irish and who hang out with Skrewdriver.

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2006, 06:00 AM
Worker&#39;s song is a Dick Gaughan song originally.

Dropkick Murphys are just some yanks who wish they were Irish and who hang out with Skrewdriver.
Dick Gaughan does the berst version I&#39;ve ever heard on his "Handful of Earth" album. If you don&#39;t know who Dick Gaughan is then you are really missing out.

The Worker&#39;s Song however was written by Ed Pickford

As for the Dropkicks. I was trying to put on a show one time many years back and they were one of the bands that I tried to book. They sent me a contract rider which covered all the things they would require to do a show. It explicitly stated that no nazis or white power types be allowed into the gig. I never did get them for the show too much &#036;&#036;&#036; needed up front. However they later did a show in the area and at least a few people were thrown out for expressing racist beliefs, a friend of mine was there, she told me about it.

All of that said I do find them to be somewhat conservative, they are Boston Irish-Americans after all. This is the same sort of conservative vein that you find in some non-racist skins, you&#39;ll often see american and or british flags on their jackets and no doubt in other countries you&#39;ll see them with their national flags.

[LeftxWingxScum]

Hang out with Skrewdriver? Give me a break...
I may not agree with everything DKM says or does and I havent shown much interest in them for the past few years but dont throw out baseless accusations, especially considering Ian Stuart was long dead before DKM formed and most of the other members have not been heard from in quite some time.

[Ian]

Obviously Ian Stuart is dead.

Frenzal Rhomb played a show with them once and were shocked when they went backstage to find the Dropkick Murphy&#39;s drinking beers and hanging with the remnants of that scumbag band. Lindsay from Frenzal has talked about it a few times.

(My mistake on Dick Gaughan celtopunk)

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Originally posted by Carolina Communist+Aug 10 2006, 10:44 PM--> (Carolina Communist @ Aug 10 2006, 10:44 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 11:59 PM

Fist of [email protected] 9 2006, 05:41 PM
I&#39; surprised no one has said International (Noise) Conspiracy yet. They are a pretty good band with situationist lyrics..
Smash it Up is probably one of their best songs. In fact it&#39;s the only one I&#39;ve heard of. Yet another reason why we want Radio Rebelde back up...
Guns For Everyone is also a good song IMO. [/b]
Communist Moon is brilliant.

[liberationjunky]

The (International) Noise Conspiracy

The same singer and protest lyrics with some harder music is:
The Refused

Also, System Of A Down brings up alot of grest issues
I suggested there older stuff, there self-titled album or maybe the album "toxicity"

[Days of Rage]

Today, myriad "political" bands exist. Many bands jumped on the anti-Bush "bandwagon" in recent years; it&#39;s become "in," perhaps, to be "liberal." Most "political" bands propagate generic (apparent) frippery. However, there are a few bands whom I actually respect politically and would give certain consideration to the political ideas thereof. Coming to mind first is Propagandhi. They&#39;re politics has become quite focused over the years and they are one of the few bands who I can completely trust to be genuine when they espouse a belief or ideal. Another such band is Bad Religion, though their political commentary is more fleeting and, when made, is usually more general commentary and not anything especially profound. Dead Kennedys (not the contemporary pseudo-DK; the Jello-led DK) was certainly a good political band. Jello&#39;s political commentary is intelligent and funny and he is another person who I consider to be entirely genuine. (his spoken word albums are also quite good, IMO) Against Me&#33; in their early days as well, though they seem to have shifted away from their past ideals now. Bands such as Anti-Flag are perhaps "good" political bands, but I&#39;m unsure. I can&#39;t quite discern whether many are sincere, and some of them just piss me off, anyway.

I think it&#39;s fine, and encouragable, for people to be made aware of political issues by bands they like, but it is dangerous when people take bands&#39; commentary as dogma and refrain from forming their own (educated, hopefully) opinions on issues.

Edit: And how could I have forgotten Strike Anywhere?

[Ghost Mouse]

bands like Defiance, Ohio and the rest of the Plan-it-x records catalog have always kept a nice mix of singing DIY and anarchist ideals along with free and easy songs about riding bikes and enjoying life. While the music world seems to be swarming with fake political bands jumping on the 7th grade hate of George W. Bush, these bands are as real as it comes. www.plan-it-x.com, czech it.

[LeftxWingxScum]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2006, 07:18 PM
Obviously Ian Stuart is dead.

Frenzal Rhomb played a show with them once and were shocked when they went backstage to find the Dropkick Murphy&#39;s drinking beers and hanging with the remnants of that scumbag band. Lindsay from Frenzal has talked about it a few times.

(My mistake on Dick Gaughan celtopunk)
The members that quit when Ian turned to NF or the sad pricks who started the racist version of Skrewdriver?

[RoaR3000]

*Invader Zim* ... "RoaR3000 How old are you?" ...Due to the fakt i like The Coup or R.A.T.M or any other band...your only question is of age?...Hmmm :ph34r:
...Im 27...Not that important i don&#39;t think...

[homeo_apathy]

if no-one&#39;s said propagandhi yet......propagandhi

[ItalianCommie]

Well the only radical leftist bands I know about in the AngloSaxon world are System of a Down, Rage Against the Machine, Refused, Audioslave and Tool(maybe even Fear Factory and Judas Priest?).
In Italy we get LOADS of radical leftist bands and authors&#33; :) :)
Here&#39;s a (very)small selection of them...
-Modena City Ramblers
-Banda Bassotti
-Pugni Chiusi
-Linea 77
-99 Posse
-Demetrio Stratos
-Bandabardò
-Delta V
-Africa Unite
-Caparezza
-Tre Allegri Ragazzi Morti
-Los Fastidios
-Moravagine
-Fabrizio de Andrè
-and Many more...

[Delirium]

GRIME if your into hiphop

[The Grey Blur]

Grime sucks big wobbly willies

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 06:13 PM
Well the only radical leftist bands I know about in the AngloSaxon world are System of a Down, Rage Against the Machine, Refused, Audioslave and Tool(maybe even Fear Factory and Judas Priest?).

In Italy we get LOADS of radical leftist bands and authors&#33; :) :)
Here&#39;s a (very)small selection of them...
-Modena City Ramblers
-Banda Bassotti
-Pugni Chiusi
-Linea 77
-99 Posse
-Demetrio Stratos
-Bandabardò
-Delta V
-Africa Unite
-Caparezza
-Tre Allegri Ragazzi Morti
-Los Fastidios
-Moravagine
-Fabrizio de Andrè
-and Many more...
Judas Priest?????&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; I can&#39;t say I&#39;m familiar with all of their music and certainly nothing that they&#39;ve done in the past 15 years but I really can&#39;t think of anything remotely political except MAYBE "Breakin the Law" and even then...

As for the Italian bands that you mentioned I know three of them Banda Bassotti, Los Fastidios and Modena City Ramblers are all good bands. I rarely know what the hell they are saying though.

[liberationjunky]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 01:53 PM
From the glorious heights of your perfect unions of political correctness and aesthetic success, you can look down at me listening with pleasure to Green Days excellant live album.....and I could care less that they are posers, when the rhythm is that tight and the voice gets it so right (And I dont care that its overdubed either &#33;)

RATM ? - well, the best posers are the most sincere and RATM never quite learned all the lessons the Clash taught about posing, but they learnt a few of them. They almost made it to being fun with the Stock Exchange Vid.

Eminem&#39;s Mosh, just before the election with the original video; that WAS politics.
First Greendays a pretty bad band. Not original, too popy, and just simple and boring.

Rage Against the Machines are deffently alot better of a band then greenday. They aren&#39;t one of my favorites or anything but i still respect their music and their messages.

And last Eminem, he does has some songs with good messages and a few that are really original but overall hes just sold out from his original music and shes still not one of the greatest hip hop artists. Although, I do like the message on "Mosh" so I guess I&#39;ll give you that it&#39;s a good video.

[Invader Zim]

you can look down at me listening with pleasure to Green Days excellant live album

Which one, if its the &#39;Bullett in a Bible&#39;, I was there when that was made.



Rage Against the Machines are deffently alot better of a band then greenday.

Thats shit, RATM are fucking awful, where as Greenday have some good songs. They aren&#39;t no Manics or Cranberries, but they aren&#39;t bad.

[homeo_apathy]

i&#39;d say greenday are better than RATM however they&#39;ve gotten in to all the mtv crap, which is shit , but overall propagandhi is the best...greenday and ratm don&#39;t even compare

[Comeback Kid]

The only good politcal punk band on a major label is Anti-flag. end of story
Greenday are shit, hating America and President Bush on its own is by no means progressive, and making songs about it because its the cool thing to do nowdays is even worse.

Oh yeah and Hardcore pownz all of you.

[Just Dave]

Greenday hate Bush and the republicans whilst driving expensive cars and living in mansions

[FreedomWithin]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 11:17 AM
Pick it up Rudie&#33; :D

Against All Authority (awesome political ska-core)
Yea, I love Against All Authority&#33;

I was hopin to see them while they were on tour a while ago

but I didn&#39;t <_<

oh well
they are really fucking good